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What Is Blueskyism?

https://www.natesilver.net/p/what-is-blueskyism
12•ImJamal•1h ago

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bigyabai•1h ago
As someone who never used Bluesky or X, the only thing this article has convinced me of is that the author is terminally online. They seemingly ignore that all three of their "essential characteristics" are just byproducts of modernity. Dialectic digression and credentialism are the product of empiricism dominating the human spirit. Nobody prays to get rid of illness anymore, you go to the doctor so they can give you an empirically-tested cure. And it works better than prayer, hence, we worship digression and credentials.

Catastrophism is native to American politics. How, exactly, you live in a globalist world without forming an opinion on the matter is a study of sociopaths for someone else. There is no post-WWII America without the myth of catastrophe and salvation via nuclear war. We built this nation, and set the global status-quo, on the back of a global catastrophe. Ignoring that fact doesn't make you a better historian, it makes you blind.

Maybe those Bluesky users are just repeating the past 150 years of anthropological research that pertains to postmodern human politics. This Nate Silver guy would probably cream his shorts if he read Hegel.

leakycap•1h ago
Have whatever opinion of Nate Silver you'd like, but acting like you don't know who he is makes your argument have less standing.

And the last line you wrote is gross.

matthewdgreen•1h ago
I think Nate Silver is a pretty famous poll maker/statistician, but as a pundit he’s basically “just some guy with an opinion,” and I think it’s accurate and healthy that the GP poster treats him that way.
leakycap•44m ago
What part of the last line of the comment I responded to resonates with you most?
standardly•1h ago
separating public discourse into two distinct echo chambers is among the worst possible things I can imagine for our society right now
leakycap•1h ago
Do you volunteer as tribute to go yell into the void you don't agree with, though?
duxup•1h ago
I really don't want to be the one who has to go to the other places for the sake of discourse and be told that because I enjoyed some some song that I'm a nazi or a libtard ...

I don't disagree with you entirely, but I also am not sure I'm doing any good being called names and I want to spend time places online where folks don't hate at me.

josefresco•1h ago
Where do we go? The public squares are owned by oligarchs.
leakycap•42m ago
Since when is a private social media website the public square? X doesn't even allow browsing most posts or responses, with almost everything except gory videos requiring a login.
draw_down•1h ago
I can't agree, it's been nice to have these people off Twitter. They don't contribute much and their shrillness got really old.
bandyaboot•1h ago
I don’t know, this seems like something to be taken with a grain of salt. Throughout, the post is dripping with personal contempt for the people he’s talking about. It just seems like he’s taking his personal experience with the “blueskyists” pre Bluesky and turning it into something important enough to coin this term “Blueskyism”, without ever making the case that that’s true.

It’s less, “this is an important thing to consider in contemporary, online political discourse”, and more, “I have personal experience with these sorts of people, and let me tell you, they annoy the living piss out of me.” And I have no trouble believing him.

UncleMeat•1h ago
I believe that a substantial challenge with modern pundit discourse is that every pundit with any meaningful reach can now go online and see a whole bunch of people calling them big dumb idiots on any given day. Even if the vast majority of discourse is fine it feels absolutely horrible to open up twitter or bluesky or whatever and have a whole bunch of DMs calling you an asshole.

I think this drives people like Nate Silver to overreact and draw big conclusions about platforms and political ideologies and put out content like this.

Some people are annoying on social media. If the platform structurally focuses you on a group of annoying people it'll look like everybody on that platform is annoying. But I'd hope that somebody who got famous for data analysis could do a better job with this. The bluesky firehose is there. AI tools make mass sentiment analysis easier to perform than ever. We could have a real analysis of "blueskyism" but instead we get a bunch of gripes from a person who sees a tiny portion of the website yell at him every time he opens the site.

throwmeaway222•54m ago
Did Nate Silver notice 2 grammar errors in his post there that nearly affect the meaning of it? People need more ChatGPT than they think.

Also Bluesky was never the "prom king" even on his graph it had 3% market share at its peak WHILE X had 30%.

That being said, it was impressive for it to hit 3%, but last I heard every conservative person that tried to join it was instabanned within 3 minutes. You'll never have a rival to X if you ban half the population.

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