Administration will review all 55M visa holders for deportable violations

https://apnews.com/article/trump-visas-deportations-068ad6cd5724e7248577f17592327ca4

30•anigbrowl•2h ago

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andsoitis•2h ago

Nothing really to see here. Normal course of business, except maybe that reviewing all 55m systematically is gonna take a while with all the database joins you will have to do across disparate systems.

anigbrowl•1h ago

Sure, f you trust the administration to rely on objective standards rather than making arbitrary and capricious decisions at scale. Looking at social media, I see a lot of people (including GOP county chairs, example below) saying things like 'deport them all, let them reapply for re-entry,' which kinda proves the argument that it was never about illegal immigration in the first place.

https://x.com/BoFrenchTX/status/1958611053119775213

stevenwoo•1h ago

It's certainly to be some sort of political litmus test with a quick perusal of social media for anything other than rabid Trump support along with a test for darker tone of skin or country of origin that is out of favor, to bulk up their failure to kick out enough migrants (not coming close to their stated goals of 1000s per day) through the means they have used so far with fake justification, ticky tacky legal and paperwork issues used to justify deportation.

immibis•1h ago

Whether or not the person has ever attended an anti-Israel protest is an objective standard that is not arbitrary. There are lots of bad things to say, but it's not arbitrary or unobjective.

slt2021•47m ago

if it is not arbitrary, as you claim, surely it must be encoded in law and history of past precedents, right ?

Israeli people need to read the 1st Amendment that we have in the US

anigbrowl•41m ago

The 'arbitrary and capricious' part (a legal term of art) is in saying things like attending a protest constitute grounds for deportation absent any published rules or guidance to this effect. While statute law gives wide discretion to the Secretary of State and Attorney-General in immigration matters, there's still an obligation for transparency and process, which is why there's a whole infrastructure set up for contestation, appeals and so on. You cannot just start issuing orders of removal based on, say, whether people like waffles.

As a side note, Israel isn't a US state the last time I looked. I doubt that a blanket ban on political expression could survive a first amendment challenge.

_fs•1h ago

You say that as if Palantir does not already have all this information ready for AI analysis today.

ux266478•1h ago

Or that the NSA doesn't have it all centralized, tagged and sorted.

aiauthoritydev•1h ago

This is not normal course of business at all. This is probably a wave of capricious decision making to "meet quota" because they are not able to find and catch illegal immigrants to make news.

lajetl•1h ago

They're going to do a few keyword searches for things "Gaza" and "universal healthcare" and try to mass-deport anyone who used those words on social media. And if no one tries to stop them, then it will happen. Habeas Corpus is gone.

slt2021•1h ago

this is done to deport all pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist visa holders, with the help of Palantir.

Social media posts have been scrubbed, list of people have been prepared, just a matter of cross-checking whether they are non-citizens and can be deported

cpncrunch•1h ago

https://amnesty.ca/human-rights-news/palantir-babel-street-s...

aiauthoritydev•1h ago

Well, the Israeli child abusing officer has left the country.

cyanydeez•1h ago

I'm sure there's more. The type of people who clamor for power often do so for the ability to do amoral things.

It's unsuprising theres a mix of nazis and israelis at the helm of America's "self interest" and there's criminals, child molestors, rapists constantly being squeezed out.

xnx•1h ago

Does this include H-1B fraud?

cyanydeez•1h ago

Anything that implicates businesses, unles clearly run by dirty communists, will be ignored.

Herring•1h ago

Naturalized citizens are up next.

hodgehog11•1h ago

How many "mistakes" are going to be made in this process, I wonder? A colleague of mine had his student's visa status suddenly revoked a few months ago. Fortunately, the student's lawyers successfully argued in court that there were no grounds for revocation. It still isn't clear why any of it happened.

readthenotes1•42m ago

55M visa holders ???

I had no idea it was that many.

I thought 18M undocumented was a high %age!

342M people in the US. 16% visa holders

I wonder how that compares to other countries?

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/foreign-born/about....

anigbrowl•31m ago

Historically this isn't exceptional, and is arguably a reversion ot hte mean following the disruption of a WW2 and its aftershocks.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/imm...

I thought 18M undocumented was a high %age!

Seems inflated. Reliable estimates run around 2/3 of that. Higher numbers always seem anchored only by handwavey 'there must be more because reasons', which is why you regularly see people claiming sums of 20m, 30m, 40m. The current president has a habit of picking arbitrary numbers based on his feelings, but that doesn't sem a very reliable system to me.

https://ohss.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-06/2024_0418_o...

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