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1•SMAAART•1m ago•0 comments

Gen Z women now in favour of age-gap relationships – and not for what you think

https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/white-lotus-gez-z-agegap-relationships-b2733659.html
1•prmph•5m ago•1 comments

Devs more worried than ever that generative AI will lower the quality of games

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/devs-are-more-worried-than-ever-that-generative-ai-will-lo...
1•SamoyedFurFluff•6m ago•1 comments

Gewzion

1•gewzion•7m ago•1 comments

Signy: Signed URLs for Small Devices

https://github.com/golioth/signy
1•hasheddan•7m ago•0 comments

Ukraine battle map of Russia's oil system showing to track drone strike impacts

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1967448817902444790
1•robaato•8m ago•0 comments

Figure AI Valued at $39B

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-16/robotics-startup-figure-ai-valued-at-39-billio...
1•chermanowicz•9m ago•1 comments

Infinite Mac: Resource Fork Roundtripping

https://blog.persistent.info/2025/09/infinite-mac-resource-forks.html
1•zdw•9m ago•0 comments

Decoding of carbon and energy metabolism in P. putida for lignin utilization

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-08723-3
1•PaulHoule•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Muky v3 – Added Spotify to my kid-friendly iOS audio player

https://muky.app
2•oliverjanssen•11m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Behavioral assumptions in self driving cars

1•davidajackson•14m ago•0 comments

Interview with Aaron Patterson [audio]

https://podcast.drbragg.dev/episodes/episode-58-aaron-patterson/
1•mooreds•14m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What Comes After AI?

1•OhMeadhbh•15m ago•1 comments

The productivity paradox of AI coding assistants

https://www.cerbos.dev/blog/productivity-paradox-of-ai-coding-assistants
2•chilipepperhott•17m ago•0 comments

Longplay – An app to rediscover your album collection

https://longplay.rocks
1•surprisetalk•18m ago•0 comments

Toronto Based Design Startup

https://d80ep08th.github.io
1•parth_fect•20m ago•1 comments

Serve Markdown files as HTML [with Caddy] (2024)

https://til.jakelazaroff.com/caddy/serve-markdown-files-as-html/
1•indigodaddy•20m ago•0 comments

Palitra: Can AI Keep Secrets ?

https://palitra.ai
1•arakelov•20m ago•1 comments

Is AI-Driven Cybersecurity Mesh Architecture the Next Big Shift in SecOps?

https://www.epam.com/insights/blogs/is-ai-driven-cybersecurity-mesh-architecture-the-next-big-shi...
1•mooreds•21m ago•0 comments

MAIstro – multi-agent framework for medical imaging workflows

https://github.com/eltzanis/mAIstro
1•arbayi•21m ago•0 comments

You Need to Be Bored

https://hbr.org/2025/08/you-need-to-be-bored-heres-why
2•andrewstetsenko•21m ago•0 comments

Heliophysics Data Application Programmer's Interface

https://hapi-server.org
1•thomasjb•22m ago•0 comments

The Work of Magic (2008)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/17/magic-the-real-work
1•thunderbong•24m ago•1 comments

We're launching a new Google app for Windows experiment in Labs

https://blog.google/products/search/google-app-windows-labs/
4•meetpateltech•25m ago•1 comments

Mozilla Firefox 143.0 adds support for Progressive Web Apps

https://www.ghacks.net/2025/09/16/mozilla-firefox-143-0-adds-support-for-progressive-web-apps-cop...
2•speckx•26m ago•0 comments

Java 25 Launch Stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duIceCXObrA
1•theThree•29m ago•0 comments

Vibe-Code your demo video

https://bazaar.it
1•jackos15•30m ago•0 comments

The old SF tech scene is dead. What it's morphing into is more sinister

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/bay-area-tech-scene-dorky-now-terrifying-21042943.php
4•jakemontero24•31m ago•0 comments

1975 Sep 16 MOS Technology samples 6502 at WESCON, here's how they designed it

https://www.EmbeddedRelated.com/showarticle/1453.php
1•jason_s•31m ago•1 comments

Protovalidate Is Now v1.0

https://buf.build/blog/protovalidate-v1
1•AtroxDev•31m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Generative AI is hollowing out entry-level jobs, study finds

