Meme stock...
Electric cars were seen as a leftist thing a few years back. If (again, as a non American) you asked me what the average car of a right wing American was, I’d say a ginormous pick up truck with a V8 ICE engine or something like that. Did that kind of person really start buying Teslas due to Musk’s close ties with the current US administration? I can’t see that. I also can’t see leftist American people buying Teslas due to environmental reasons alone despite of Musk either. So who’s buying those cars?
Purely anecdotical but I know at least one person who was going to buy a Tesla and he didn’t do it purely because of Musk. Also, the only time I got inside a Tesla was in a Cabify that took me to the airport (model 3), smooth ride but the interior was that of a cheap car from 10 years ago.
Just regular average people. EVs are just better than ICE cars, as long as you have charging infrastructure. And Tesla has it.
I guess they publish this in advance in an effort to persuade other shareholders to vote similarly?
Yes. Plainly apparent IMO.
The conclusion-paragraph ends with
“As such, we urge Tesla shareholder to vote against all directors as well as Proposals 3 and 4 at the November 6th annual meeting.”
I've stopped recommending Tesla to people, despite driving one. The company is way too unpredictable and unstable.
Genuinely curious where this is? It's not anywhere on the US Interstate Highway network for sure (OK, fine maybe there are a handful of 120 mile stretches here and there). There are holes in the middle of the interior west, but you have to work really hard to get 100 miles from a supercharger.
I mean, there are always legitimate criticisms to be made, but the breadth of the charging network is... quite frankly the best in the world?
https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/elon-musk-pigeon-ceo-former-t...
Tesla has been underperforming for a long time. If we look back to 2021, at that time Tesla had the best battery tech in the world (maybe not on the cell level, but definitely when looking at the system as a whole), the best-performing drivetrain, and generally OK cars.
Fast-forward 5 years, and Tesla's bread-and-butter Model 3 and Model Y are still using essentially the same battery tech. The range has not increased, and the cars themselves are barely any different with only some cosmetic updates. The infotaiment system is rapidly aging, and the cars lack advanced features like vehicle-to-grid.
The FSD has not materialized, and Tesla is likely on hook for billions in upgrades/refunds to pre-2019 car owners for the promised upgrades.
Other Tesla products are less than stellar. Tesla Semi has essentially disappeared, Cybertruck is barely selling (just around 4000 units in Q2!), Model 2 was canceled, and solar is essentially dead.
The battery storage is the only area that is growing robustly with a good profit margin. But Tesla doesn't have any moat there, and competitors (like BYD) are quickly catching up.
They state this as if it’s a problem, but it’s a fantastic thing for the company and the stock.
In the counterfactual world where the board did not do this and Musk left, Tesla would be way worse off. There’s also the theory that a new board could treat Musk badly or cut him loose and the company would do better, but I don’t buy that for a second. Put plainly, delusion runs rampant among Musk haters and that must be the reason this letter even exists. Or, some of them may be shorting and trying to avoid the day of reckoning.
And sure, his outspoken personality turns off a lot of people, but that is in the noise compared to the positive execution impacts he has.
Elon Musk's $1T pay plan faces pushback from investors, state officials
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/elon-m...
timzaman•1h ago
It also fails to completely mention Tesla stock's currently at an all time high.
preisschild•1h ago
So Tesla is not a car manufacturer, but a cult of personality?
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Veserv•1h ago
He currently directly shares 12% of the growth of Tesla, far more than most executive teams which are viewed to be adequately aligned with far less ownership. Claiming there is no incentive to perform is nonsensical and incoherent.
orionsbelt•56m ago
Veserv•40m ago
You are getting confused by the fact that this class of profit sharing agreement can be easily sold for its expected net present value of all future cash flows and that they frequently retain earnings in tax advantaged forms instead of directly distributing their generated income in highly taxed forms.
scrollop•1h ago
He's a liability.