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African Union Endorses Call to Abandoned the Mercator Map

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/world/africa/africa-map-mercator.html
1•simonpure•1m ago•0 comments

The Pursuit of Life Where It Seems Unimaginable

https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-pursuit-of-life-where-it-seems-unimaginable-20250820/
1•pseudolus•1m ago•0 comments

The Covid Vaccine Situation for the Fall Is a Complete Mess

https://kottke.org/25/08/the-covid-vaccine-situation-for-the-fall-is-a-complete-mess
1•ulrischa•4m ago•0 comments

Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first

https://github.com/zedless-editor/zed
2•homebrewer•4m ago•0 comments

I tried to brick my GrapheneOS installation (so you don't have to) (2024) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0AiO0WtuU
1•uyzstvqs•5m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Serverless platform for running voice AI agents

https://blog.livekit.io/deploy-and-scale-agents-on-livekit-cloud/
1•davidz•5m ago•0 comments

Introducing Pixel 10 Pro Fold: Google’s most durable foldable phone

https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-pixel-10-pro-fold/
1•akyuu•7m ago•0 comments

Nostr and Buildbook: Proof-of-Work Portfolios and Cross-Org Code Reviews

5•McLarenF1•8m ago•0 comments

Auto-labeling in Viam can elevate your edge ML project

https://www.viam.com/post/3-ways-auto-labeling-in-viam-can-elevate-your-edge-ml-project
1•mooreds•9m ago•0 comments

Microsoft Post-quantum resilience: building secure foundations

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/08/20/post-quantum-resilience-building-secure-foundations/
1•donutloop•10m ago•0 comments

Even Amazon Just Got Burned by an AI Security Breach

https://www.maybedont.ai/blog/aws-ai-security-breach/
1•mooreds•10m ago•0 comments

Geoffrey Hinton, Nobel Prize in Physics 2024: Banquet Speech [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f5WQAk3dYo
1•marvinborner•10m ago•0 comments

How Can AI ID a Cat? An Illustrated Guide

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-can-ai-id-a-cat-an-illustrated-guide-20250430/
1•sonabinu•15m ago•0 comments

Glasses that make you a viber thinker. Never use your brain again

https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/20/harvard-dropouts-to-launch-always-on-ai-smart-glasses-that-listen-and-record-every-conversation/
2•charlie_zzc•16m ago•0 comments

Health Canada approves Ozempic to reduce kidney deterioration in diabetes

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/health-canada-approves-ozempic-to-reduce-kidney-deterioration-in-people-with-diabetes/
3•amichail•16m ago•0 comments

TurboScribe: Transcribe Audio and Video to Text

https://www.turboscribe.ai/
1•leiferik•17m ago•0 comments

My name is Peter and I'm a Claudoholic

https://steipete.me/posts/just-one-more-prompt
1•amrrs•18m ago•0 comments

How Parents Can Help Kids Use AI Responsibly for Homework

https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/how-parents-can-help-kids-use-ai-responsibly-for-homework/
1•01-_-•19m ago•0 comments

Taking a look at my old Palm IIIx – by Paul Lefebvre

https://www.goto10retro.com/p/taking-a-look-at-my-old-palm-iiix
1•rbanffy•20m ago•0 comments

Apple patches actively exploited zero-day in iOS, macOS

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/20/ios-18-6-2-vulnerability-fix/
2•akyuu•21m ago•0 comments

Working with JSON in ClickHouse

https://clickhouse.com/docs/integrations/clickpipes/mongodb/quickstart
1•saisrirampur•21m ago•0 comments

Zig 0.15.1 Release Notes

https://ziglang.org/download/0.15.1/release-notes.html
8•captainhorst•23m ago•0 comments

Buildings Learn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn
1•tosh•23m ago•1 comments

Met police's facial recognition plans fall foul of European law, says watchdog

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/20/met-police-facial-recognition-plans-fall-foul-of-european-law-says-watchdog-notting-hill-carnival
2•pseudolus•24m ago•0 comments

Lean proof of Fermat's Last Theorem [pdf]

https://imperialcollegelondon.github.io/FLT/blueprint.pdf
2•ljlolel•24m ago•0 comments