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5425555
85•zeuch•2h ago

Comments

zeuch•2h ago
New Harvard's study (62M workers, 285k firms) shows firms adopting generative AI cut junior hiring sharply while continuing to grow senior roles — eroding the bottom rungs of career ladders and reshaping how careers start.
FrustratedMonky•1h ago
In 10 years where do the senior dev's come from? Real question. Seems like with lower entry level jobs now, in 10 years there won't be seniors to hire.
cubefox•1h ago
In 10 years a lot of the senior developers might be cut as well due to strongly improved AI.
candiddevmike•1h ago
I think a large chunk of people are naively assuming exponential growth and no longer needing senior devs in 10 years.
thw_9a83c•1h ago
I suppose the idea is that those junior developers who weren't hired will spend 10 years doing intensive, unpaid self-study so that they can knock on the door as experienced seniors by that time.
planccck•50m ago
Are you serious? How on earth are these people going to eat or pay rent for 10 years? As well, most companies would laugh you out the door if you were applying a senior role without any experience working in the role.
thw_9a83c•46m ago
> Are you serious?

No, I was being sarcastic.

selimthegrim•8m ago
Laugh all you want, for some people it’s more real than you think.
softwaredoug•1h ago
Junior devs eventually will have been brought up with agentic coding, etc. Hopefully whatever the "new way" becomes is how they'll be taught.

Currently part of the problem is the taboo using AI coding in undergrad CS programs. And I don't know the answer. But someone will find the right way to teach new/better ways of working with and without generative AI. It may just become second nature to everyone.

Workaccount2•56m ago
Kids are always the best with technology. The generation in high school right now will be god tier at getting results from LLMs.
swexbe•48m ago
Might have been the case before. But these days, kids are brought up on locked-down content-focused machines (e.g. ipads). They struggle with anything harder than restarting an app.
bopbopbop7•46m ago
How are high school kids that barely know the basics of the topic going to get “god tier” results from LLMs?
hattmall•43m ago
I can see how that would seem logical, but imo the issue with it not following the normal trend is the inconsistency and inaccurate results of LLMs.
dandellion•42m ago
When my little cousin was three and already knew how to use the phone by himself people were claiming he was gonna be a tech wizard and everybody was talking about digital natives. But when he got to high school he didn't know how to turn a computer on. How useful is it to be god tier at getting results from LLMs, if you have zero clue if the result you got is any good?
basscomm•38m ago
Not even a little bit. Where I work we regularly churn through kids just out of college and most of them don't have Clue One how to operate anything on their computer.
neutronicus•27m ago
Yeah, growing up in the 80s or 90s might have had you uniquely well-positioned to be "good with computers", because "the computer that has games and the internet" was (in some sense) the same as "the computer that adults are supposed to use for work".

That's not true anymore in the smart phone / tablet era.

5-10 years ago my wife had a gig working with college kids and back then they were already unable to forward e-mails and didn't really understand the concept of "files" on a computer. They just sent screenshots and sometimes just lost (like, almost literally) some document they had been working on because they couldn't figure out how to open it back up. I can't imagine it has improved.

thw_9a83c•56m ago
While agentic coding can make you productive, it won't teach you to deeply understand the source code, algorithms, or APIs produced by AI. If you can't thoroughly audit any source code created by an AI agent, then you are definitely not a senior developer.
s46dxc5r7tv8•39m ago
This is just not true. I have witnessed people who would have been called dabblers or tinkerers just a few years ago become actual developers by using cursor. They ask a few key questions when they get stuck about engineering best practices and really internalize them. They read the code they are producing and ask the assistant questions about their codebase. They are theorycrafting using AI then implementing and testing. I have witnesses this with my own eyes and as AI has gotten better they have also been getting more knowledgeable. They read the chains of thought and study the outputs. They have become real developers with working programs on their github. AI is a tool that teaches you as it is used if you put in the effort. I understand many folks are 'vibe coding' and not learning a single thing and I don't know if thats the majority or the minorty, but the assertion that all people learn nothing from use of these tools is false.
thw_9a83c•31m ago
You're talking about people who put in a significant non-trivial effort to thoroughly understand the code produced by the AI. For them, AI was just one path to becoming proficient developers. They would have gotten there even before the AI boom. I was not talking about such highly-motivated people.
seanmcdirmid•50m ago
Agentic coding is like leading and instructing a team of a bunch of very dumb but also very smart junior devs. They can follow instructions to the T and have great memory but lack common sense and have no experience. The more experienced and skilled their leadership, the better chance of getting a good result from them, which I don’t think is a good job (yet?) for an entry level human SWE.
Ragnarork•37m ago
> Junior devs eventually will have been brought up with agentic coding

But if they're not hired...?

rs999gti•50m ago
> In 10 years where do the senior dev's come from?

