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Flock Reinstalls Cameras Without City Approval After Unlawful Govt Access

https://evanstonroundtable.com/2025/09/24/flock-safety-reinstalls-evanston-cameras/
52•ptk•1h ago

Comments

JumpCrisscross•34m ago
Is there a good public list of Flock Safety cities? Would be particularly interesting to see where they are in blue states.
asteroidburger•31m ago
There's a crowdsourced collection of ALPRs in OpenStreetMap. deflock.me/map has a display of that data.
jbotdev•26m ago
They don’t have a public list, but this blog post conveniently has a map of their locations: https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/introducing-law-enforcement...

Judging by the places they advertise, it’s mostly smaller cities/towns. I think the larger cities in the US tend to run their own cameras.

jer0me•20m ago
You can search for cities' transparency portals. Not sure if every Flock customer has one though.

  site:transparency.flocksafety.com
ch33zer•14m ago
Because it's relevant to many on this site, most bay area cities are users
givemeethekeys•29m ago
Why sue? Why not impound and fine like they would illegally parked vehicles?
jbotdev•20m ago
Additional info on the “pilot program” they took issue with: https://apnews.com/article/immigration-abortion-license-plat...
donmcronald•18m ago
Even though it's become commonplace in the last 20 years, I'm still shocked to see how companies can pretty much ignore the law, do whatever they want, and have everyone involved shielded from any kind of significant consequences.

In situations like this, I think the person at the top of the chain that told employees to perform the illegal installations should be arrested and charged. On top of that, the company should be fined into bankruptcy. If the directors knew about it any companies they're involved with shouldn't be allowed to conduct future business in the municipality (or state).

mothballed•4m ago
They were co-operating/conspiring with CBP.

Most likely the feds said they will tie up whoever challenges them in federal court. They can play jurisdiction fuck fuck games and then flip between it being a search, it being necessary for safety, that the city/county was obstruction a federal investigation, and all other nonsense.

Don't think your company could just put up cameras and post the location of LEO and they'd let you get away with something like that.

IlikeKitties•14m ago
So Fun facts about digital cameras like these: Strong infrared leds at night blind them completely. They sometimes even switch into daymode and become useless at night. Also, lasers are usually not enough to destroy the ccd sensor but only cause small dots to appear[0]. But a Spraycan on a stick can be very effective and of course a silenced airgun for those hard to reach places can be very effective.

[0] Lab Test here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNWNQb2AvQM

etchalon•13m ago
If these were installed without authorization, I assume citizens can rip them down without the same.
userbinator•12m ago
Or more likely, make use of the 2nd Amendment on them.
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