ThanAverage

https://thanaverage.xyz/
1•bookofjoe•27m ago•0 comments

AI will create a near-term socioeconomic gap among knowledge workers

https://www.ericdodds.com/blog/ai-will-create-a-near-term-socioeconomic-gap-among-knowledge-workers
3•ericdodds•27m ago•0 comments

The Technical Reason LLMs Fail on Complex Unstructured Data

https://unstract.com/blog/why-llms-struggle-with-unstructured-data/
1•naren87•27m ago•0 comments

High-Performance Network Scanning with AF_XDP

https://phrack.org/issues/72/3_md#scan
3•celesian•27m ago•0 comments

Systemd 259 to Raise Linux System Requirements

https://www.phoronix.com/news/systemd-259-Requirements
4•mikece•29m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Debugging Behind the Iron Curtain (2010)

https://www.jakepoz.com/debugging-behind-the-iron-curtain/
73•indrora•1h ago

Comments

adzm•1h ago
> Possession of personal Geiger counters was restricted by the Soviet government

A tangent, but why was this?

Analemma_•1h ago
I mean, the post itself kinda answers it.
AnimalMuppet•1h ago
Not really.

But the answer that one would conclude is "so that private citizens can't find out all the shady things we're doing with radioactive stuff".

I presume that was the policy even before Chernobyl. The US did not run an entirely clean nuclear program, but the USSR was worse (perhaps because ordinary people in the US could have Geiger counters, and so the powers that be knew that they were less likely to get away with spilling radio emitters).

pinewurst•1h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster
evan_•1h ago
pretty sure this explains it:

> the government plan was to mix the meat from Chernobyl-area cattle with the uncontaminated meat from the rest of the country

I wonder if this was posted now as a result of a report of radioactive shrimp being sold at Wal-Mart:

https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-informatio...

gostsamo•1h ago
there is no problem if nobody knows about it. explain many government decisions both inside and outside the USSR.
y-curious•1h ago
This was news to me too. I did some surface level research and couldn't find any mention of that.

That said, my parents are from the former USSR and just because there isn't a law on the books doesn't mean it wasn't de facto banned.

barbazoo•1h ago
> just because there isn't a law on the books doesn't mean it wasn't de facto banned

Same is true the other way around. Just because someone claims something to have happened, it doesn't mean it actually has. Maybe they were just "impossible" to obtain similar to how a lot of non essential things were hard to obtain in socialist/communist countries at that time.

lb1lf•1h ago
I do not know if this was the rationale, but presumably the powers that be could not see any upside to civilians possessing such equipment - after all, it could be used for purposes like calling the bluff on the official narrative

('During the recent fire at the Chornobyl nuclear power plant, only trace amounts of radioactivity has been detected outside the immediate vicinity...')

or espionage ('Hmmm... I wonder why many of the freight cars coming down the track from the alleged paint factory in East Podunkskij are 100x more radioactive than those from other areas?')

We are, after all, talking about a system which restricted access to photocopiers.

guga42k•1h ago
It wasn't restricted per se. Just it didn't exist or produced as a civil appliance, so you won't be able to buy it. But civil defense kits usually had the counter, so if you really wanted one you probably could get it. My dad got one right after Chernobyl disaster.
potato3732842•1h ago
"restricted by economic circumstance"
cyberax•57m ago
It was not. Moreover, decommissioned Geiger counters from bomb shelters were available. It's more fair to say that Geiger counters were not sold on the open market because they were considered to be specialized equipment.

The USSR was strictly controlling radio transmitters and survey equipment but not regular measurement devices.

mlyle•1h ago
Bullshit. There is no way that living things are releasing enough ionizing radiation to interfere with a computer, especially an older one--

attenuated both by the rest of their flesh, the building's walls, the computer's chassis, and at least several feet of free space/inverse square.

y-curious•1h ago
You're right. This and the "banned Geiger counters" are both implausible.

Shame, I already sent this to my coworkers. Time to retract this cool story.

reillyse•1h ago
but don't you see, Communism is so bad that it changes the laws of fundamental physics! But of course you are right, this is a total nonsense story but it is interesting to reflect on why somebody would feel compelled to tell such a lie and spread such propaganda. Also interesting to reflect on what the capitalist analog of this story might be - do we trust that American food corporations would never knowingly ship unhealthy meat?
krapp•53m ago
>do we trust that American food corporations would never knowingly ship unhealthy meat?

