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Streameast Reclaimed Domain Name Previously Seized by the U.S. Government

https://torrentfreak.com/streameast-reclaimed-domain-name-previously-seized-by-the-u-s-government/
1•gslin•5m ago•0 comments

A brief escape from social media

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1•herbertl•6m ago•0 comments

Singularity: LKM rootkit for modern kernels (6x)

https://github.com/MatheuZSecurity/Singularity
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Neptune Confirms Major 43M-Tonne Lithium Resource in Germany

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3•mpweiher•9m ago•0 comments

Failures and Open Doors

https://geoffgraham.me/failures-and-open-doors/
1•herbertl•10m ago•0 comments

Ultrasound helmet enables deep brain stimulation in people without surgery

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1•PaulHoule•11m ago•1 comments

NeuralSide – Chrome AI Sidebar with Image Generation

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I Built Roundtable MCP: AI Consilium Multi-AI Expert Consensus

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MCP Server for Turning OpenAPI Specifications into a MCP Resource

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Autism may be the price of human intelligence

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Farewell Friends

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15 Years into the Boom, Iceland Asks If It's Had Enough of Mass Tourism

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1•mooreds•13m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: What should a successor to Terraform look like?

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My First Lines of Code

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Stupid Jj Tricks

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Assume that "How is Claude doing this session?" is a privacy loophole

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1•spenvo•16m ago•0 comments

ST introduces Rust MEMS drivers

https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/rust-driver-mems.html
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H-1B vs. Canadian PR after the $100k fee: a candidate-first comparison

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Play snake in the URL address bar

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Electrodynamic Transmutation

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Anthropic Economic Index Uneven geographic and enterprise AI adoption

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How Did Hands Evolve? The Answer Is Behind You

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Secure File Uploads for Intercom

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2•dokiaro•41m ago•1 comments

We Bought the Whole GPU, So We're Damn Well Going to Use the Whole GPU

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React State Management in 2025: What You Need

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Ruby Doo: Making JavaScript Do More Ruby

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1•thunderbong•50m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

China Is Run by Engineers. America Is Run by Lawyers

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/china-is-run-by-engineers-america-is-run-by-lawyers/
121•m-hodges•1h ago

Comments

bearjaws•1h ago
I think its less a problem of lawyers and more a problem of age.

I learned today Chuck Grassley plans to run again and would be 95 years old in congress. This is insane.

If you've worked retail you know many above 75 are not all there, plain and simple.

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025...

bdangubic•1h ago
60 should be HARD limit for any politician (including scotus)
delusional•1h ago
Why would there need to be a hard limit on something the electorate is already directly voting on? You might say every election is an election on if people above X age should be in congress.
nomadygnt•1h ago
Which really makes you wonder how well the system is really working. Of course I don’t know this but I feel like if you asked everyone, the majority of people would say that 95, or 90, or 85 is too old to be in congress. But somehow they keep getting reelected…
metabagel•50m ago
Incumbents have an enormous advantage. We would need publicly funded elections in order to change this.
bearjaws•43m ago
Almost like people vote in people of similar age. Baby boomers was the largest generation far larger than the preceding and later generation.
femiagbabiaka•55m ago
Because people vote for the party and not the individual in most cases.
vladms•51m ago
Direct voting is relative. Candidates are supported in the last 15 years also by companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC and coupled with campaigns getting more and more expensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United... that can mean that in practice it is not as direct as it might seem.

Not sure what is the solution, but if people say they would prefer younger "options" and they don't materialize on the ballots, that is a sign that the system does not work as intended.

bushbaba•36m ago
Aging population means that many democracies will have more old than young voters. Couple that with the American culture of f you I’ve got mine, leads to a prioritization not on the future generations.
ricardobeat•57m ago
Benjamin Franklin would like a word with you (signed your declaration of independence at 70), as would Churchill, Picasso, Enzo Ferrari, Mother Theresa and a thousand others…
rusk•47m ago
Mother Theresa? Pretty sure she was young when she did most of her stuff and just aged out. Clerics don’t exactly retire …

Had to double check the dates on Churchill - very impressive

hermitcrab•41m ago
Churchill probably not the best example:

"In 1953, during his second stint as prime minister, Winston Churchill had a stroke after dinner. “No one seemed alarmed by [his] slurred speech and unsteadiness on his feet, one of the advantages of having a reputation for enjoying alcohol,” writes Andrew Roberts, a historian. For several weeks, as Churchill was incapable of governing, his son-in-law and private secretary in effect ran the country. He never fully recovered, yet refused to stand down until 1955, when he was 80. " https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/07/03/senility-in-hi...

regularization•34m ago
Yes, Churchill's second term as prime minister is not a good example.

