exhibits the sort of behavior I'd imagine Bell Labs would have wanted to encourage.
(It also gets me upset when in comparison charlatans manage to get onto the HN frontpage.. there's a deep strong vs weak link problem here that I need to calm down and think about)
I recall, now, with some guilt and regret, the times I've been approached by students, janitors with interesting technical hobbies, and profs while anchored to liminal spaces
--And I didn't seize the opportunities to collab (ok, the prof was Ginsparg lol, who used to be the most liminal tenured sort of person I could think of )
Maybe the problem here is that you somehow don't look interesting enough, or, more likely, the only liminal spaces next to where you work are shared labspace behind closed doors or next to a giant meteorite :)
Not advice: undergrads tend to be more excited at what they work on (I had a random grad student show me the NMR setup in the chem dept but I think I was more inspired than he was-- you need to listen between the lines for the unassigned problems which still stir some residual emotions in the grad student; that one was into quantum error correction.)
PaulHoule•4mo ago
You knew Ginsparg?
gsf_emergency_2•4mo ago
I think a better question is of the form "known by Ginsparg?" Conjecture: "no" :)
"aP,aS" is a recipe for achieving an equilibrium of (semipermanent) purgatory
. Yet there could be tiny (cross-community, even though not community-wide) pockets of optimism/mutual learning:
Could use better photos for their balloon launches, has backstage access to outdoor events, only a tad identarian etc
How's business at the Daily Sun?
PaulHoule•4mo ago
Yeah, it's been a while since I've been to the ham radio club. My station is in parts, the batteries for my HT discharge before I get around to using them but my license is still current... I oughta go. Also the sunspots still look pretty good
This spring I was shocked at how bad the pictures students were posting in ℎ , I'm not sure who would be more embarassed if I poked my head in around there. Hackathons are a better outlet because the students think I am slowing them down until somehow they get a minimal viable product out and won a prize and can't understand why. (Plenty of real PMs thought I was slowing them down too and don't know how it was they got a product to market when I was on the team when they were going in circles before)
gsf_emergency_2•4mo ago
>embarassed
Like I once managed not to be triggered by ex-VC aebtebeten's routine dismissal of the following thesis the pieces of which I then had to shovel back into the incubator: expert embarassment is a seriously under-investigated vehicle that can't be faked in front of hiring committees (/elite managers/apple-ICs-who-cant-help-but-be-promoted-into-???)..
schlep-tolerance (all sorts of tolerance, sprezzatura, even) can be faked (whether until made or not) these days..
Embarassment.. it's only slightly better than self-deprecatory humor (in that the embarassed party explicitly confesses to (not merely) incomplete sentience, but also inexplicable emotional sequelae etc etc)
Now, who's going to devote decades to perfecting performative embarassment? Only someone you must hire at any cost (?) like.. a Soham Parekh who can explain the meta of what he's doing so you'd pay him to continue the shtick
To the guy out there in the arena: sorry! My anti-anhedonia model needs fine-tuning. It's a lifelong slog..
As it is, I'm embarrassed that this stuff doesn't attract upvotes..
gsf_emergency_2•4mo ago
>strange sort of liminal person
exhibits the sort of behavior I'd imagine Bell Labs would have wanted to encourage.
(It also gets me upset when in comparison charlatans manage to get onto the HN frontpage.. there's a deep strong vs weak link problem here that I need to calm down and think about)
I recall, now, with some guilt and regret, the times I've been approached by students, janitors with interesting technical hobbies, and profs while anchored to liminal spaces
--And I didn't seize the opportunities to collab (ok, the prof was Ginsparg lol, who used to be the most liminal tenured sort of person I could think of )
Maybe the problem here is that you somehow don't look interesting enough, or, more likely, the only liminal spaces next to where you work are shared labspace behind closed doors or next to a giant meteorite :)
Not advice: undergrads tend to be more excited at what they work on (I had a random grad student show me the NMR setup in the chem dept but I think I was more inspired than he was-- you need to listen between the lines for the unassigned problems which still stir some residual emotions in the grad student; that one was into quantum error correction.)
PaulHoule•4mo ago
gsf_emergency_2•4mo ago
"aP,aS" is a recipe for achieving an equilibrium of (semipermanent) purgatory . Yet there could be tiny (cross-community, even though not community-wide) pockets of optimism/mutual learning:
https://www.w2cxm.org/
Could use better photos for their balloon launches, has backstage access to outdoor events, only a tad identarian etc
How's business at the Daily Sun?
PaulHoule•4mo ago
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression
so I oughta work the 10m band while I still can.
This spring I was shocked at how bad the pictures students were posting in ℎ , I'm not sure who would be more embarassed if I poked my head in around there. Hackathons are a better outlet because the students think I am slowing them down until somehow they get a minimal viable product out and won a prize and can't understand why. (Plenty of real PMs thought I was slowing them down too and don't know how it was they got a product to market when I was on the team when they were going in circles before)
gsf_emergency_2•4mo ago
Like I once managed not to be triggered by ex-VC aebtebeten's routine dismissal of the following thesis the pieces of which I then had to shovel back into the incubator: expert embarassment is a seriously under-investigated vehicle that can't be faked in front of hiring committees (/elite managers/apple-ICs-who-cant-help-but-be-promoted-into-???)..
schlep-tolerance (all sorts of tolerance, sprezzatura, even) can be faked (whether until made or not) these days..
Embarassment.. it's only slightly better than self-deprecatory humor (in that the embarassed party explicitly confesses to (not merely) incomplete sentience, but also inexplicable emotional sequelae etc etc)
Now, who's going to devote decades to perfecting performative embarassment? Only someone you must hire at any cost (?) like.. a Soham Parekh who can explain the meta of what he's doing so you'd pay him to continue the shtick
To the guy out there in the arena: sorry! My anti-anhedonia model needs fine-tuning. It's a lifelong slog..
As it is, I'm embarrassed that this stuff doesn't attract upvotes..