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How to motivate yourself to do a thing you don't want to do

https://ashleyjanssen.com/how-to-motivate-yourself-to-do-a-thing-you-dont-want-to-do/
118•mooreds•2h ago

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willahmad•1h ago
"I will read it after this 15 min short video"
Y_Y•1h ago
Why would you do a thing you didn't ultimately want to do though?
actionfromafar•1h ago
So you don't become weak and overweight, for instance.
Y_Y•1h ago
If I hadn't wanted to avoid diet and exercise more than I wanted to not be weak and overweight then we wouldn't be here.
stuartjohnson12•1h ago
Who am I but the average weighted sum of my future preferences? Why should the temporal dimension of my preferences allow them to suppress other preferences?
thomastjeffery•1h ago
I find "not weak and overweight" to be the least compelling way to frame it.

There are a lot of positive implications that become obvious when you say you want to be strong and lightweight. While "not weak" is a passive character judgement, "strong" is a constantly available opportunity.

plemer•1h ago
I read this as: how you can motivate yourself to do something you're currently not motivated to do but "ultimately" believe is worth doing.
__turbobrew__•1h ago
Necessity. I don’t want to do my taxes every year and I need to force myself to just sit down and do it.
giancarlostoro•1h ago
Or someone else will force you to sit down for questioning ;)
jon-wood•1h ago
Regrettably I need money in order to eat food.
task331•15m ago
so you do want to do it right, because you want to eat
atoav•1h ago
Many reasons. Maybe not doing that thing will be bad inthe long run. Maybe you want the fruit of doing that thing, but cannot enjoy doing it right now, etc.

A popular example would be sports if you're not very fit. You would obviously have tangible health benefits if you did it, you may look more attractive, you may have more energy both physically and mentally. But since you're a couch potatoe sports is demanding, exhausting and sucks. Would you do more sports it would suck less or you might even find it enjoyable, but you don't and that's where you are.

This puts you in the weird spot of wanting a thing but not wanting to do what would get you there, even if the reasons you don't want to do it would vanish if you did it.

You can only really overcome this mentally, e.g. by priming yourself in certain ways, or by creating situations where you don't have a choice, because others rely on you, etc.

giancarlostoro•1h ago
This isn't that they don't want to do it, they do, but they don't want the effort involved.
what_was_it•48m ago
Yes! This is the real question.

I wrote about this (as a tangent, but anyway) recently. https://asemic-horizon.com/2025/07/28/julian/

TL;DR "akrasia", procrastination etc. are all forms of ambivalence that are not nearly as "psychological" and individual as usually presented. The nausea is in the world itself.

nachox999•41m ago
how to do something when your mind wanna do it because it's rational but your emotions don't because it's painful
task331•14m ago
At the end of the day I don't think there is such a thing. If you do I think deep down you want to do it, otherwise you wouldn't.
amelius•1h ago
We can learn from people who go to church every Sunday.
ebiester•1h ago
I think that's a bit misinformed. Churchgoers get connection to community and most active churchgoers have positive emotional connections to times associated with church.

Now, those who go out of obligation and have negative experiences may agree with you, but church services are some of what I miss most from leaving the religion.

thomastjeffery•1h ago
As someone who used to be in the latter group, I wouldn't call it motivation. More like habitual compliance.

I have many complaints specific to my experience of dragging myself to church, but the experience itself was incredibly neutral.

mallowdram•1h ago
"How words are post-hoc arbitrary retrofits to actual neural thoughts"

A self-help guide about language wholly distinct from thought.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2•47m ago
I have participated in a company-wide meeting not that long ago and as a corporate veteran of sorts, I have never heard such a high amount of new corporate friendly neologisms in such a short amount of time. Corporate bingo would have been over 3 minutes flat. There is a part of me that is amused, because people saying those words clearly did not believe them ( delivery was very flat ), but it does make me question the future of our language.

My initial pet theory was that is going to be more uniform as a result, but now... I am not so certain.