Picasso's output in his last 20 years is not considered in the same way as his previous work.

roenxi•37m ago
Churchill at all ages is exactly what the US should be trying to avoid - he was the best product of a generation of politicians who took the greatest empire in the history of the world and flubbed the economics and diplomacy so badly that it has become a footnote.

If the plan is to reduce the reach of Washington to Virginia and DC then Churchill would be a great choice of leader and if that is the explicit goal then ok sure. If the plan is to maintain a peaceful status quo as a powerful and successful country people like Churchill in the leadership are a very bad sign indeed.

You have to assume the UK had no power to influence its internal or world affairs to conclude that its political class were competent through the last century. Which is a crazy stance given where they were in the early 1900s.

jordanb•1h ago
One thing I've realized it that the Democratic party is a machine. It rewards loyalty and waiting your turn. It punishes getting out of line and challenging incumbents.

Parts of the Republican party are too of course (hence Grassley) but it's been the target of several successful insurgencies. First the tea party and then Trump. Now it's turning into something completely different.. a cult of personalty for a dictator.

But the intact machine is the reason why the Democrats can not rise to the occasion. Their whole system is one designed to produce dour grey apparatchiks.

regularization•31m ago
DP is corporate funded and exists to squash movements from the left. Most people have to see this up close to see it though.
regularization•1h ago
I remember in the 1970s when the Soviet Union was called a gerontocracy. Gorbachev becoming general Secretary at the age of 54 was seen as a breath of fresh air. As your chart shows, one third of the US Senate is over the age of 70. We have people like Biden and Trump as president. Sign of the times (who are respectively 10 and 7 years older than Xi). Incidentally, Xi is the oldest member of the Politburo Standing Committee.
AnimalMuppet•37m ago
Only one third? I'm highly surprised that it's that low.
ourmandave•1h ago
...anyone above 75 is not all there, plain and simple.

Yeesh, ageism, plain and simple.

But yeah, Grassley needs to hang up the spurs.

lm28469•49m ago
It's not ageism, people deciding the future of your country shouldn't already have a foot in the grave

Just look at Trump and Biden speeches VS Bush or Obama

lazide•41m ago
That’s like literally saying someone going off on someone because of their skin color (exclusively) isn’t being racist.

It’s in the definition. Words have meaning.

lm28469•33m ago
Not being able to drive, drink or vote before being adult is also ageism then I guess? It's weird I thought that was the law, hmmm
lazide•30m ago
It is, literally. Just because it’s legal doesn’t change what it is.
lm28469•25m ago
OK so let's say it's ageism, why should I care again?

If your president can barely finish a coherent sentence and literally pisses in a plastic bag strapped to his leg I don't care how you call it but I want none of it

Same reason I don't leave my newborn baby alone with my 95 years old grandma who has dementia, call it ageism if you want, I call it basic common sense

tjwebbnorfolk•23m ago
Congratulations, you've labeled something. What's your point?
lazide•12m ago
That words have meanings. I thought I was pretty clear about it?
navbaker•18m ago
The difference for purposes of the conversation happening here is skin color absolutely does not affect cognition where age definitely does.
lazide•2m ago
Plenty of 12 year old morons, and 90 year old razor sharp professors as counter examples.

Either way, those same old folks are the ones who’d need to sign off on the rules banning their existence and I don’t see them doing that.

So who are the idiots exactly?

frmersdog•34m ago
"Muh ageism" is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for these kinds of conversations. You have to make an effort to actually argue against the statements you disagree with. Are people 75-and-older agile and flexible enough, mentally, to perform in these positions? To connect with the constituents they represent? If the incidence of the requisite acuity does indeed drop with advanced age, are the individuals in government disproportionately among those who avoid issues? And, if so, how do you know?
leptons•26m ago
>Are people 75-and-older agile and flexible enough, mentally, to perform in these positions?

All of them? No. But I also could introduce you to plenty of 25 year old's that aren't "agile and flexible enough, mentally to perform these positions". And it's often not even "mental agility" that is the problem with people in power, it's corruption, greed, and just plain old hate that is the problem. Those things don't have any age limits except maybe below 6 years old, and even then I've met some pretty nasty, spoiled toddlers.

bearjaws•24m ago
Totally fair to call out blanket “anyone 75+ isn’t all there” as ageist. But the governance point still stands: even sharp octogenarians are often out of sync with modern life (platforms, tech norms, digital risks). Only 8% of adults 65+ say they’re online “almost constantly,” vs 48% of 18–29 a proxy for how different the information environment is that shapes decisions.
daveguy•13m ago
The word would be a better place if everyone was offline more often. They wouldn't be as subject to the propaganda oligopolies.
master_crab•55m ago
There is another sort of old age the US suffers from. The government is now amongst the oldest nation-state organizations on the planet with probably the oldest written national laws (the constitution) still in use.

