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Cleverness or Reps

https://twitter.com/jeremygiffon/status/1974960094468002074
1•jger15•27s ago•0 comments

Power to the People: Plug-In Solar Now Legal in Utah Homes – CleanTechnica

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/09/power-to-the-people-plug-in-solar-now-legal-in-utah-homes/
1•bilsbie•1m ago•0 comments

Universal Tool Calling Protocol (UTCP)

https://www.utcp.io/
1•mooreds•1m ago•0 comments

Fast, Cheap, Good: Choose Three

https://cory.news/posts/2025-09-30-disposable/
1•mooreds•2m ago•0 comments

Is the Human Washing Machine of Our Dreams Becoming a Reality?

https://spoon-tamago.com/osaka-expo-human-washing-machine/
1•zdw•3m ago•0 comments

The Price of Tomorrow

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2025/10/23/the-price-of-tomorrow-discounting-the-future-doganova/
1•mitchbob•4m ago•1 comments

Ken Parker, famed luthier, has passed

https://kenparkerarchtops.com
3•dagmx•6m ago•1 comments

I built a minimalist Jekyll theme inspired by Fabien Sanglard's website

https://github.com/lvntky/low
1•leventkaya•9m ago•0 comments

The agony and ecstasy of restoring a Fra Angelico masterpiece

https://www.ft.com/content/87d4dcfe-f66a-4aad-bba9-394e9fc77c1d
1•bookofjoe•10m ago•1 comments

How AI is shaking up the study of earthquakes

https://www.understandingai.org/p/how-ai-is-shaking-up-the-study-of
1•CharlesW•10m ago•0 comments

L5 Nation

https://l5nation.com/
1•Olshansky•16m ago•0 comments

Serial Focus

https://play.teod.eu/serial-focus/
1•teodorlu•19m ago•0 comments

Who Exactly Is a "Real Chemist"?

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/who-exactly-real-chemist
1•kumarski•21m ago•0 comments

Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux

https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/
2•sedatk•23m ago•0 comments

Fast Opera Wallet Bitcoin Carding Method And#8211; CC to BTC 2025

https://cardingsecrets.is/opera-wallet-bitcoin-carding-method/
1•Gollyxx•27m ago•0 comments

Say Goodbye

https://www.mooreds.com/wordpress/archives/3717
2•zdw•31m ago•0 comments

Halt and Catch Fire (Computing)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire_(computing)
1•fidotron•31m ago•0 comments

A War in the Lake District: Greggs, the Lake Poets, Storm Amy, Cycling, Sheep

https://chillphysicsenjoyer.substack.com/p/a-war-in-the-lake-district
1•crescit_eundo•31m ago•0 comments

Waffles Eat Bluesky

https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/
1•minimaxir•31m ago•0 comments

The dangerous intimacy of social location sharing

https://joinreboot.org/p/lighthouses-in-the-sky
11•FromTheArchives•33m ago•4 comments

Don't outsource your critical thinking: human-centred design in the age of AI

https://hyprinnovation.io/our-thoughts/don-t-outsource-your-critical-thinking-human-centred-desig...
1•mooreds•34m ago•0 comments

Advice from nixCraft

https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/113524310004145896
1•cs702•37m ago•0 comments

Endless Sunlight, Endless Costs: The Economic Reality of Space Solar Power

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/10/04/endless-sunlight-endless-costs-the-economic-reality-of-space...
3•NoobMaxxing•42m ago•0 comments

Scientists want to treat complex bone fractures with a bone-healing gun

https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/09/scientists-want-to-treat-complex-bone-fractures-with-a-bo...
1•PaulHoule•45m ago•0 comments

Standalone Hulu is dead, long live 'Hulu on Disney+'

https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/10/04/standalone-hulu-is-dead-long-live-hulu-on-disney
1•indigodaddy•46m ago•0 comments

OpenEvidence: The AI Assistant Doctors Say Is a 'Game Changer' [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hOpirB-V6k
1•mgh2•48m ago•1 comments

My Writing Environment as a Software Engineer

https://elijahpotter.dev/articles/my_writing_environment_as_a_software_engineer
2•chilipepperhott•48m ago•0 comments

