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Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

9•leonixyz•1h ago
We are undoubtedly witnessing a rapid decline of Mozilla and its products: the question we should be asking ourselves is: how long before the total collapse? And furthermore: are those Linux users (like me) who are still relying on Firefox for doing their development job ready to abandon it?

Let me list at least three facts to support my thesis:

1) Over the past year, there have been various controversies announcing a radical change in the core values of the Mozilla Foundation

2) After its rewrite (Project Fenix), the Firefox Mobile browser has never regained the completeness it had before, despite the passage of years

3) One of the web extensions developed by Mozilla (and marked as “official”) was recently removed from the store because it violated Mozilla's own add-on policies: this suggests serious internal disputes.

I wonder what is your opinion

[1] https://www.osnews.com/story/141100/mozilla-foundation-lays-off-30-of-its-employees-ends-advocacy-for-open-web-privacy-and-more/

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/111usm9/years_after_fenix_release_of_android_browser/

[3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked-addon/%7B6003eac6-4b07-4aaf-960b-92fa006cd444%7D/3.0.1/

Comments

deafpolygon•1h ago
It’s been dead for several years now: it has nothing to offer besides the Gecko engine, and that they’re not doing great at.

Truth hurts, right?

42lux•1h ago
Netscape 2.0
theandrewbailey•1h ago
(I say this as someone who used Firefox for 20 years and wants to see Firefox succeed.)

Firefox has been dying since the moment Chrome released. Mozilla's recent rebrand as a bunch of activists[0] and the likely halt of Google money (to be default search) means bad things for Firefox, I think. Let me know how that works out for them. I don't think it will matter much in the end, since Firefox has felt like someone's side project to build a Chrome also-ran for a long time.

[0] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-brand-next-era-o... (Firefox was mentioned exactly once in Mozilla's official rebrand announcement, which shows how irrelevant Firefox is to them.)

neuralkoi•1h ago
> how long before the total collapse?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

I've still to see a site where Firefox is not supported. uBlock origin still works well with Firefox.

When I start having issues with those, I'll start looking for a replacement. Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then.

gitprolinux•1h ago
Competition eventually always improves the user experience for everyone. I support innovative, competition, though FF, please support others also. Reciprocate the love.
incomingpain•41m ago
>We are undoubtedly witnessing a rapid decline of Mozilla and its products: the question we should be asking ourselves is: how long before the total collapse?

Why ask this? Tomorrow they could announce huge new funding from Bezos or google announcing cutting off funding. Regardless, it doesnt uninstall software from your machine.

>And furthermore: are those Linux users (like me) who are still relying on Firefox for doing their development job ready to abandon it?

I technically use firefox everyday; but it could be force uninstalled from my computers and id mostly not notice. I cant imagine being so dependent on it.

>I wonder what is your opinion

Hardly needs to be proven that Mozilla has been declining a very long time.

Microsoft never invested in Internet Explorer because of the antitrust charges in the early 2000s.

Opera had ads, firefox basically became a major player by default with nobody contesting them.

Mid to late 2000s, financial crisis era, they became activists for the open web and net neutrality; but after the financial crisis they jumped over to "social justice" which destroyed them.

espeed•35m ago
There needs to be a browser that archives your browser history and pipes a stream of it in real time so that open-source personal AI engines can ingest it and index it. The future of the Web will be built on this. Google may not do it. Firefox could.
Bender•6m ago
Firefox is still working great for me and I am both a Linux and Windows user. The addons I use are still working great. uBlock, NoScript, Canonical, CSS Exfil, ClearURLS, FoxReplace, Temporary Containers, Zoom Page WE. FoxReplaces helps remove IDPol crap from the web. Canonical sometimes helps me see if I am submitting dupes. uBlock and NoScript keep readable sites readable and keep me away from most of the trash sites that depend on ecma-slop just to read some HTML. I could not realistically ask for more.

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