The cruft that has built up (from the 2nd amendment, to the electoral college) over 250ish years is a serious problem.

shakna•52m ago
> with probably the oldest written national laws (the constitution) still in use.

The UK would easily disagree, with their founding codification in 1215.

jrflowers•36m ago
The Magna Carta was a list of stipulations relating to a monarch as the absolute head of state. The UK does not have that anymore.
DSingularity•50m ago
I doubt that’s the problem. The public policy government is captured by corporations. The military policy arm of the government is manipulated by a myriad of interests operating indirectly from the shadows — ranging from foreign intelligence agencies (ie Israeli) to military/industrial companies.

Old so competent senators barely matter. It’s all about unelected corporate boards and secret groups within influential government agencies.

AtlasBarfed•45m ago
It's kind of the same thing. Corruption has shaped around the old laws and the power structures that aligned around them.
saubeidl•37m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_San_Marino

San Marino has you beat, but obviously quite different scale.

t-3•23m ago
The sheer bulk of the law is a huge problem, but there are very clear and well thought-out procedures for amending the Constitution. Cruft is all the felonies and misdemeanors you commit just commuting to work every day, not the Constitution, which can be read and more or less understood by anyone literate in a few hours.
jacquesm•18m ago
> which can be read and more or less understood by anyone literate in a few hours.

The fact that the supreme court even exists shows that this is far from the whole truth. Besides that, and even if it were the case, there is a pretty clear effort underway to do an end-run around large chunks of that constitution.

snapplebobapple•12m ago
The second amendment is literally the specified solution, not the problem.
mattmanser•2m ago
Do they teach nothing of European history in America? Magna Carta? Basically the inspiration behind your constitution?

1215, still a few parts left as enforceable law today. If you think US institutions are old, try European ones. We're still supposed to practice longbow on Sundays.

America is middle aged, at best. You haven't even changed regime yet. Only every been a republic. Never changed religion.

How cute. Poor old Spain has been back and forth with absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy, republics and even a fascist dictatorship thrown in the mix.

teddy-smith•44m ago
My grandma is 80 and speaks 7 languages and is a professor and teaches classes.

She's smarter than me.

What you just said is agist.

rileymat2•28m ago
There are incredibly smart and talented 12 year olds that are not allowed to vote due to age. Agism is pervasive in our culture, old and young, so we should ask if the discrimination is pragmatic or not. Moral or not. Legal or not.
general1465•5m ago
While young people can be considered immature until certain age, old people have big taboo about senility and dementia. As you are not allowed to vote and drive until certain age, you should not be allowed to vote and drive since certain age, because your brain could be considered immature again through degeneration.
bjourne•24m ago
Omniman strikes again! https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplainTheJoke/comments/1k3mqvs/the...
g42gregory•44m ago
There is a saying that, in China, the top political career starts at 70.

I don't think the age is the problem. It's corruption.

AndroTux•31m ago
Luckily there’s no corruption in China
t-3•20m ago
At least corruption is sometimes punished in China. The agriculture minister was just given what's essentially a life sentence for corruption.
jacquesm•17m ago
Sometimes isn't good enough. That's just selective enforcement, which is arguably worse than no enforcement at all.
t-3•10m ago
No law is enforced absolutely on every offender. That's impossible. Selective enforcement is a problem, but I would never say it's worse than no enforcement unless the law is bad in the first place.
jacquesm•2m ago
It is when it is mostly used as a weapon rather than as a law. And China, unfortunately, has quite a lot of that.
tokioyoyo•31m ago
To be fair, corruption is also a problem in China. But still the consequences are much higher, if you think of province-level book-cooking and what happened to their leaders.

The incentives for policy making are much different in both countries.

horns4lyfe•43m ago
Ya they’re all old lawyers
johnisgood•38m ago
We have an age limit in so many fields. Being in congress should have one, too. Aging affects many parts of our brain (negatively) responsible for cognition.
jasonsb•37m ago
It's lawyers. Definitely lawyers and copyright laws. You could also add corruption and age, but these are problems that can be found in China as well.
FpUser•35m ago
>"anyone above 75 is not all there" - this is pure BS

But yeah allowing Chuck Grassley to run at this young </s> age is pure insanity.

micromacrofoot•26m ago
if we have a federal retirement age we should just use that
atmavatar•23m ago
It's about more than just whether a congressperson is all there or not.