ImPrajyoth•1h ago
You need Drive to get things done. Motivational can only make you start them.
piker•1h ago
I personally draw inspiration from John Carmack. I've understood his approach to be basically just stare at your problem and ignore everything else until you make a little bit of progress. The answer is there.
terabytest•1h ago
Sounds like a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem. My main issue is to even get myself to sit and stare at the work to be done. It has been really frustrating seeing the lengths I go to, consciously or unconsciously, to procrastinate.
koakuma-chan•1h ago
I used to work a non tech office job, one day it became so unbearable, I was literally falling asleep and was no longer able to bring myself to do the job at all, because of how much mental effort was required for even the smallest things. I stood up and quit.
RangerScience•1h ago
What’d you do after that?
koakuma-chan•49m ago
Endured condemnation from others while simultaneously looking for a proper tech job, took me 8 months to find.
ljlolel•46m ago
What was the job?
koakuma-chan•43m ago
Data entry
SoftTalker•21m ago
I once had a job where I would sit in my car in the parking lot for 30 minutes every morning just mustering the will to walk into the office.
siva7•12m ago
You're not alone.
marginalia_nu•45m ago
I think it's mostly about accepting that you are the one in control. The problem of "getting yourself to do something" is poorly formulated, as though some other person was in charge of your actions that you have to convince to do what you want.

This confused conviction is the real problem. There is no other you to convince. The same you that you are bargaining with to do the thing is the same you that's doing the bargaining. You can at any moment just do it.

geeB•1h ago
That is by far the best approach… if you can do it. If your mind already works that way, you might not appreciate how much of a superpower you have.
bobcorponoi•53m ago
That's interesting, I'll have to look into that and give it a try. Seems like a good way to build back up your attention span as well.
emil-lp•51m ago
This is the Procrastination version of Feynman's problem solving technique.

Write down the problem. Think really hard. Write down the solution.

IncreasePosts•10m ago
Carmack also has an insane net worth and has the freedom to pick and choose the problems he stares at, and set the time tables for a solution. I wouldn't suggest this method if you're some random mid-level programmer.
semiinfinitely•1h ago
> The only way I can convince myself to do it is by finding a suitably engaging show I can distract myself with on my phone while I huff and puff.

> Combine the task with something you enjoy. You know what makes cleaning out the garage a lot better? Some good tunes.

This motivational advice is deeply misguided. These are very clear examples of "dopamine stacking". The idea is that by combining a stimulating activity (eg watching show/music) with a motivation-requiring activity (eg working out/cleaning) you can get an initial boost in motivation to accomplish the hard task. It works (initially) because the stimulating task (show/music) is giving you a dopamine increase which feels like motivation to complete the hard task. The problem is that if you repeat this behavior with any consistency, your dopamine system quickly adjusts the high activity-combo level of dopamine as a new baseline. Soon not even the dopamine you get from the combination is sufficient to motivate you to accomplish the task. At this point people often seek another short lived dopamine-increasing stimulus to combine into the mix.

You can see this pattern in people who exercise only with some combination of pre-workout, caffeine, music, phone scrolling.

The off-ramp is learning how to derive dopamine (aka "motivation") from the actual activity itself.

further reading: 1. https://youtu.be/PhBQ4riwDj4?si=n-afP-Rj_k7qfATz

emil-lp•52m ago
> further reading: youtube
shermantanktop•38m ago
turn on subtitles, i guess?
siva7•16m ago
it's more about the source, not the format
SoftTalker•39m ago
The "treat yourself to a donut" suggestion got me. Sure, eat a donut, completely negating the caloric burn of the 30 minutes of aerobics you're motivating/rewarding yourself for.
watters•33m ago
For plenty of already-in-shape people, the calories expended during the exercise are largely incidental, with the goal of exercise being to enhance or maintain some other property of their physical capacity.
IncreasePosts•32m ago
You'll still have improved cardiovascular fitness even if you aren't losing weight.

Any ways, a lot of studies have shown your body has a variety of methods that attempt to counteract excess calories burned, like reduction in non-exercise activity thermogenesis.

Nifty3929•32m ago
I'll disagree slightly, though clearly you are correct that if your goal is to offset calories, then eating a donut negates the benefits of the exercise activity.

My disagreement is that I think exercise should not primarily be about calories - it should be about fitness. And almost all of the fitness gains from exercise persist even if you replace the calories with a donut.

Exercising for 30min and then relacing those spent calories with donuts is FAR better than not exercising and forgoing those extra calories.

stronglikedan•20m ago
that not how it works. that's not how any of this works.

the aerobics build up muscle that will always be burning calories by merely existing. a donut here and there won't make a negligible difference, as long as the weekly aerobic activity level is maintained.

zanellato19•10m ago
Eeeh. Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is. A donut is a lot of exercise and muscle building leads to a small but not sufficient calorie spend. The majority of calorie spend still comes from the organs and general body maintenance
reducesuffering•6m ago
> Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is.

