Then there’s taking a selfie with Netanyahu.
Then there’s posting said selfie for the world to know.
What the f man.
Examples:
"The International Jew" - Henry Ford, BFF with Adolf Hitler.
Musk "Roman Salutes" more-or-less prove he wasn't able to overcome South Africa's apartheid hate ideology.
Hans Reiser - convicted murderer
Kip Macy & Nicole Macy - landlords from hell
Martin Shkreli - (no introduction necessary)
Impact and moral reputation/integrity are mostly orthogonal properties. It's the responsibility of decent people to rightly boycott crooks, warmongers, pedophiles, and ethno-nationalist suprematists. When this corrective moderation breaks-down, society is in deep shit.
They need a publicist, bad, to control this guy.
People like to act like this has never happened before, but the fact is it happens all the time throughout history. We like to think we are evolved past that, but we are not and unlikely to ever be at this point. The true nature of man is destructive, selfish, xenophobic and cruel.
After Israel is done with Gaza, we'll create some holiday that has children dressing up as Palestinians for first grade theater. Palestinians will become like Native Americans: scarce and marginalized. Because of the religious, ethnic and racial homogeneity of the Israeli people, its likely to be far worse than what settlers did to the Native population at the time.
Most people just don't care. If more did, it wouldn't be happening in the first place. Or at least those who are in power don't care and see human life as disposable.
20% of Israeli population (~2m) are palestinians. how do you factor this into "religious, ethnic and racial homogeneity of the Israeli".
There is a controversial world event. Regardless of which side you're on, everybody agrees that there are many people with strong opposing views. As a representative of a company, he should have stayed away from the topic as a whole, because getting involved with it is a PR nightmare with essentially zero upside.
Pure speculation from now on, but afaik Guillermo lives in the USA, and as the CEO of an international company I'm also surprised he's so tone deaf but it's not the only example (i.e. check Galperin's Twitter feed). I don't think it's about sending a message I think Guillermo probably follows Argentinian media/politics and fell for the echo chamber, he also wanted to look cool/important for Milei.
It has happened so so so many times, it’s naive at this point to believe the mod has no influence
It’s ridiculous that the biggest story on tech this minute has only 130 comments after 24 hours.
Make it make sense.
Do these people really think they will get away unscathed at this point in a few years?
"Hey remember that time you met with that guy that was running a genocide?"
People are trying to distance themselves from Epstein, saying they didn't know what he did. It ain't working and this is way worse.
But was it worth it? To burn all good will any upside to generating controversy?
Due to just the most recent DHH tirade, but a similarly long trend as with Guillermo: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
I got 3 different calls from some people today about Vercel and switching off of it, couldn't figure out why - they were spending upwards of 5k-10k/mo.
[0] https://x.com/amasad/status/1972805067771355518
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-30/vercel-no...
because right now flags are abused to suppress opinions that people simply don't agree with or to hide facts that counter to their worldview, even if they are backed with links to factual information.
## Executive Summary
This analysis demonstrates that Hacker News's (Y Combinator) official "no politics" policy actually constitutes a political choice that selectively structures which geopolitical topics can be discussed from a technological angle.
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## 1. HN's Official Policy
### Stated Rules - Most political, crime, or celebrity-related topics are considered "off-topic" - Exception: if they constitute "evidence of a new interesting phenomenon" - Declared focus: "what satisfies intellectual curiosity" in tech and startups - In 2016: organized a "political detox week" explicitly recognizing that "political conflicts cause harm here"