A bigger concern to me is that many of them are old enough that any long-term impacts resulting from bills they pass simply won't happen until they're gone.

And, I would expand that to include more than just Congress - I think major executive offices and the Supreme Court should have an age limit for the very same reason. Anyone in government office whose decisions can have long-lasting effects should be young enough they need to keep that in mind.

Anyone who (statistically) has only a few years left to live and especially anyone past the average life expectancy are welcome to hang around in advisory roles, but they should have limited (if any) power to directly affect future policy because they simply don't have any real skin in the game any longer.

ugh123•23m ago
Both can be true. Old lawyers are probably the worst
general1465•15m ago
Old people are voting for old people, because they are not going to vote for kids. Does not matter that the "kid" is 45 year old who is much more attached to everyday reality than old people.
elteto•1h ago
Nope, China is run by the Chinese Communist Party, which itself is run by Xi. That's it. Just look at Jack Ma for a clear example that China is not run by engineers or tech people.
tern•1h ago
As far as I know, this isn't true. Many members of the CCP have engineering degrees. A relevant podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1TeeIG6Uaw
elteto•1h ago
What exactly isn't true? That Xi doesn't control the CCP?

And presumably they also have doctors and even lawyers in the CCP! Come to think of it, I wonder if China is not actually run by lawyers as well...

canadiantim•1h ago
My understanding is that Xi’s control actually slipping and it isn’t complete control like a standard dictator
hermitcrab•53m ago
I thought he had purged his opposition under the cover of anti-corruption drives?
potatototoo99•1h ago
Xi is a chemical engineer.
chvid•1h ago
Alibaba being told to drop their fintech ventures and instead focus on deeptech (semiconductors and ai) is one of the clearest examples of China’s leadership of engineers setting priorities.
elteto•1h ago
That is purely driven by national security priorities, I mean, _clearly_. The engineering is just how you work towards meeting those priorities. If it had been making candy or melting ice then you can bet that's what they were going to focus on.
metalman•1h ago
look into the nitty gritty of the cultural revolution, and it's very specific focus on technology

jack ma got a modern day "re-education" tailored to his specific circumstsnces, but as always in these situations the offer is "lead? or gold? your choice!"

hermitcrab•58m ago
>look into the nitty gritty of the cultural revolution, and it's very specific focus on technology

As I understand it, the cultural revolution was mainly about young people running amok and victimizing teachers and authority figures. All orchestrated by Mao so he could cling to power. What did it have to do with technology?

hermitcrab•57m ago
Perhaps you meant the 'great leap forward'?
pessimizer•50m ago
Could you please update your references? China has been run by Mao's enemies for a very long time (likely longer than you've been alive), and the Cultural Revolution was a desperate ploy to consolidate power when the current way of Chinese thinking was growing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticize_Lin%2C_Criticize_Con...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_roader

siavosh•1h ago
Yeah I think the better metaphor is China is run by one person, and America is run by a set of rich people and rich companies pursuing various profit and pet interests.
elteto•1h ago
I think that is a good starting point.
lm28469•44m ago
A good starting point would be to read about the organization of the ccp, but yeah let's say your very simplistic take that fits in a single sentence surely encompass everything we need to know. I'd even go further and simplify it even more: "China bad"
tokioyoyo•13m ago
That is a very naive way of looking at things. There’s Politburo of 7, and even if we ignore other high rankings, provinces have huge amount of control over the way they’re ran. There are like 1.4B people in the country, it’s kinda funny to imagine that everyone just works and acts the same way.
SilverElfin•50m ago
But the CCP does promote based on merit and accomplishment for the most part.
vitorgrs•50m ago
So, you are saying China is run by a chemical engineer? Xi studied that at Tsinghua University.
metabagel•41m ago
Nailed it on the head. China is a dictatorship.
gwbas1c•1h ago
I listened to this podcast earlier this week, and yesterday listened to another in the series exploring the difference between corruption in the US and China.

It's always good to learn how other cultures govern themselves. China learned a lot from the US and other countries, adapted, and then benefitted immensely. In the US, we can learn a lot too.

sigfubar•12m ago
> In the US, we can learn a lot too.

Alas, American exceptionality as part of its premise precludes any act of learning from anywhere other than itself. Culturally, this is what inbreeding looks like.

Animats•1h ago
That's well known.

On the other hand, DOGE didn't go a great job running America.

kklisura•1h ago
IMHO, DOGE's result wasn't an engineering strategy to run a country, it was a businessperson's approach to running country.
atemerev•54m ago
"Data grab" is easier to write.
bearjaws•1h ago
DOGE was an attack on every agency that MAGA didn't like.

