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Britain jumps into bed with Palantir in £1.5B defense pact

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/20/uk_palantir_defense_pact/
62•rntn•1h ago

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Krasnol•1h ago
This Thiel-Verse product is exactly what privacy concerned people always warned about but worse.

We're delivering tools of surveillance to a world where freedom loving countries turn into oppressive regimes.

Really ugly times ahead of us...

Alifatisk•57m ago
More and more are feeding the beast, I am starting to get a bit worried
Hikikomori•54m ago
Wait til you find out Thiel believes about democracy.
sneak•17m ago
Probably pretty similarly to how the people who actually run the world superpowers feel about democracy: a nice illusion for those that live under the military dictatorships that are our current systems.
Lio•55m ago
This is a very bad move. Once again the goverment is putting relationships with foreign businesses ahead of domestic firms. It's just more tech we can't independantly rely on.
gms•19m ago
That's how the world works. No country produces everything.
jimbohn•15m ago
But not everything has a killswitch or other sovereign-threatening features
dazc•10m ago
Is there a UK-based company offering a comparable service?
fidotron•5m ago
The problem is the UK tech business scene positively drips in that particular sort of expensively suited sliminess, as the entire HP Autonomy mess epitomized. Other places have this, but in the UK it's like it has killed almost the whole ecosystem.

It hasn't been a country with a remote chance of producing another Arm for well over a decade, and Arm, successful though it is, is not a huge financial success.

jmclnx•50m ago
Crazy, the UK is signing up to what I believe is a scheme to transfer $ from taxpayers to the extreme wealthy in the US. That includes Trump.

I personally believe Palantir provides no real benefit except to enrich the fascist rich in the US.

espadrine•47m ago
Does Palantir fall under the Cloud Act[0]?

I wonder why so many governments sign with a company that, even if the contract says they will not leak information to the US government, is required to yield any information to it if the US requests it, without even being able to notify their client—regardless of the location of the servers themselves.

[0]: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4943...

DoingIsLearning•43m ago
Not just governments, Europol as an European wide police. [0]

Palantir is also likely one of the major lobbyists in pushing for Chat Control to the European Commision.

[0] (warning pdf) https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2022-00095...

chvid•28m ago
Usually these laws exclude military and police work. (Meaning the cloud act does not apply here.)
__natty__•42m ago
How in practice their products work? For example Palantir Gotham. What for they use it? I wonder if it’s like Tableau for military?
chvid•29m ago
It is wild that various European countries keep handling Palantir contracts for work that could have been done by local companies.
ludicrousdispla•3m ago
Are there any others besides UK? I have heard from a reliable source that Austria banned Palantir but I haven't confirmed it.
qweiopqweiop•17m ago
The UK already uses palantir. Clearly they value it to continue and extend the relationship. But what do they know?

"Jumps into bed" gives a pretty good idea of what the author wants you to think. But I'm going to give the people signing the deal the benefit of the doubt that they might know a bit more.

moogly•17m ago
I'm already starting to long for the simpler times of the Cold War; it's pretty clear we're not heading for post-scarcity Star Trek or Culture, but rather technofascism into technofeudalism. Some would argue we're already there, but I say it can (and will) still get a lot worse.

Now where did I put that Mutant Chronicles rulebook...

34ahdgT•16m ago
The lineage is interesting:

Robert Maxwell allegedly sold a backdoored version of the PROMIS software to many governments, including the US government.

Christine Maxwell, founder of the Magellan search engine, co-founded the Chiliad data analysis software that was used in the FBI post 9/11.

Her co-founder was Alan Wade, who then went to the CIA in the role of CIO when In-Q-Tel founded Palantir.

Epstein invested in Thiel's Valar fund after 2008.

fidotron•14m ago
This whole US investment round in the UK is dreadful, as Nick Clegg is noting.

It's basically we give you money now so you end up paying us back twice and don't develop anything locally either. And we get your data in the mean time.

That said, the UK is clearly desperate, as recent discussions on here attest to.

net01•3m ago
Peter Thiel was very close with Epstein, BTW: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45043807

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