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Saquon Is Playing for Equity

https://www.readtheprofile.com/p/saquon-barkley-investment-portfolio
40•polinapompliano•2h ago

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dkurty•2h ago
Love hearing about professional athletes taking their finances seriously. Based on the article, seems like he's taken the same approach as Rob Gronkowski--investing all of his NFL contract, living only on endorsements.
NickC25•1h ago
Easier to do when you're an extremely relevant person in your sport.

Not all NFL athletes have a shot at getting any endorsements at all. In fact, most don't.

Be a star player or famous role player on a very successful team, that's way different than some backup lineman who is out of the league by the time their rookie contract ends.

American football is by and far the worst culprit - in all the other big or semi-relevant american sports - baseball, basketball, hockey, etc, you can make a decent living playing overseas. Not huge, but decent enough. Can't do that with football.

dkurty•1h ago
100% agree with you. Median salary is $800k, which is amazing, but if you only get 2-3 years out of it, need to index the take-home and live like a college student to make it worth anything after compounding.
NickC25•1h ago
But that's also before tax. A lot of these guys play in high tax states. Then they have to pay agent fees.

Then the expenses related to their jobs - food, training, etc. Shit ain't cheap. And before you ask - no, not all NFL teams really provide a ton to their players. My local team, Miami, has the best nutrition and food staff in the league. Players love it. Other teams don't provide much besides Gatorade on game days or other shitty protein snacks provided by league sponsors. Forget about full nutritious meals. Then you've got some teams with a great strength and conditioning staff. Other teams simply don't, which leaves players to find their own private solutions. This all adds up.

AaronLasseigne•1h ago
Even worse, they have to pay taxes in every state they play in because they're working in that state. It's called the jock tax.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_tax

wubrr•1h ago
The median NFL salary is like 850k/year, and the average is ~3million/year.

Seems like a lot for playing with a ball, while producing exactly zero in practical value (other than advertising and distraction, which is a net negative for society arguably).

gdbsjjdn•1h ago
People who play professional sports basically sacrifice the first 20 years of their life for a lotto ticket to get, on average, 2-4 years of playing time. There's a high risk of debilitating injury even if they're successful. As other people have pointed out that salary is before you consider any professional fees for agents, etc.

I do also have to remark on the irony of someone on the "250k a year to type prompts into a AI to get the wrong answer" website complaining that athletes are overpaid and don't contribute anything to society

gooosle•24m ago
'sacrifice' what exactly lol?

Going the athlete route is generally easier and requires less time investment than going the academic route.

greatwave1•55m ago
Saquon's no-look hurdle alone produced more practical value than 95% of ZIRP-era startups
cko•53m ago
I'd argue that the reason for people to do any sort of productive work is to be able to spend it on such "distractions" (as you put it) like Taylor Swift concerts and sports events.

Think about these fantasy sports gambling apps, your coworkers who distract themselves from the drudgery of work by discussing sports, the financial institutions that take a transaction fee from money being passed around, the infinite scroll of content on social media, all because of athletes.

Not me, I spend nothing and invest it all, but all these investments are basically leveraging what society truly wants, among which is leisure and art.

Functionally, as a curmudgeon, my value to the economy is near zero.

gooosle•26m ago
> Think about these fantasy sports gambling apps, your coworkers who distract themselves from the drudgery of work by discussing sports, the financial institutions that take a transaction fee from money being passed around, the infinite scroll of content on social media, all because of athletes.

I don't see how you can claim gambling, and pointless discussion about some arbitrary game you (they) don't even play are positive. Financial transactions for the sake of financial transactions are also completely pointless.

dkurty•24m ago
lol speaking my language--spend nothing and invest all. I literally have holey socks and a linoleum floor from the 1970s that's starting to fray but make sure to get my BTC purchase in after every paycheck.
greedo•1h ago
Being a generational running back with a huge NFL contract makes it much easier to invest like this than the average back who only lasts a couple of years in the NFL. Plus Barkley is also the beneficiary of plenty of endorsements. When the average player is out of the league in 3 years, often due to injury, it's not unexpected that they may have financial difficulties. Most of the degrees they get aren't worth much, and while the minimum salary looks enticing, the taxes eat it up quickly, as do all the people clamoring for a cut.
NickC25•1h ago
This x1000000.

He's a generational talent who signed a $30 million rookie contract.

I know guys who played in the NFL and they got paid a sliver of that, at best. They are out of the league. 99% of guys who make it aren't Saquon Barkley. Shit, 99% of guys in his position aren't at his level. RBs do not last at the NFL level for very long. There's always some young new hotshot out of the college game who is faster, younger, and not beat up.

The big issue is that most of those guys spent their entire lives to that point to play in the NFL. They didn't challenge themselves in high school or college from an academic standpoint - they focused on football. They took home through that 3 year rookie deal MAYBE $200k-300k total after tax, outside training expenses, agent expenses, etc.

darth_avocado•1h ago
It also always help to have generational wealth before ZIRP pumped up all asset prices to the moon. If I was an average Joe with $100k to invest in 2017, I’d be a multimillionaire right now. This is based purely on the public investments I made with the little money I had. If I had access to private markets like startups, it would be worth even more.
Esophagus4•47m ago
I… am skeptical of your numbers.