The goal was never to save money. The deficit is the largest its ever been.

SilverElfin•51m ago
Well DOGE also ran into a lot of obstructionism, and had to also move quickly due to the short political cycles America has. That doesn’t mean the concept itself is fundamentally bad.
NegativeK•47m ago
I suspect, strongly, that we disagree on the fundamentals of what DOGE's aim was.
ocdtrekkie•12m ago
If DOGE was actually trying to make things more efficient, it would have made very different choices. Firing thousands of workers that you still have to pay for half a year is not efficiency, it's massive waste. Not only did DOGE not actually save money, it burnt a ton of money breaking things our government now has to fix.

Even if they had taken an extra month to learn the systems they were cutting into, would've saved many months of wasted employee-hours with what happened.

daveguy•10m ago
doge is a purposely incompetent and corrupt shitshow.
adverbly•42m ago
At best doge was engineered cost cutting.

Engineers are builders - not cost cutters.

Anyone can be a cost cutter. The reason China is ahead is that they're building like crazy. They made and continue making long term capital investments in education, infrastructure, and energy. Guaranteed success. US is basically all in on AI right now for anything long term, and it's not even clear that AI will be something that will be a net benefit to the middle or working classes.

Don't mean to sound like a doomed or China glazer, but if the AI calls don't print when the debt collectors come knocking, it's gonna be serious trouble.

bushbaba•29m ago
Engineers are cost cutters. Half of engineering is making decisions on how to build within budget. Building within tolerances and not overly engineering things
mwkaufma•1h ago
Freakonomics: laundering conservative talking-points into "the npr set" for 20 years and still going.
tacitusarc•1h ago
The conservatives I know think it’s another mainstream democratic mouthpiece.

So I guess they’re doing something right.

mwkaufma•26m ago
No, just sounds like you know some dense conservatives.
asdff•1h ago
A broken clock is right twice a day. America has some of the highest numbers of lawyers per capita by far out of developed nations. These lawyers do not work for us, most middle and low income people do not get legal representation that they need at all. You learn where these lawyers actually work when you work in corporate, and you see quickly how this single department has complete unilateral control over all operations of the organization. Everything goes through them and they can shut down anything. Even directives by the chief executive officer who is supposedly at the helm are crafted by legal.

And when you understand that the american government is controlled by corporations, given the above logic that really means it is controlled by their lawyers. Most politicians in representative government come from law backgrounds as well.

metabagel•45m ago
Law is central to government. It makes sense for most politicians to have a background in law as opposed to, for an extreme example, real estate.
ciupicri•11m ago
Is this the reason that America still doesn't have a national abortion law and had to rely on a sentence?
xmonkee•49m ago
This is why everyone should have at least a basic education in materialist analysis. Our material relations dictate the structure of society, not the other way around. China is a manufacturing economy, that's why it's run be engineers, and America is built on exploiting the productive capacity of the rest of the world, so of course there's lots of lawyers.
fhrjfbdhdhd•49m ago
Are you implying that left wing ideas are always correct, and right wing ideas are always wrong? That seems very naïve, no?
ocdtrekkie•5m ago
I am not sure this makes conservatives sound great. They talk about how absolutely self-defeating Trump's policies are towards reshoring efforts. Freakonomics seems pretty genuinely centrist to me.
bbor•1h ago
America is run by entertainers, at the moment…
herval•1h ago
as it was repeatedly in the past (Reagan, Schwarzenegger and a bunch of others local officials). Circus sells.
bbor•34m ago
True, though having unelected entertainers running e.g. the DoD, FBI, and Medicare is something new, I'd think!
ummonk•1h ago
Not any more it isn't. America is run by influencers now.
hinkley•50m ago
And failed reality TV stars.
metabagel•42m ago
He’s a successful reality TV star, and he has turned our whole political system into a reality TV show.

I like to think that the job of the president is to take care of the nation’s business so most of the rest of us can get on with our lives, but Trump demands constant attention, and he continually invents emergencies which prevent us from being able to just go about our existence in peace.

The never-ending narcissistic distraction is exhausting.

hermitcrab•1h ago
Lawyers and accountants. Just look at the way that once great engineering companies like Boeing and Intel have been run into the ground by bean counters ('financialization').
fluidcruft•53m ago
I generally just have this growing opinion that capitalism is fundamentally about lawyers and accountants. Capital is ultimately nothing more than paper or numbers and worthless in the real world without lawyers and accountants.
terribleperson•47m ago
It's neither the accountants nor the lawyers, in my opinion. In my experience, both accountants and lawyers tend to be non-prescriptive - they tell you how things are, options, and likely outcomes.

