I bet a could get 470 miles out of 75kwh battery under the right conditions with the right vehicle. A Chevy Silverado EV got 1000 miles out of a 200kwh and its a brick.
Saying a battery has range is a nonsensical statement. Tell me how much energy it stores and how much it weighs thats whats important.
Basically the problem is that, once most of the vehicle's weight is battery, adding 5× the battery capacity adds 5× the weight and thus 5× the rolling resistance, so it only increases the range slightly.
LFP has historically been inferior to other lithium-ion chemistries like NMC in gravimetric energy density, so the range of the resulting vehicle is a major consideration.
One funny thing though... the issues have had more to do with volumetric energy capacity than weight. See also tests like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmKf8smvGsA
That's why vehicles like Semi trucks can get by with batteries that are only ~4x bigger than a Silverado EV, weigh 8.5x more, and still manage to also produce higher ranges.
One could in good faith assume it means “install this in a normal light vehicle (sedan?) and you’re likely to get about 470 miles of range when driven under normal conditions”.
That said I agree that range is NOT the best way to measure a battery’s energy storage capacity - definitely not the right unit, it’s like measuring computing capacity in megahertz. Oh wait :)
How so?
> Laptop batteries are overwhelmingly NMC or similar chemistries
Yep, I was not debating that.
I was not trying to imply any particular percentage of laptop batteries are LiFePo4, just that they have existed at all in that field for years now.
There are several laptop manufacturers that are regularly using lifepo4 now.
> LiFePo4 is extremely safe
I would say it is safer than li-ion but still not near as safe as an all-solid-state battery.
Dear battery technology claimant, Thank you for your submission of proposed new revolutionary battery technology.
Your new technology claims to be superior to existing lithium-ion technology is is just around the corner from taking over the world. Unfortunately your technology will likely fail, because:
[ ] it is impractical to manufacture at scale.
[ ] it will be too expensive for users.
[ ] it suffers from too few recharge cycles.
[ ] it is incapable of delivering current at sufficient levels.
[ ] it lacks thermal stability at low or high temperatures.
[ ] it lacks the energy density to make it sufficiently portable.
[ ] it has too short of a lifetime.
[ ] its charge rate is too slow.
[ ] its materials are too toxic.
[ ] it is too likely to catch fire or explode.
[ ] it is too minimal of a step forward for anybody to care.
[ ] this was already done 20 years ago and didn't work then.
[ ] by this time it ships li-ion advances will match it.
[ ] your claims are lies.
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- CATL currently manufactures around 40% of the worlds EV batteries. They know how to scale manufacturing.
- LFP batteries do not catch fire or explode.
- Most of your other comments don't apply either.
You don't need revolutionary batteries (similarly you don't need next generation nuclear plants, ordinary ones create so immense amount of wealth for generations). Batteries improved like 10-15% since early Teslas. Similarly motor/aero/electronics efficiency. Overall 30% gain in range. If right charge infrastructure it's perfectly enough for 99% of passenger cars.
Toyota, for example, is seemingly trying to outdo Musk’s “self driving next year” claims with their own “solid state batteries next year” claims. Toyota have been making these promises for nearly a decade now, and it looks like Musk’s lies will come true before Toyota ever ships a single solid state battery to a customer.
They have even been some next-gen battery products that actually launched and actually got reviewed by “legitimate“ YouTubers, and later turned out to be not as advertised. As far as I’m concerned, it’s all bullshit until it’s in the hands of independent labs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-car-sales-hit-2025-1226...
https://about.bnef.com/insights/clean-transport/global-elect...
https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025
https://web.archive.org/web/20250904191345/https://www.ftpor...
> by this time it ships li-ion advances will match it
But the reason it applies is that this new battery is a li-ion advance so it only has to match itself.
Crazy times we live in when 1000hp+ cars are nothing special anymore.
Here's the primary source:
https://www.catl.com/en/news/6527.html
Some reporter at Electrek gave it a very light polish and put their name on it.
Is the press release this seems based on.
It seems like they might have translated "warranty" as "lifespan" for one model of the battery.
tanseydavid•5mo ago