### Justification Avoid flamewars and maintain a constructive discussion space centered on technology.
---
## 2. Selective Application: Ukraine vs Gaza Case
### Ukraine (2022-2025): Significant Coverage
*Accepted and widely discussed topics:* - Ukraine's call to the hacker community (March 2022): major post, numerous comments - Cyberattacks and Russia-Ukraine cyber warfare - Hacktivism (Anonymous, etc.) - Technological infrastructure - Cybersecurity operations
*Implicit justification:* Clear and direct tech angle
### Gaza (2023-2025): Minimal Coverage
*Topics nearly absent despite obvious tech angle:* - Destruction of internet infrastructure in Gaza (rarely mentioned) - Military AI systems (see next section) - Impact on Palestinian tech workers - Vercel/Netanyahu controversy (tech CEO + Netanyahu)
*Result:* Even with obvious technical angles, low visibility or moderation
---
## 3. The Revealing Case: AI in Gaza
### Documented Israeli AI Systems
#### *"Lavender"* - *Function:* AI system listing tens of thousands of Palestinian men algorithmically identified as linked to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad - *Scale:* Approximately 37,000 Palestinians marked as suspected militants - *Use:* Target recommendations for strikes
#### *"The Gospel" (Habsora)* - *Function:* Rapid identification of combatants and equipment - *Official claim:* Reduces civilian casualties - *Use:* Target selection and prioritization
#### *"Where's Daddy?"* - *Function:* Determines when a target is at a specific location - *Documented use:* Target individuals when they are at home at night with their families
### Tech Relevance for HN
These systems check *all the boxes* of popular HN topics: - Cutting-edge artificial intelligence - Machine learning and automated decision systems - AI ethics (recurring HN topic) - Mass surveillance and data science - Questions about war automation - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias and errors
### Actual Presence on HN
- *Yes, there have been posts* (notably on Lavender in April 2024) - *But:* Limited visibility, restricted discussions - *Contrast:* Equivalent AI ethics topics elsewhere are widely debated
---
## 4. Other Examples of Selective Moderation
### Vercel Case (September 30, 2025)
*The facts:* - Vercel CEO (Guillermo Rauch) posts selfie with Benjamin Netanyahu - Private meeting on AI in New York - Consequences: employee resignations, client contract cancellations ($5,000-10,000/month)
*HN Relevance:* - Major company in dev ecosystem (Next.js, hosting) - Direct business impact on community - Questions about political engagement of tech CEOs - Documented economic consequences
*Result:* Limited or moderated discussions on HN
---
## 5. The Political Paradox of "No Politics"
### The Thesis
*"No politics" is itself a political position* that:
1. *Normalizes certain conflicts* (Ukraine = legitimate to discuss from tech angle) 2. *Marginalizes other conflicts* (Gaza = not legitimate even with obvious tech angle) 3. *Determines which violence is "tech"* and which is not 4. *Structures the field of the thinkable* in the tech community
### The Consequences
*What is made visible:* - Nation-state cyber warfare (if adversary = Russia) - AI ethics (except specific military applications) - Digital freedoms (Western context)
*What is made invisible:* - Actual use of AI for automated warfare - Impact of tech choices on civilian populations (non-Western context) - Responsibility of tech actors in conflicts
### The Structural Effect
By excluding Gaza under the pretext of "neutrality," HN: - Prevents the tech community from debating the actual use of its tools - Creates a blind spot on applied AI ethics - Implicitly privileges certain geopolitical narratives
---
## 6. Conclusion
### The Fundamental Contradiction
Hacker News claims to be "apolitical" while making editorial choices that: 1. Favor certain geopolitical angles 2. Marginalize other equally technically relevant angles 3. Prevent crucial ethical discussions about technology use
### The Irony
AI systems like Lavender, Gospel, and "Where's Daddy?" represent exactly the type of topic HN should cover intensively: - Automation of life-or-death decisions - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias - Developer responsibility
Yet these topics remain in moderation's blind spot.
### The Central Question
*Can we really separate "tech" and "politics" when technology itself has direct political consequences?*
HN moderation implicitly answers: yes, but only for certain geopolitical contexts.
---
## Sources and Dates
- HN moderation policy: 2016 (political detox week) - Ukraine call to hackers: March 2022 - Lavender revelations: April 2024 (existing but limited HN posts) - Vercel/Netanyahu affair: September 30, 2025 - Date of this analysis: October 2025
---
## Methodological Note
This analysis is based on: - Web research on HN coverage of different conflicts - Documentation of Israeli military AI systems - Comparison of topics with equivalent tech relevance - Observation of moderation patterns
*Limitation:* Impossibility to precisely quantify the number of deleted vs accepted posts (moderation data not public)
## Executive Summary
This analysis demonstrates that Hacker News's (Y Combinator) official "no politics" policy actually constitutes a political choice that selectively structures which geopolitical topics can be discussed from a technological angle.