$100k invested in 2017 turning into $2m in 2025 implies a 46% annualized return over 8 years.

Those numbers are not realistic from even the world’s top hedge funds.

That begs the question of what magic well of oil you struck to yield those numbers? The only public investment I can see is TSLA. And I would not recommend an average Joe YOLO $100k into TSLA.

blonder•23m ago
Bitcoin was in the thousands for most of 2017, that as a booster to a tech heavy portfolio would have done extremely well.
Aurornis•20m ago
> If I was an average Joe with $100k to invest in 2017, I’d be a multimillionaire right now.

You would not 20X your investment in 8 years unless you got extremely lucky and avoided losing anything in risky bets that did not work out.

Many novice investors have gotten lucky on a trade or two and imagined what their return would be if they had invested 10X or 100X more. However, when you have 10X or 100X more capital on the line, you don't play the same game.

Aurornis•22m ago
Being a famous sports figure in general makes it easier to invest in these assets. Many VCs will bend over backwards to have a famous sports personality involved in their firm or investments.

Even a non-famous person with ~$20mm to invest (somewhere around the after-tax amount of his rookie contract) would not get a seat at the table at these VC firms.

dumbfounder•1h ago
He did a commercial and helps sales for Ramp and he only has $500k into them? That is either the deal of the century for Ramp or the reporting is inaccurate.
parpfish•1h ago
i feel like it'd be great if players could get comped with equity in their franchises.

for an aging star that's on the downhill side of their prime, it'd help with salary caps and letting them build new stars around them. and the franchise doesn't have to worry about shipping off a beloved player once they get too expensive.

besides, lets player take ownership of the teams that they're building just feels right.

dfxm12•1h ago
NFLPA has to fight tooth and nail to get 48% of the league revenue.

Owners don't have to give up anything. Thanks to media deals and taking advantage of city-owned stadiums (with ridiculous parking fees and nacho prices, etc.), the teams print money no matter how good or bad they are, even if they let a beloved player go.

htrp•1h ago
>startups in his portfolio include Anthropic (currently valued at $183 billion), Anduril ($30.5 billion), Ramp ($22.5 billion), Cognition ($9.8 billion), Neuralink ($9 billion), Strike (~$1 billion), and Polymarket (~$1 billion). He’s also a limited partner in funds including Founders Fund, Thrive Capital, Silver Point Capital, and Multicoin Capital.

Reminds me of Steve Young

NickC25•1h ago
Steve was very lucky in the sense that every part of his life contributed to him being involved in the world of finance.

He was born and raised in Greenwich, CT. Hedge fund capital of the world. Went to school at BYU which is run by the Mormon ~Private Equity group~ Church. Played his pro career in Silicon Valley.

The stars were aligned from the start.

Aurornis•15m ago
> He’s also a limited partner in funds including Founders Fund, Thrive Capital, Silver Point Capital, and Multicoin Capital.

Dividing the entire rookie contract amount across so many investments and so many funds means relatively small investments in those funds.

No way any non-famous-athlete individual would be able to LP in those funds without athletic stardom attached. It's a selling point for those LPs to say he's part of their funds and they get to rub shoulders with a professional athlete.

jmull•1h ago
Some guys have all the talent, apparently... seems like he took his $30M rookie deal and turned himself into a sharp investor. May make a lot more doing that than playing football.
dfxm12•1h ago
Be wary that the article speaks of "bets", but then really only talks about the hits.

Starting with $30MM, and having who knows how many millions in endorsement deals to fall back on, makes it easier to absorb the misses. It's not necessarily about talent at this level...

ojbyrne•1h ago
FWIW, he makes about $10 million annually in endorsements. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/saquon-barkley-contract-s...
blinding-streak•1h ago
This Eagles fan didn't expect to see Saquon on HN today!

Fly Eagles Fly!

nemothekid•1h ago
I think the angle of the story is compelling for being different: look at this athlete investing in startups.

What I'm more interested in is how is he getting dealflow:

>The high-growth startups in his portfolio include Anthropic (currently valued at $183 billion), Anduril ($30.5 billion), Ramp ($22.5 billion), Cognition ($9.8 billion), Neuralink ($9 billion), Strike (~$1 billion), and Polymarket (~$1 billion). He’s also a limited partner in funds including Founders Fund, Thrive Capital, Silver Point Capital, and Multicoin Capital.

If he has sizable investments in these companies at an early-ish stage then one has to ask: is this guy nostradamus? Or is he doing the classic early stage playbook and investing everywhere? Is there someone else making the bets?

It's really easy to look in hindsight at this guy and said he did a good job with his money, but I'd argue for any angel that wasn't already tapped into the network, this would be an impressive portfolio. It's not like Anthropic was hurting for investors. And if it is the case that Anthropic said "why not, I'd love to have a check from 2024 superbowl champion Saquan Barkley", then it's not really repeatable.

I have plenty of friends who made quite a bit of money from previous exits and have also read Zero to One, and their angel portfolio isn't as lucrative.

hahaxdxd123•23m ago
> What I'm more interested in is how is he getting dealflow:

Because he's Saquon Barkley. Other than your lead + maybe 1 or 2 others, everyone else is pretty interchangable. At least Saquon is interesting.

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