From company interns. Internships won't go away, there will just be less of them. For example, some companies will turn down interns because they do not have the time to train them due to project load.

With AI, now employed developers can be picky on whether or not to take on interns.

throwawayoldie•49m ago
In 10 years, the management (or "leadership" if you like the taste of boot) responsible for doing the cutting will have moved on to something else, with no consequences for them.
neutronicus•31m ago
From the bread line, after they've all been displaced by AI, if you happen to need one for God knows what reason, the CEOs are hoping
ModernMech•29m ago
They will be promoted but they won't have the requisite experience. We'll have people in the highest positions with the usual titles, but they will be severely underqualified. Enshitification will ensue.
rd•15m ago
What was the incentive for companies to train juniors into seniors in the past, post job-hopping era? Curious to know if that incentive has warped in the past two decades or so as someone who's starting their career now.
zeuch•2h ago
If entry-level roles are shrinking, how should companies rethink talent development? Without the traditional “bottom rungs,” how do we grow future seniors if fewer juniors ever get the chance to start?
red-iron-pine•1h ago
presumably this also means the relative value of seniors is now increasing, as the pipeline to replace them is smaller.

its like how the generic "we take anyone" online security degree has poisoned that market -- nothing but hoards of entry level goobers, but no real heavy hitters on the mid-to-high end. put another way, the market is tight but there are still reasonable options for seniors.

then again we live under capitalism

zeuch•1h ago
Agree, increased value and demand for seniors. But how will the market solve the generation of new seniors if juniors are getting less opportunities?

Take the software development sector as example: if we replace junior devs by AI coding agents and put senior devs to review the agent's work, how will we produce more seniors (with wide experience in the sector) if the juniors are not coding anymore?

trzy•59m ago
Who cares? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to finally gatekeep software engineering the way lawyers and finance professionals do with their fields! Enjoy the windfall in 5 years!
candiddevmike•1h ago
When were companies ever thinking about talent development, especially for SWE? We had some loose "mentorship" roles but IME most folks are left to their own devices or just learn by bandwagoning things from reddit.
gota•58m ago
I think open source contributions/projects will still be a way to gain verifiable experience.

Other than that, I guess developing software in some capacity while doing a non-strictly software job - say, in accounting, marketing, healtcare, etc. This might not be a relevant number of people if 'vibe coding' takes hold and the fundamentals are not learned/ignored by these accountants, marketers, healthcare workers, etc.

If that is the case, we'd have a lot of 'informed beginners' with 10+ years of experience tangentially related to software.

Edit: As a result of the above, we might see an un-ironic return to the 'learn to code' mantra in the following years. Perhaps now qualified 'learn to -actually- code'? I'd wager a dollar on that discourse popping up in ~5 years time if the trend of not hiring junior devs continues.

registeredcorn•18m ago
I'm looking forward for the weird inflective trend of "organic" programs, "humane" dev treatment, and software development taking a long time being seen as a mark of quality rather than stagnation or worry. :)

I'm half-joking, but I wouldn't be surprised to see all sorts of counterpoint marketing come into play. Maybe throw in a weird traditional bent to it?

> (Pretentious, douche company): Free-range programming, the way programming was meant to be done; with the human touch!

All-in-all, I already feel severely grossed out any time a business I interact with introduces any kind of LLM chatbot shtick and I have to move away from their services; I could genuinely see people deriving a greater disdain for the fad than there already is.

RodgerTheGreat•56m ago
That's much longer than a quarterly earnings report away, which makes it "somebody else's problem" for the executives pushing these policies. There's no reason to expect these people to have a long-term strategy in mind as long as their short-term strategy gives them a golden parachute.
throwawaysleep•55m ago
That’s a problem years away, so… don’t think about it?
DebtDeflation•28m ago
The plan seems to be to hope that AI will be able to replace the senior ICs in the near future. They're certainly gutting the ranks of management today in a way that presupposes there will be far fewer ICs of all levels to manage soon.
ivape•7m ago
The answer is that engineers are a self selected group and always have been. If you don’t know how to keep up on your and reinvent yourself as necessary, then forget it. No company or school will evolve you to the degree a self directed engineer will do on their own.

If you are complaining about finding a job today, guess what, you’ll be complaining in five years too. The job description literally requires you to be ready for entire paradigm shifts.

capestart•1h ago
This makes me think the conversation around AI and jobs is too focused on total employment, when the real story is how it shifts opportunities within companies. If juniors are getting fewer chances to enter, that could create long-term bottlenecks for talent growth.
lukev•56m ago
It's pretty clear this is happening.

