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Subversive of What? (1948)

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Ask HN: Will LLM API costs be negligible in a year?

1•changisaac•2h ago
Hi HN. We’re managing costs at my startup and by far our largest spend is on calls to Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. We’ve considered things like spinning up our own open source model but decided it’s not worth it considering we don’t even have PMF yet.

Optimistically though, I see that token prices to LLMs have been going down a lot in the past few years. Do you think if this continues that it’ll eventually become a negligible expense? Or do you think we will forever be gouged by these foundation model companies? (: Much like how cloud computing has went (AWS, GCP, etc.)

Comments

ben_w•2h ago
Define "negligible".

You need to know how much LLM output you need to get your product working, before you even know what you're hoping for regarding a target cost per million tokens. When you do get PMF, can some of the work be offloaded to a smaller and cheaper model? Can you determine this division of labour yet?

Consider also that "computer" used to be a job title, that since then the cost of doing computations has reduced by a factor of at least 1e14, and yet that you're only asking this question at all because you're still compute limited.

changisaac•2h ago
> and yet that you're only asking this question at all because you're still compute limited.

Very good point.

musbemus•2h ago
If they do start to become unsustainable you might see more companies moving to a BYOK or usage-based billing model. If they do that, I don't know if the use cases for AI would justify the cost for consumers (but perhaps so for businesses). There's been a ton of build out of data centers so I do think the cost reduction we've seen so far may extrapolate but at the expense of more performant models. Hard to tell right now though
codingdave•2h ago
At some point AI providers will need to break down profit/token and price accordingly. Right now, they are losing money to gain market share. Also, AI consumers will need to get the expense of AI into their own profit calculations.

Hard to say how it will play out, aside from both sides are going to strive to maximize their own benefit, and time will tell how the actual numbers balance out.

This is one reason why it matters whether or not the AI bubble is all hype. There is a non-trivial chance that once people truly figure out the monetary value of AI's help on their processes and cut out all hype-based use cases... their spending limits to reach that value might not match what the providers need to run the platforms.