We know for a fact that many American businesses knowingly allow faulty and dangerous products on the market (see the Ford Pinto,) and that American food corporations have allow tainted meat onto the market.

But for some reason we don't fault capitalism for that the way we would fault communism for this, if it were true. If anything, the most likely reaction this happening in the US would be to deregulate industries so capitalism could capitalize even harder.

flohofwoe•48m ago
Calm down Igor, it's probably just a tall tale the seniors told the juniors and the juniors took it in as the truth.

Also didn't you have sarcastic Chornobyl jokes in the 80s if you lived anywhere near East or Central Europe? We certainly did have a lot of them in East Germany.

sillywabbit•1h ago
BASHIR: Out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?

GARAK: My dear Doctor, they're all true.

BASHIR: Even the lies?

GARAK: Especially the lies.

croemer•58m ago
If I'm reading [1] correctly then the SM-1800 was a clone of Intel-8080A, not PDP-11.

[1]: page 2, line starting with K580 of https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86R00995R0005011...

gary_0•50m ago
It's possible--the extremely high radiation at Chornobyl definitely interfered with electronic equipment at the disaster site--but I would think if cargo that radioactive was being casually parked at a normal train station, it would have immediately obvious health effects on anyone nearby. And if the cows were that radioactive, they wouldn't need to be slaughtered, they would already be rotting meat: Sverdlovsk is about a day away from Chornobyl, and presumably the cows would have been exposed for a while before transport, so there was no way they could have survived a level of contamination high enough that they were affecting nearby computers. And how did they get that radioactive, were they eating those graphite chunks?

The Soviets were profoundly reckless but if this nuclear cow scenario were true it would more likely be a story about a bunch of very sick people and very dead cows at a train station, not a story about a glitchy computer.

However, it is more plausible that the cows were still worryingly radioactive, and the problem with the computer was coincidentally due to something else.

croemer•47m ago
Chernobyl food contamination was mostly Cs-137 which emits Gamma rays. But Gamma rays aren't the type of radiation well suited to flip bits. To reliably flip bits, the cows would have to contain so much Cs-137 that they'd die within a day or so.

Story is likely made up.

ACS_Solver•29m ago
Yes, the story is definitely false. I looked into some details the first time I saw it on HN, seemed strange then, and it cannot be true. Radiation from the disaster could, and did, mess with electronics, but close to the disaster area. Most contamination is with alpha-decay elements, and alpha rays aren't going to make it from inside a train to a computer inside a building by the tracks. And yes, any living creature radioactive enough to affect electronics would be rapidly and painfully dying.

It's a funny story, but the physics is impossible, and there's several historically implausible details as well, so I'm comfortable saying it's made up.

xenonite•1h ago
Original post: https://www.jakepoz.com/debugging-behind-the-iron-curtain/
dang•1h ago
Ah thanks! We've changed to that from https://beza1e1.tuxen.de/lore/crash_cows.html now.

Submitters: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

imzadi•1h ago
Company antivirus blocked this page and said it contains malware
dang•1h ago
We've since changed the URL (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44964232)
jannyfer•59m ago
My company blocked the new URL as "games" but the old link works.
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time wasting activity detected, deducting estimated cost from salary BEEP
dang•1h ago
Related. Others?

Debugging Behind the Iron Curtain (2010) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41586836 - Sept 2024 (21 comments)

Debugging Behind the Iron Curtain - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24208014 - Aug 2020 (1 comment)

Debugging Behind the Iron Curtain (2010) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16628877 - March 2018 (19 comments)

vzaliva•55m ago
I was living in Kyiv at the time of the accident, and later I worked for the Ministry of Chernobyl (a special government ministry created to deal with the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster). I assisted groups of international researchers in analysing data on the consequences of the accident, including radioactive contamination distribution through food chains.

This article is complete rubbish. Everything was tightly measured and controlled. The radiation levels required to trigger memory bits (ferrite memory!) in a building next to the train station, through the walls and metal panels enclosing computer blocks and at such a distance, would probably make a cow glow in the dark :) Geiger counters weren’t restricted - they just weren’t sold to the general public. But somehow, after Chernobyl, every one of my friends managed to procure one (I had three). Even the final part about "filling in immigration papers with any country" is implausible. It wasn’t possible to simply emigrate from the Soviet Union to any country. There was a limited Jewish emigration path, but it was far from easy.