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How did sports betting become legal in the US?

https://shreyashariharan.substack.com/p/how-did-sports-betting-become-legal
44•_1729•1h ago

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tengbretson•35m ago
> the amount wagered on sports bets has grown from $5 billion to $150 billion annually. 58% of college students have bet on sports. 50% of all men below 50 have an online sports betting account.

If I had my way, everyone who has ever made a "why make it illegal/regulate it? People will just do it anyway."-style argument would be forced under penalty of law to write the above quote 300 times on a chalkboard.

decimalenough•29m ago
While I have no doubt sports betting is much more popular now, I presume the $5 billion figure does not capture the considerable amount of illegal betting that happened previously.
jgalt212•19m ago
If you wanted to bet on sports when I was in college you needed a bookie. Now, you have access to all the legal bookies in the world in your pocket. It's hard to make an argument that something that is now legal and much easier than before is not much more popular than before.
coffeefirst•13m ago
And the bookie was a guy you’d call up, shoot the shit, and he was basically everyone’s buddy. There were inherent constraints.

He could not advertise. He could not send you push notifications or run AB tests on millions of users.

dastbe•3m ago
I was interested in this, so perusing I found https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/ngisc/reports/2.pdf which estimates in the late 90s

"Estimates of the scope of illegal sports betting in the United States range anywhere from $80 billion to $380 billion annually, making sports betting the most widespread and popular form of gambling in America."

which seems surprising even at the low end.

similarly from https://www.americangaming.org/new-aga-report-shows-american... in 2022

"AGA’s report estimates that Americans wager $63.8 billion with illegal bookies and offshore sites at a cost of $3.8 billion in gaming revenue and $700 million in state taxes. With Americans projected to place $100 billion in legal sports bets this year, these findings imply that illegal sportsbook operators are capturing nearly 40 percent of the U.S. sports betting market."

I think what would be more interesting to me is estimates on the unique number of citizens betting. Is it up? If so, how appreciably?

defrost•26m ago
All the downsides of a crack epidemic without having to source any drugs.
tdeck•10m ago
I remember walking into Powell station in the mid 2010s and the whole thing was plastered top to bottom in DraftKings ads and wondering "why is this allowed". It was like a switch flipped and suddenly gambling was being advertised everywhere.
zoklet-enjoyer•8m ago
Why make it illegal or regulate it? So what if half of men have gambled on sports? How many people throw away money on casino games, lotteries, raffles, loot boxes, et cetera? It's not my business how they throw away their money.
yieldcrv•3m ago
> style argument would be forced under penalty of law to write the above quote 300 times on a chalkboard

as initiation to your startup accelerator?

_--__--__•28m ago
Note that the article uses an outdated name for the Supreme Court case: Christie was replaced as governor while it was ongoing and the final name was Murphy v NCAA. That will make it easier to search for later coverage of the result instead of just early blog posts from when it was brought to court.
cortesoft•16m ago
It all comes down to: there was a ton of money to be made.
firejake308•7m ago
But wasn't that also true in 1979 when the ban was first put in place? Obviously, yes, money is the main force driving this country toward sports betting, but I argue that there used to be a counteracting force called morals, and the loss of that counter-force is what led us to where we are now.
mattmaroon•16m ago
They left out the UIGEA which specifically legalized fantasy sports for money and the fact that FanDuel was not the first daily fantasy sports site (went through YC with one myself in 2007) but good primer nonetheless.
stevage•14m ago
Sports betting is one of those things that sounds kind of harmless in the abstract, and like something that consenting adults should be allowed to do. But in practice, it causes enormous harm, both by draining the meagre resources of the people who get addicted to it, and by changing the nature of the sports in ways that make them less enjoyable for everyone who isn't betting.
gchamonlive•9m ago
I think betting needs to work like credit cards. When you get a credit card the bank does a risk assessment to evaluate your line of credit and you won't be able to spend over that limit.

Well, sports betting could have the same mechanism, where you are only allowed to bet an amount proportional to your line of credit.

If the banks don't trust you to spend over that limit and honour your debt, why should betting houses be any different?

mapt•6m ago
The problem is the intersection of two things that have questionable social merit and you could easily see a society making illegal.

One of them is gambling.

The other is modern marketing.

Combined, they represent a substantial harm.

With nearly all of our social agency - which in our society means money - already in the possession of a tiny fraction of the country, with the bottom half of the country having approximately zero savings and spending at least as much as they have income? Any revenue gleaned from their dysfunctional attitude becomes a collective hardship, money that needs to be replaced by some form of subsidy to maintain our quality of life and avoid spillover problems like property crime.

FridayoLeary•3m ago
There's some intense opposition to betting here. It's odd because in the UK sports betting is pretty much embedded in the culture. In fact i'm pretty sure the only reason horse racing is even a thing is because posh rich people like to bet on it. I'm anti gambling personally which is part of why i hate crypto but i don't get why sports betting in particular is so objectionable.

My charitable interpretation is that it's a way for fans to feel more invested in the game. When their team wins they also do.

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