attenuated both by the rest of their flesh, the building's walls, the computer's chassis, and at least several feet of free space/inverse square.
Shame, I already sent this to my coworkers. Time to retract this cool story.
We know for a fact that many American businesses knowingly allow faulty and dangerous products on the market (see the Ford Pinto,) and that American food corporations have allow tainted meat onto the market.
But for some reason we don't fault capitalism for that the way we would fault communism for this, if it were true. If anything, the most likely reaction this happening in the US would be to deregulate industries so capitalism could capitalize even harder.
Also didn't you have sarcastic Chornobyl jokes in the 80s if you lived anywhere near East or Central Europe? We certainly did have a lot of them in East Germany.
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BASHIR: Even the lies?
GARAK: Especially the lies.
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The Soviets were profoundly reckless but if this nuclear cow scenario were true it would more likely be a story about a bunch of very sick people and very dead cows at a train station, not a story about a glitchy computer.
However, it is more plausible that the cows were still worryingly radioactive, and the problem with the computer was coincidentally due to something else.
Story is likely made up.
It's a funny story, but the physics is impossible, and there's several historically implausible details as well, so I'm comfortable saying it's made up.
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This article is complete rubbish. Everything was tightly measured and controlled. The radiation levels required to trigger memory bits (ferrite memory!) in a building next to the train station, through the walls and metal panels enclosing computer blocks and at such a distance, would probably make a cow glow in the dark :) Geiger counters weren’t restricted - they just weren’t sold to the general public. But somehow, after Chernobyl, every one of my friends managed to procure one (I had three). Even the final part about "filling in immigration papers with any country" is implausible. It wasn’t possible to simply emigrate from the Soviet Union to any country. There was a limited Jewish emigration path, but it was far from easy.
adzm•1h ago
A tangent, but why was this?
Analemma_•1h ago
AnimalMuppet•1h ago
But the answer that one would conclude is "so that private citizens can't find out all the shady things we're doing with radioactive stuff".
I presume that was the policy even before Chernobyl. The US did not run an entirely clean nuclear program, but the USSR was worse (perhaps because ordinary people in the US could have Geiger counters, and so the powers that be knew that they were less likely to get away with spilling radio emitters).
pinewurst•1h ago
evan_•1h ago
> the government plan was to mix the meat from Chernobyl-area cattle with the uncontaminated meat from the rest of the country
I wonder if this was posted now as a result of a report of radioactive shrimp being sold at Wal-Mart:
https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-informatio...
gostsamo•1h ago
y-curious•1h ago
That said, my parents are from the former USSR and just because there isn't a law on the books doesn't mean it wasn't de facto banned.
barbazoo•1h ago
Same is true the other way around. Just because someone claims something to have happened, it doesn't mean it actually has. Maybe they were just "impossible" to obtain similar to how a lot of non essential things were hard to obtain in socialist/communist countries at that time.
lb1lf•1h ago
('During the recent fire at the Chornobyl nuclear power plant, only trace amounts of radioactivity has been detected outside the immediate vicinity...')
or espionage ('Hmmm... I wonder why many of the freight cars coming down the track from the alleged paint factory in East Podunkskij are 100x more radioactive than those from other areas?')
We are, after all, talking about a system which restricted access to photocopiers.
guga42k•1h ago
potato3732842•1h ago
cyberax•57m ago
The USSR was strictly controlling radio transmitters and survey equipment but not regular measurement devices.