Not really the key point, but personally as a reader I have always disliked Chekhov's Gun. I like to believe in the world that is being described to me, as if it were real. In the real world, things just exist, they don't necessarily have purpose. So a gun can be described just because it's there, it's interesting, it catches the protagonist's eye, etc.
If I know the author follows Chekhov's Gun, then now I know something is going to happen with the gun, taking away surprise and suspense and possibility, and making the world feel much less real.
sonicrocketman•5mo ago
Thanks for reading the source post!
This is a valid concern, I think. However I'd point out that extraneous detail and world building are not the same. If information serves the purpose of explaining the world then by definition it isn't extraneous. Though adding information certainly reaches a point of diminishing returns at some point.
I think the point of Chekhov's gun is more that unless you can justify the inclusion of the info, then it is extraneous and extraneous info should be removed.
Well yeah but that's all literary devices and stories would be more realistic but also worse without them. Authors are telegraphing you information constantly over the course of any work. It's what makes twists satisfying rather than arbitrary. You can't subvert an expectation without setting one up.
stevage•5mo ago
Yeah, it's clearly a spectrum. For my taste, Chekhov's Gun is too far to the highly-structured and purposeful end of the spectrum. Pure descriptive realism would be too far to the other.
stevage•5mo ago
If I know the author follows Chekhov's Gun, then now I know something is going to happen with the gun, taking away surprise and suspense and possibility, and making the world feel much less real.
sonicrocketman•5mo ago
This is a valid concern, I think. However I'd point out that extraneous detail and world building are not the same. If information serves the purpose of explaining the world then by definition it isn't extraneous. Though adding information certainly reaches a point of diminishing returns at some point.
I think the point of Chekhov's gun is more that unless you can justify the inclusion of the info, then it is extraneous and extraneous info should be removed.
stevage•5mo ago
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