Tell that to all the lean 150 pound / 68kg runners stuffing their faces with high calorie foods all the time.

idle_zealot•34m ago
> The off-ramp is learning how to derive dopamine (aka "motivation") from the actual activity itself

So, just start liking the things you don't like? Sure, ideally that's the solution you want, but it's not exactly actionable advice.

johnfn•20m ago
Really, deeply misguided? It's "deeply misguided" to listen to music while coding? It's deeply misguided to hang out with friends and also eat at a restaurant? It's "deeply misguided" sing while hiking? I find that hard to believe.
IncreasePosts•12m ago
You probably like music and coding, and friends and food, and singing and hiking. OP was talking about blending activities you like with activities you don't like, as a way of getting you to do the thing you don't like.
anonymars•11m ago
I think you deeply misread the comment you're replying to
nerdponx•14m ago
[delayed]
tgv•13m ago
So, where does the evidence come from? I don't buy the explanation, and I can't find any article published by Huberman on dopamine.
bubblyworld•4m ago
I think people use "dopamine" in quite a loose sense to refer to reward centres in the brain and habit formation. You might have better luck digging around those topics.
cjbarber•1h ago
My observation is it's an equation between:

1) reward/incentive/expected good feelings

2) effort/displeasure of doing the thing and the result

One way to increase #1 is to make it more socially involved. If you're working on a project solitarily, start going to events and talking about it with people, or write about it online. Humans are massively socially motivated.

For #2, one way to address this is with emotional processing. Often something is unpleasant because it reminds of something we didn't like from the past. So really digesting those emotions can allow the expected displeasure to fade because we kind of integrate it into our brains/bodies. But the key for this is that it has to be emotional processing, not intellectual processing.

BolexNOLA•1h ago
Don’t forget 3) consequences for not doing it
idiotsecant•5m ago
Yes, in my experience the social part of this is not so much the carrot, but the stick. If I don't do this thing, I will look lazy to this person or this person will be disappointed or inconvenienced, etc.

Probably not a healthy outlook!

thomastjeffery•1h ago
I have spent my entire life frustrated with the reality that none of this advice actually works for me. This is because motivation was never my problem to begin with: my problem is "executive dysfunction", which is very counterproductively titled ADHD.
xyzzy9563•1h ago
Well think of this: if you knew there was $100 million in a dufflebag of gold at the bottom of a pond, would you learn how to put on scuba gear and retrieve it?

Perhaps you don't have compelling enough reasons to do things.

bobcorponoi•47m ago
I have a similar issue, I can find motivation to start something but then it spirals into other things.

For $100 million I would probably just learn to put on the scuba gear but for instance my mind would go to "I should make my own scuba gear". So for a personal project I start on something and decide I need something else, so then I want to make a tool to help me make that thing and so on. I think it's probably related to a shorter attention span so I'm working on that.

thomastjeffery•30m ago
Learn how? Almost definitely.

Actually do it? That's a lot less certain than you would expect.

I would probably start. Since this hypothetical is a pretty simple one-off, I might even manage to generate enough executive functioning to follow through.

What I can tell you for certain is that I am still very excited to work on a custom keyboard project that I started 4 years ago. I have all the parts and equipment readily available at home, and plenty of free time. I have not worked on it at all over the past 4 years.

nashashmi•1h ago
> As you near the end, you can even push yourself a little to wrap it up and get it off your plate.

As a person with ADHD, this struck me. I have an easy time continuing something. But an impossible time starting and finishing something. Obviously I am not mentally healthy. But who is this person who is mentally healthy? And what am I missing to being the same way?

I think it boils down to being yelled at and penalized and being unable to handle this feedback well enough. I don’t know exactly what I am fearing here. It will be an exploration.

> you are both pleased with yourself and a little annoyed that it took you so long to deal with.

I am never pleased at the end of a project. I am blame full why I could not do it before.

WalterSear•38m ago
What you are missing is that estimates of ADHD heritability vary between 60 and 90%.

There's a lots of one can do to overcome and accommodate it, but one of the first steps is to approach neurotypical productivity advice with substantial skepticism: they aren't fighting the fight we are; don't even know that our fight exists.

xyzzy9563•1h ago
The way that works best for me is a 2-step approach:

1. Think about the ultimate goal and why you want to do it. If there isn't a compelling reason, there is no reason to do it, especially if there is short-term pain or annoyance.

2. Take at least one small action towards it per day. This often puts you in the mindset to do more things.

csr86•1h ago
If I remember correctly, a YT video from Andrew Hubermann, talks about rewards and that you should avoid excessive rewards.

It can make the actual work even more painful, because your mind is too focused on the reward, instead of trying to enjoy the hard work itself.

hbarka•56m ago
I understand that these heuristics are completely different for people with ADHD.

Also the role of dopamine cycles has a big effect on proactiveness.