---
## 1. HN's Official Policy
### Stated Rules - Most political, crime, or celebrity-related topics are considered "off-topic" - Exception: if they constitute "evidence of a new interesting phenomenon" - Declared focus: "what satisfies intellectual curiosity" in tech and startups - In 2016: organized a "political detox week" explicitly recognizing that "political conflicts cause harm here"
### Justification Avoid flamewars and maintain a constructive discussion space centered on technology.
---
## 2. Selective Application: Ukraine vs Gaza Case
### Ukraine (2022-2025): Significant Coverage
*Accepted and widely discussed topics:* - Ukraine's call to the hacker community (March 2022): major post, numerous comments - Cyberattacks and Russia-Ukraine cyber warfare - Hacktivism (Anonymous, etc.) - Technological infrastructure - Cybersecurity operations
*Implicit justification:* Clear and direct tech angle
### Gaza (2023-2025): Minimal Coverage
*Topics nearly absent despite obvious tech angle:* - Destruction of internet infrastructure in Gaza (rarely mentioned) - Military AI systems (see next section) - Impact on Palestinian tech workers - Vercel/Netanyahu controversy (tech CEO + Netanyahu)
*Result:* Even with obvious technical angles, low visibility or moderation
---
## 3. The Revealing Case: AI in Gaza
### Documented Israeli AI Systems
#### *"Lavender"* - *Function:* AI system listing tens of thousands of Palestinian men algorithmically identified as linked to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad - *Scale:* Approximately 37,000 Palestinians marked as suspected militants - *Use:* Target recommendations for strikes
#### *"The Gospel" (Habsora)* - *Function:* Rapid identification of combatants and equipment - *Official claim:* Reduces civilian casualties - *Use:* Target selection and prioritization
#### *"Where's Daddy?"* - *Function:* Determines when a target is at a specific location - *Documented use:* Target individuals when they are at home at night with their families
### Tech Relevance for HN
These systems check *all the boxes* of popular HN topics: - Cutting-edge artificial intelligence - Machine learning and automated decision systems - AI ethics (recurring HN topic) - Mass surveillance and data science - Questions about war automation - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias and errors
### Actual Presence on HN
- *Yes, there have been posts* (notably on Lavender in April 2024) - *But:* Limited visibility, restricted discussions - *Contrast:* Equivalent AI ethics topics elsewhere are widely debated
---
## 4. Other Examples of Selective Moderation
### Vercel Case (September 30, 2025)
*The facts:* - Vercel CEO (Guillermo Rauch) posts selfie with Benjamin Netanyahu - Private meeting on AI in New York - Consequences: employee resignations, client contract cancellations ($5,000-10,000/month)
*HN Relevance:* - Major company in dev ecosystem (Next.js, hosting) - Direct business impact on community - Questions about political engagement of tech CEOs - Documented economic consequences
*Result:* Limited or moderated discussions on HN
---
## 5. The Political Paradox of "No Politics"
### The Thesis
*"No politics" is itself a political position* that:
1. *Normalizes certain conflicts* (Ukraine = legitimate to discuss from tech angle) 2. *Marginalizes other conflicts* (Gaza = not legitimate even with obvious tech angle) 3. *Determines which violence is "tech"* and which is not 4. *Structures the field of the thinkable* in the tech community
### The Consequences
*What is made visible:* - Nation-state cyber warfare (if adversary = Russia) - AI ethics (except specific military applications) - Digital freedoms (Western context)
*What is made invisible:* - Actual use of AI for automated warfare - Impact of tech choices on civilian populations (non-Western context) - Responsibility of tech actors in conflicts
### The Structural Effect
By excluding Gaza under the pretext of "neutrality," HN: - Prevents the tech community from debating the actual use of its tools - Creates a blind spot on applied AI ethics - Implicitly privileges certain geopolitical narratives
---
## 6. Conclusion
### The Fundamental Contradiction
Hacker News claims to be "apolitical" while making editorial choices that: 1. Favor certain geopolitical angles 2. Marginalize other equally technically relevant angles 3. Prevent crucial ethical discussions about technology use
### The Irony
AI systems like Lavender, Gospel, and "Where's Daddy?" represent exactly the type of topic HN should cover intensively: - Automation of life-or-death decisions - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias - Developer responsibility
Yet these topics remain in moderation's blind spot.
### The Central Question
*Can we really separate "tech" and "politics" when technology itself has direct political consequences?*
HN moderation implicitly answers: yes, but only for certain geopolitical contexts.
---
## Sources and Dates
- HN moderation policy: 2016 (political detox week) - Ukraine call to hackers: March 2022 - Lavender revelations: April 2024 (existing but limited HN posts) - Vercel/Netanyahu affair: September 30, 2025 - Date of this analysis: October 2025
---
## Methodological Note
This analysis is based on: - Web research on HN coverage of different conflicts - Documentation of Israeli military AI systems - Comparison of topics with equivalent tech relevance - Observation of moderation patterns
*Limitation:* Impossibility to precisely quantify the number of deleted vs accepted posts (moderation data not public)
pbiggar•4mo ago
I feel like I'm losing my mind here.
mdhb•4mo ago
emaro•4mo ago