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Ask HN: In what situations would you want your phone to call you?

1•chetansorted•1m ago•0 comments

Broken $100B dream city becomes refuge for tech utopians

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Slime Mould Electronic Oscillators

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Roman Lead Pipe Inscription

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Lithium and Its Potential Protection from Alzheimer's Disease

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1•mfiguiere•24m ago•1 comments

Zero-knowledge proofs unlock privacy in digital identity

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1•poppypetalmask•25m ago•0 comments

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2•mmphosis•37m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How do handle burnout as a founder

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2•jaypatelani•39m ago•0 comments

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https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.01092
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Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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2•sumit-paul•1h ago•0 comments
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My Vercel v0 weekend: A working app, a happy friend, and a $50 bill

1•ryado•5h ago
I'm an experienced backend engineer; frontend has always been my bottleneck. I've been experimenting with AI tools to bridge this gap, and my recent experience with Vercel v0 was notable.

Fueled by a desire to impress a friend (and some alcohol) last weekend, I built a feature-rich internal app for his business; ~ think a feature-rich time tracker with auth, roles, export, etc. To keep the momentum going, I bypassed the rate limits and spent about $50 on a Pro sub and credits over two days. The result: a working MVP delivered and in use by Monday.

The speed was incredible, not just code generation, but the entire dev-to-deploy cycle. v0 instantly solved the "blank canvas" problem for me.

The sober question now is: was that the best use of $50? The backend I could have built in a similar timeframe, so the value was entirely in accelerating the UI/design for me.

I'm trying to assess the landscape of tools for developers like me. My research so far:

Claude: Intrigued, but pricing is unclear.

Copilot: I use it daily at work for backend, but it feels weak for generating complex, well-designed UI components.

v0 vs. Bolt: v0 felt miles ahead for the initial UI generation.

My question for HN:

For a developer whose main weakness is frontend design, is there anything that truly matches v0's 0-to-1 speed right now? Or is it in a class of its own, and the ~$50 cost for an MVP is simply the new price of admission for this kind of leverage in my case?

I think v0 is an amazing product, but I'm pragmatic about tools. I’ve just learned to treat companies the same way they treat customers: always squeeze the juice, move on when the value drops.

Curious to hear what workflows others have found effective.

Comments

ryado•5h ago
Author here. This really boils down to an ROI question.

On one hand, a $50 cash outlay for a validated MVP that's in the hands of users within 48 hours seems like an incredibly good deal from a business perspective.

On the other, my engineering brain is asking if 90% of the same result could be achieved for $10 (a Copilot sub) and just a few more hours of effort.

I'm especially interested to hear from others who build side projects or MVPs: *How do you evaluate the cost of these 'pay-per-generation' AI tools versus traditional flat-rate subscriptions in your budget?*

bryanrasmussen•4h ago
>On the other, my engineering brain is asking if 90% of the same result could be achieved for $10 (a Copilot sub) and just a few more hours of effort.

my engineering brain is asking:

does "few more hours of effort" mean 2 more hours of effort?

If so do you get paid less than $20 per hour?

If few more hours of effort means more than 2 how many more hours of effort do you think it would have to be for it to be ridiculous for making that effort?

ryado•3h ago
I see what you mean, and had the same thought while I wrote this comment.

Here is the catch, something like copilot is a month subscription.

V0 is pay by usage, and in my small sample size we talking > +$20/day vs $XX / month (20 or 200 idk)

bryanrasmussen•3h ago
sure, but you're still stuck with the fact that with copilot, according to the rules you have put out, you are losing money with each thing you do, assuming you have to do a few hours more each time.

On the other hand do you have the liquidity to do it all with just v0?

For example I don't really have the liquidity right now to do anything other than free tiers.

amacalac•3h ago
$50 to move past your bottleneck? I’d say that’s worth a fortune in ROI if you had:

a) poor design sense; b) poor design engineering (you have good design sense but can’t figure out how to build it); c) taken more than your hourly salary to learn a + b.

Agree with understanding if you could do it cheaper and faster next time, but the rule of 3 usually applies: “good, fast and cheap, pick 2”

It looks like you’re on the right track; pragmatism about specific tools, and their use cases.

Hopefully your friend sees the value in the tool and a big ROI too!