The question is... is this based on existing capability of LLMs to do these jobs? Or are companies doing this on the expectation that AI is advanced enough to pick up the slack?

I have observed a disconnect in which management is typically far more optimistic about AI being capable of performing a specific task than are the workers who currently perform that task.

And to what extent is AI-related job cutting just an excuse for what management would want to do anyway?

0_____0•39m ago
This was close to my first thought as well. I don't think we're far enough along the LLM adoption curve to actually know how it will affect the business case and thus employment long term. In the last couple of years of LLM/AI honeymoon, the changes to accommodate the technology may obscure direct and second order effects.
elevatortrim•38m ago
I do not see anything in this study that accounts for the decline in economic activity. Is it AI replacing the jobs, or is it that companies are not optimistically hiring, which disproportionally impacts entry level jobs?
spacephysics•19m ago
Agree, I think the high cost of full time hires for entry level software jobs (total comp + onboarding + mentoring) vs investing in AI and seeing if that gap can be filled is a far less risky choice at the current economic state.

6-12 months in, the AI bet doesnt pay off, then just stop spending money in it. cancel/dont renew contracts and move some teams around.

For full time entry hires, we typically dont see meaningful positive productivity (their cost is less than what they produce) for 6-8 months. Additionally, entry level takes time away from senior folks reducing their productivity. And if you need to cut payroll cost, its far more complicated, and worse for morale than just cutting AI spend.

So given the above, plus economy seemingly pre-recession (or have been according to some leading indicators) seems best to wait or hire very cautiously for next 6-8 months at least.

smokedetector1•55m ago
Interesting. However just because this is true right now doesn't mean it will be true going forward. Unique to the current moment is that there are simultaneously (1) high interest rates and a challenging economy (2) a narrative that AI adoption should enable cutting junior roles. This could lead to companies that would anyway be doing layoffs choosing to lay off or not hire juniors, and replace with AI adoption.

To really test the implied theory that using AI enables cutting junior hiring, we need to see it in a better economy, in otherwise growing companies, or with some kind of control (though not sure how this would really be possible).

osigurdson•53m ago
What happens when companies refuse to hire, even though there is an obvious need? It has to lead to reduced growth. If the majority of companies do this, I would think it would lead to a severe deflationary cycle.
toomuchtodo•52m ago
They burn out employees until a failure mode is reached.
osigurdson•37m ago
If a few companies do this it is probably fine, but more interesting if most companies do this. It seems that it would be akin to a self inflicted depression with severe deflation.
toomuchtodo•27m ago
From your lips to Blackrock's ears.
PolicyPhantom•53m ago
Generative AI may automate some entry-level tasks, but young professionals are not just “replaceable labor.” They bring growth potential, adaptation, and social learning. Without frameworks to manage AI’s role, we risk undermining the very training grounds that prepare the next generation of experts.
esafak•51m ago
The tragedy of the commons: companies acting in their self interest at the expense of the industry by drying up the workforce pipeline. The next generation will pay, like when America stopped producing hardware.

This is cause for government intervention.

ileonichwiesz•20m ago
It should be, but the government loves AI - incidentally it’s also the one thing currently propping up the economy.
thw_9a83c•49m ago
In the future, there will be two kinds of companies:

  1. Those that encourage people to use AI agents aggressively to increase productivity.
  2. Those that encourage people to use AI agents aggressively to be more productive while still hiring young people.
Which type of company will be more innovative, productive, and successful in the long run?
dayvid•46m ago
Any job that doesn't creatively generate revenue will be systematized and automated as soon as possible. AI agents are just an acceleration factor for this
koakuma-chan•46m ago
I don't understand how you want innovation and productivity in a world with rapidly increasing population. We need less and less people while producing more and more people. Where am I wrong?
thw_9a83c•44m ago
I don't see developed countries to have a "rapidly increasing population" problem.
zdragnar•30m ago
Recently there was a splash in the news about the US death rate projected to exceed the birth rate by 2031.

Many of the largest countries are experiencing similar declines, with fewer and fewer countries maintaining large birth rates.

neutronicus•44m ago
The ones in group 2 that also aggressively prune expensive, complacent seniors might even win in the short run!

Young people are cheap and they love AI!

candiddevmike•43m ago
Source?
gwbas1c•45m ago
Entry-level jobs are also hard to get when there is a hiring slowdown; and in the US there is a hiring slowdown.