The people responsible for taking those options and making the choices they do... business and finance.

NoboruWataya•35m ago
Muilenberg had an engineering background.
hn_throw_250926•56m ago
Old but good.
pessimizer•55m ago
It's the difference between people who understand that the physical world is real, and a bunch of innumerate conmen. Both of them might rob you, but the latter will often end up killing you both in the attempt.
baron816•53m ago
> Engineers, he explains, are driven to build while lawyers are driven to argue, and obstruct.

This is kind of the criticism that’s provided in Abundance. American Progressives intentionally made it extremely difficult to build anything by giving everyone a veto to block anything they don’t like.

There’s a lot of people on the Left (Center Left, at least) who want to revisit this approach and make it easier to build things again.

I also want to note that they point out that the current administration has a policy of scarcity. Even if we get rid of a lot of regulation, tariffs, deportations, and high government deficits make it hard to buy materials, hire labor, and finance projects.

fooker•47m ago
> There’s a lot of people on the Left

Great, I guess then it won’t be too difficult to name ..say.. five prominent politicians who have made this stance clear?

davidw•43m ago
The governor of Oregon, Tina Kotek, has been very pro-housing. She liked my 'legalize housing' hoodie so much she wanted a photo with it: https://bsky.app/profile/tinakotek.bsky.social/post/3lkea36k...
majormajor•41m ago
In California Gavin Newsome has talked it and signed some stuff loosening CEQA, we'll see what happens with SB79. As for four more - just grab some of the authors/supporters of SB79.
lkey•7m ago
Gavin Newsom is not a 'Leftist'. He destroyed a homeless encampment on camera. He would be mad you implied this. His first guest on his podcast was the late Charlie Kirk. Leftists I know have already sworn to never vote for him under any circumstance. Sincerely, how did you ever come to believe this?
righthand•43m ago
The bigger issue might be confusing “progressives” with “NIMBYs”. There are plenty of people across the political spectrum that want to build more as well as people blocking the building. Progressives particularly are aggressive on the desire for more housing. Literally to the point that Nyc and other large cities see huge handouts to developers (even when those developers continuously under deliver on affordable housing).
davidw•42m ago
The NIMBY/YIMBY divide really doesn't fall along traditional political lines. There are very progressive people who are raging NIMBYs, as well as very conservative NIMBYs. There are both progressive and conservative YIMBYs too.
majormajor•40m ago
Yeah, NIMBYism - especially in single-family-home neighborhoods - is huge in wealthy parts of Texas, Florida, etc.

(Not coincidentally, those are all less dense places, with less public transit and infrastructure, than the well-known progressive states and cities.)

righthand•37m ago
Exactly what I was saying, thanks for the clarification. It’s a blanket view point to blame progressives for the state of the Usa when we’ve been mostly moderate. Regardless of fault the views are shared across the spectrum on all sides.
linguae•21m ago
It depends on the progressive, however. Yes, I’m hearing more calls to build from progressives. However, for a long time between the 1960s until the past few years, there were two drivers of NIMBYism that progressives championed: (1) local control of neighborhoods and (2) environmentalism. The first was a reaction to urban development plans of the 1950s and 1960s that fundamentally reshaped neighborhoods, but often in ways that did not consider the residents of those neighborhoods. For example, San Francisco once had a historical Japanese American and African American district named The Fillmore with plenty of Victorian homes, but this was largely demolished in the 1960s and replaced with housing projects and a widened Geary Blvd. While I’m still on San Francisco, there were plans in the 1950s to build a network of freeways criss-crossing the city. This was deeply unpopular.

Unpopular plans to dramatically reshape urban cities led to “freeway revolts” (organized, grassroots opposition to freeway projects, which sometimes succeeded) and increased local input over planning. The second was brought on by environmental crises in the 1960s, such as badly polluted rivers and the famous oil spill near Santa Barbara. California, especially its coastal areas, was quite affected by both drivers of NIMBYism, and this became the dominant way of thinking from the 1970s onward.

Local control over neighborhoods sounds reasonable, but unfortunately it’s led to neighborhoods being museum pieces that do not scale upwards to meet demand, thus incentivizing urban sprawl. Restricting development had also significantly boosted the property values in those areas. However, urban sprawl directly conflicts with environmental goals, since it requires more transportation infrastructure and more energy to move people across longer distances than across shorter distances. Thus, we end up with situations where homes get built in far-flung exurbs whose politicians support growth (until the towns get large enough to where some residents want to halt growth to “preserve our quality of life,” thus pushing development to the next closest area friendly to development), environmentalists blocking road-widening and other infrastructure-improving efforts in an attempt to stop/discourage the sprawl, and NIMBYs blocking the construction of denser housing near job centers that could have provided affordable alternatives to exurban housing.