Arch-TK•53m ago
I can do the things that are hard to start but fine to continue. But sometimes you have a very long slog which is hard to start and hard to continue and hard to finish. That's where the difficulty lies.
incomingpain•49m ago
I just spent a couple weeks hyperfocused on solo building a whole new python project from scratch. Motivation is a skill that needs to be trained.

It's a bit counter intuitive, and while your environment needs to be conducive to work. Among the other factors, you dont just gain motivation by having a clean desk.

nachox999•45m ago
"just DO IT!!!"

-Shia LaBeouf

SoftTalker•36m ago
That's what it really boils down to.
everyone•34m ago
Do what u wanna do.

Don't do what u don't wanna do.

..

Or at least try, doing otherwise is crazy right?

jraph•25m ago
If only.
siliconc0w•32m ago
For more intellectual endeavors I find if I'm avoiding working on something it can be because I'm being lazy or just don't like the category of work but often it is a good sign it's not quite the right activity for the moment. It may not be well defined enough, or the highest priority, or doubting it is likely to yield the outcome I want. Time of day matters too, in the morning I feel like doing different things than in the afternoon. I can push through and "just do it" if I have to but often it's worth listening to this feeling and picking a task I am motivated to do instead.
jraph•32m ago
Do something quick and crappy. And let your perfectionism fix it. And... here you are gotten started!

It can be a single word or a instruction that crashes your program at the location that needs to be worked on.

Leave a syntax error for getting started quick tomorrow.

Write down what needs to be done before it leaves your head (but don't make it perfectly structured and clean, a few words on a paper on your desk will do).

edit: For instance, you'd possibly want to fix the missing "n" in this comment. Make this feeling a tool against your procrastination.

edit2: ah, and get the hell out of HN, too.

trjordan•31m ago
Everybody is different, but the biggest reason I struggle with this right now is the pace of modern life.

Doing hard things is hard, and that means I won't be thinking about the other stuff I have to do. I'm more apt to miss a text from my family when I'm running or writing a document than when I'm vibe coding, because the effort is all-encompassing. Subconsciously, that's stressful, so I steer away from it.

Habits help here, because with enough repetition, I learn that it's OK to disappear for an hour to do the thing. But the real issue is getting the meta-organization of my life right enough that I'm not scared to shut down my ambient executive function for that hour. This shows up as both "I'm too busy to do the hard thing" and "I'm too tired to do the hard thing."

Slowing down isn't the answer, but it's been pretty transformative to notice that that's what I'm worried about.

coffeecoders•31m ago
I find it interesting how a lot of this advice overlaps with the same tricks we use in software engineering to tackle big problems. Breaking things into smaller chunks or even gamifying with streaks is basically the human version of agile sprints.

Sleep, diet, and stress are like "system dependencies".

gmac•28m ago
See also: https://www.structuredprocrastination.com/
task331•21m ago
After several years of trying to come up with the perfect way to keep motivation up, I have found there is no such thing.

The only thing that matters for me nowadays is this: before I start the task, I admit to myself that it is going to be hard, but I am doing it anyways, so why do it like its a drag? It's pointless and it's a waste of energy.

task331•17m ago
Also, I have found that if I don't open myself up to the hard task at hand before I start, a lot of things can happen that deviates myself from doing the task in its optimal form. For example, I can come up with excuses for not doing the task right now, or I can invent other work that is 'more important', or find something to blame while I do the task so I can cope with its difficulty, etc.

There is a myriad of things that can be invented to avoid or cope with the pain, but if I am going through this anyway, there is no reason whatsoever to make it more painful that it will already be.

guhcampos•20m ago
Let's all be honest here.

I use Vyvanse.

nextworddev•14m ago
Biggest productivity hack is to just avoid working in fields you don’t feel passionate about. If you don’t know what you are passionate about, then just keep trying things passionately
GoldenMonkey•13m ago
Avoid thinking of the pain of the task at hand. Imagine and focus on the reward of these tasks.

Lifting weights... imagine the stronger person you will become. Studying for that exam.. picture the career you aspire to. Avoiding that donut... imagine the healthier you.

Habit stacking helps to remind one of the task to do. To avoid the struggle of doing them, picture the desired outcome.

siva7•5m ago
There are millions of articles on the internet about this topic. You can equally feed Chatgpt the submission title and it will give you roughly similiar advice. Forget all this crap: See rather a proper physician and psychologist if you struggle with this problems for a long time to be checked for various conditions.
bena•4m ago
I guess I motivate myself by realizing that taking care of the problem early will be easier than later.

By knowing if I don’t get this thing done, it doesn’t get done.

That for some tasks “want” doesn’t matter.

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