Is this a case of "correlation does not imply causation?"

petcat•45m ago
We had some marketing folks give us a company-wide demo of Chat GPT and some other Gen AI tools and showed us how cool it is and how quick they can make stylish and sophisticated pitch decks and marketing materials now.

And the entire time I'm watching this I'm just thinking that they don't realize that they are only demonstrating the tools that are going to replace their own jobs. Kinda sad, really. Demand for soft skills and creatives is going to continue to decline.

Dev jobs too.

johnrob•29m ago
LLMs are good at creating single use documents, like a pitch deck used for one prospective customer (never to be used again). But for long lived documents, on which future work builds atop, the bar is higher and the value of LLMs is more grey.
mingus88•21m ago
I have the opposite expectation actually

In the late 90s you weee considered a prodigy if you understood how to use a search engine. I had so many opportunities simply because I could find and retain information.

So LLMs have solved this. Knowing a framework or being able to create apps is not a marketable skill any longer. What are we supposed to do now?

It’s the soft skills that matter now. Being well liked has always been more important in a job than being the best at it. We all know that engineer who knows they are hot shit but everyone avoids because they are insufferable.

Those marketing people don’t need to spend a week on their deck any longer. They can work the customer relationship now.

Knowing how to iterate with an LLM to give the customer exactly what they need is the valuable skill now.

octo888•16m ago
Experienced that too. They're basically forced to give those demos
bobafett-9902•10m ago
but i guess to me the question is: if you're management, do you expect your workers to do more/work faster (like a TAS in a way)? or do you expect to replace your workers entirely?

I personally think we're still a ways from the latter...

apwell23•43m ago
These studies would be more meaningful if this was a time of economic boom.

Entry-level jobs get "hollowed out" in a stagnant economy regardless of "AI".

AI = not hiring because no new work but spin as a "AI" . Markets are hungry of any utterance of the the word AI from the CEO.

so ridiculous. but we've collectively decided to ignore BS as long as we can scam each other and pray you are not the last one holding the bag.

haijo2•22m ago
Pretty much lol.

You have to somehow have the discipline to avoid getting caught up in the noise until the hype starts to fade away.

Devasta•43m ago
The economic turmoil in the US is hollowing out the entry level jobs, AI is just the cover companies are using. The constant tariff changing means that companies have to be very pessimistic in their long term planning, as any assumptions they make can be turned on their head with no notice.
ivape•42m ago
Another way to look at it is that legacy jobs have no future therefore there is no point bringing in the next generation into a dying system.

Another way to look at it is that hiring is fine, and that the vain entitled generation we all suspected was going to emerge feels that a job should absolutely be available to them, and immediately.

Another way to look at it is that journalism has been dead for quite a while, and writing about the same fear-based topics like “omg hiring apocalypse” is what makes these people predictable money (along with other topics).

Another way to look at it is that we raised a generation of narcissistic parents and children that have been going “omg grades”, “omg good college”, “omg internship”, “omg job” for so long that that these lamentations feel normalized. A healthy dose of stfu was never given to them. Neurotic motherfuckers.

haijo2•21m ago
The second point has some truth to it from what I've been hearing from talking to senior folks, taking on new grads within the finance sector.
shredprez•40m ago
The pessimistic reading is well-represented, so here's another: AI changes the definition of "entry-level", but it doesn't eliminate the class of professional labor that experienced workers would rather not do.

Until AI can do literally everything we can, that class of work will continue to exist, and it'll continue to be handed to the least experienced workers as a way for them to learn, get oriented, and earn access to more interesting problems and/or higher pay while experienced folks rest on their laurels or push the state of the art.

tropicalfruit•39m ago
soon there will be entire new industries of "Bullshit Jobs" to keep the masses occupied

they rather pay people to sit in a room pressing a button every hour than have them loitering around on UBI

either that or in the pod

cryoshon•16m ago
Today they're admitting AI is hollowing out entry-level jobs. The reality is that it can and will replace mid-level and eventually even quite senior jobs.

Why?

It's already doing a lot of the loadbearing work in those mid-level roles too now, it's just a bit awkward for management to admit it. One common current mode of work is people using AI to accomplish their work tasks very quickly, and then loafing a bit more with the extra time. So leaders refrain from hiring, pocket the savings, and keep a tight lid on compensation for those who remain.

At some point they'll probably try to squeeze the workforce for some additional productivity, and cut those who don't deliver it. Note that the "ease" of using AI for work tasks will be a rationale for why additional compensation is not warranted for those who remain.

haijo2•7m ago
Lol this is so far from reality. Where have you actually seen this fella?

Im tired of reading all these claims with no primary evidence to support it.