This has been the story of California since the 1970s, and the obscene housing prices and unsustainable mega-commutes are a result of this. Thankfully more people are seeing the consequences of 50 years of broken housing policy, and we’re finally seeing some efforts, even if they’re baby steps, to address this.

andy99•41m ago
Canada is like this (possibly worse). Nobody ever wants to do the ostensible thing that they say they are doing, if that makes sense.

Take some kind of government procurement, say to buy a truck. The truck ends up being a pretense for all sorts of political things like regional development or righting some perceived historical inequality, doing an environmental study, subsidising some industry that's not doing well. Nobody cares about actually getting the truck.

I can imagine a world where they just buy the best truck and don't try to make it a pretext for wealth redistribution and solving all the worlds problem, but I've never seen it.

Multiply this by every single things the government spends money on (and in canada the oligopolies as well) and you see why nothing happens.

regularization•39m ago
1% of people make decisions of what to build and how in any real sense. A movement ("abundance") to exclude the other 99% from having a say is not a left movement, the left is the opposite of that. Only in the US where class relations are so lopsided on the side of the heirs over the workers could that idea be called left.
trhway•34m ago
>American Progressives intentionally made it extremely difficult to build anything by giving everyone a veto to block anything they don’t like.

It is reaction to the old situation when interests of a small guy were completely tramped by the big guys - ie. the situation of private profits, public losses. And we can't go back to it.

The first step to move forward is to give everybody, whose interests are negatively impacted by a project, a stake in the project's benefits/profits. Ie. private profits - private losses, and public losses - public profits.

thrance•29m ago
The "Left" has never held any meaningful power in this country. Blaming the Progressives for this sad state of affairs is not only completely wrong, it's extremely disingenuous.

If you're speaking of the Democrats, they've been following the Neoliberalist playbook to the letter for decades: deregulate businesses, defund social programs, reduce taxes. This (the housing crisis) is the direct result of their half-competent technocratic stewardship of the economy. (And let's not spare the actually malevolent Republicans from sharing the blame in turning this land from an actual country into a billionaire's playground).

This "Abundance" movement is to be taken as a rebranding of the same tired and destructive Neoliberalist policies, and nothing else. It is ported by the same old people and politicians that have been slowly running this country to the ground. There is absolutely nothing new to be found in their manifestos: deregulate businesses, defund social programs, reduce taxes.

Housing can either be affordable or an investment vehicle, but not both at the same time. Actual leftists understand this very basic premise, but the astroturfed Abundance "movement" remains blind to it. Left-wing populism is slowly gaining ground in the face of an extremely complacent and ineffective Democratic establishment, and Abundance is a last-ditch effort to sold democratic voters on the same garbage they've been eating since the 1980s.

pnutjam•18m ago
The one thing Democrats and Republicans always agree on is "No Progressive's allowed".
metabagel•25m ago
It’s not progressives. It’s NIMBYism, which is cross-party.
jacquesm•16m ago
The USA has two right-of-center parties, and no credible left-of-center party. That they call it left and right is a massive misdirection and should not fool anybody, but unfortunately it does.
lkey•11m ago
The abundance folks are Reagan Era neolibs and conservatives. They want to 'revisit' an imagined past. The reality is they wish to retvrn to is the exact moment Reagan and Clinton broke the New Deal. We must first remake a Deal to break it once more, they're skipping steps.

Their proximate goals are to break the remaining unions and environmental protections we have, in service of the 'free market' which definitely is real and important. They want to give up on 'social issues' like access to reproductive care, medicare for all, and supporting the marginalized.

The speaker list includes the AEI, The Manhatten Institute, R street, Niskanen Center, etc...

American Leftists and Progressives do not hold power and the 'barriers' that abundance claims exist were put in place by those with power, not AOC or Zohran or whatever local cabal they point to in the book. Cherry-picking Austin as their exemplar is worth its own comment, but the book is frustrating across the board.

Klein has missed every moment of late and I expect the trend to continue.

Regardless, if your primary critique on a lawless and deeply authoritarian administration is their 'policy of scarcity', then you have utterly lost the plot. Mussolini made Italians grow and eat rice to induce a feeling of scarcity, there is no doubt, but that is not anyone's primary critique of his tyranny.

4ndrewl•51m ago
Is the answer "you only need lawyers if you don't live in a totalitarian state?"
syntaxing•44m ago
Odd lot has a good episode on him too!
NegativeK•43m ago
How do we have political topics in this forum without the discussions devolving into quick quips and rhetoric?
jopsen•42m ago
This is a tech forum, and we like to think engineers make the world.

But it's quite possible that the rule of law, capitalism, freedom, democracy, western institutions, etc. is what allows engineers to build stuff.

Technology advances when it is financed.

NoboruWataya•30m ago
Yes - full disclosure, I am a lawyer, so I am biased and perhaps sensitive about this stuff. But I see a lot of this kind of tribalism on HN. Engineers can do no wrong, lawyers and accountants can do no good.
tokioyoyo•18m ago
By the way, the main point of the book is “China needs more lawyerism, America needs less of it” if that makes you feel better. A lot of people seem like didn’t read it before discussing it, but a good chunk of it discusses problems in Chinese structure as well.
majormajor•36m ago
It's the same thing you see in companies. Once you have something built that is making you comfortable, you get complacent and protective. And there's nothing sexy about maintenance.

(For instance, China wants to build best-in-world industry and infra, which they didn't have before, but they are not running their government in a growth- or building- engineering-driven sense. Not a lot of move-fast-and-break-things iteration there! Lots of people comfortable and protective of that system.)

intalentive•35m ago
China is run by the state, which employs the engineers.

The West is run by finance capital, which employs the lawyers (and buys the politicians).

There was a post here a while back about engineering grads in the UK who couldn't get engineering jobs. So they ended up working for quant firms and banks instead.

Under neoliberalism the economy ends up oriented away from productive activity and toward rent-seeking and wealth transfers. Hence the growing gambling "industry", the pump and dump crypto scams (run by heads of state, no less), the legally protected private cartels like banking and medicine. We get people like Vivek Ramaswamy who became a billionaire while producing nothing of value.

Pinning these massive systemic issues on lawyers is frankly stupid. They are just one piece of the puzzle.

treis•34m ago
I don't think this is really true about either country. America builds plenty. When people talk about it not being able to build they really mean mass transit and to some extent certain types of housing in some areas. Everything else gets built just fine.
hollerith•33m ago
I agree. Also the US seems to be smarter about what to build: the US has not built cities the size of Manhattan that stand empty year after year like China has.
pengaru•32m ago
> When people talk about it not being able to build they really mean mass transit and to some extent certain types of housing in some areas. Everything else gets built just fine.

https://www.npr.org/2011/09/16/140515737/california-turns-to...

immediately comes to mind

tokioyoyo•21m ago
Theoretically you’re right. But having read the book, I agree with the general thesis. Things just move so much faster in China when it comes to making or building anything. Like I know firsthand people whose towns were converted from run-of-the-mill village to a T2 city in the span of a couple of decades. When hundreds of millions of people experience major change in their lives in front of their eyes, it’s a nit different than waiting for 5 years to start a new bridge across the river. I’m not even talking about factories, or policy course-corrections, or long-term goal settings either.

You can make a lot of arguments in this debate, but in terms of speed and execution, there’s a clear winner.

tayo42•29m ago
Its a long podcast, I'll respond to the title lol

But I would probably say America is run by mbas, not lawyers.

canjobear•26m ago
This is less because of any special attitude toward governance, and more because the only university degrees you could get during the Cultural Revolution were in engineering.
FergusArgyll•24m ago
That would be an indictment of engineers! luckily it's a silly caricature
tnt128•4m ago
A lot of people here focus on the political side of this topic, so I want to share from engineering perspective.

At the core, solving any problem really follows the same pattern: first you figure out what the problem is, then you set up a way to measure it, come up with a possible solution, and test it against your measurement. If it works, keep going. If it doesn’t, try something else. The key is just running this loop quickly enough. This process applies no matter what kind of problem you’re tackling — engineering or social issues.

The US has this loop at the company level. China has this loop at the local government level.

The central government decides what the goals are and how they are measured, and then the local governments carry out the implementation. Local officials who perform well against that measure get promoted.

If the U.S. really also wants to build this kind of feedback loop at the government level, voters need to judge election candidates based on their track record, not just campaign rhetoric. And for that to happen, you will need an educated population base with critical thinking skills.

I do want to add that China has been operating this way for thousands of years. It's not without problem,s however- like the old saying goes when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.

For example, GDP used to be the main measure of success. That led local governments to chase higher GDP numbers at all costs—regardless of whether the projects were actually practical or useful. This is leads to overbuilding, unnecessary construction etc.