Master the Art of AI Creativity: Why the Right Prompts Matter in Midjourney

https://infoalltec.com/en/midjourney-prompt-guide/
1•bassamhameed•48m ago•1 comments

Wine 10.16 (Dev) – Run Windows Applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and macOS

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/releases/wine-10.16
6•neustradamus•50m ago•1 comments

Free 900 ATS Friendly Resume Templates – WahResume – Notion Style Editor

https://www.wahresume.com/resume-templates
1•johnumarattil•53m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Dear Tesla Shareholder [pdf]

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d374de8aae9940001c8ed59/t/68de828992aced27fc2d217c/1759412874017/TSLA+Vote+No_Oct_2025_Final.pdf
22•doener•2h ago

Comments

timzaman•1h ago
Ridiculous and biased article. Elon gets ZERO compensation if Tesla doesn't do stellar performance. Any tesla shareholder knows how Tesla is structured (Elon-focused) so just don't buy the stocks if you don't like Elon.

It also fails to completely mention Tesla stock's currently at an all time high.

preisschild•1h ago
> Any tesla shareholder knows how Tesla is structured (Elon-focused) so just don't buy the stocks if you don't like Elon.

So Tesla is not a car manufacturer, but a cult of personality?

neogodless•1h ago
Tesla is a car manufacturer, but Tesla stock valuations are not based on that fact.
JumpinJack_Cash•1h ago
This makes me think that executives in the manufacturing sector should be paid in kind AKA in product, if that is the hot stuff that they claim they'd have zero problems selling the product on the secondary market and collect dollars
xmprt•1h ago
The US has some broken incentives where if a small company fails then it hurts the shareholders but if a large company fails, it's "too big to fail" and ends up getting bailed out by the government. That's why it's worrying how Tesla is growing unsustainably. If the risk pays off then shareholders reap the benefits but if it crashes and burns then everyone takes a hit.
ralph84•1h ago
The automakers that got bailed out had large unionized workforces and franchised dealer networks, both of which are very politically active and neither of which Tesla has.
Veserv•1h ago
Elon Musk currently owns 12% of Tesla. Claiming he gets “ZERO compensation” outside of stellar performance is nonsense. If Tesla actually reached a 8T dollar valuation his net worth would increase to 1T dollars without any additional grants or investor dilution.

He currently directly shares 12% of the growth of Tesla, far more than most executive teams which are viewed to be adequately aligned with far less ownership. Claiming there is no incentive to perform is nonsensical and incoherent.

orionsbelt•56m ago
He may be incentivized, but it is not “compensation” if he already owns it IMO.
Veserv•40m ago
So if I get 12% of the profit from music sales that is not “compensation”? Share ownership is, at its foundation, a profit (and asset) sharing agreement.

You are getting confused by the fact that this class of profit sharing agreement can be easily sold for its expected net present value of all future cash flows and that they frequently retain earnings in tax advantaged forms instead of directly distributing their generated income in highly taxed forms.

scrollop•1h ago
Well, he should be getting a negative amount considering how his actions have effected the stock price.

He's a liability.

tzm•1h ago
This letter sounds like it's written by an activist, not an investor.
worik•1h ago
An activist investor, hopefully for Tesla's sake
perrohunter•1h ago
I was thinking the same thing, a lot of people have an interest in Tesla failing, no surprise here
belter•1h ago
Revenue is flat last three years, profits halved, margins crushed and there will be no profits without the EV credit...Valuation still priced like 2021...

Meme stock...

Xenoamorphous•1h ago
Genuine question as someone not from the US, who’s the average new Tesla owner these days?

Electric cars were seen as a leftist thing a few years back. If (again, as a non American) you asked me what the average car of a right wing American was, I’d say a ginormous pick up truck with a V8 ICE engine or something like that. Did that kind of person really start buying Teslas due to Musk’s close ties with the current US administration? I can’t see that. I also can’t see leftist American people buying Teslas due to environmental reasons alone despite of Musk either. So who’s buying those cars?

Purely anecdotical but I know at least one person who was going to buy a Tesla and he didn’t do it purely because of Musk. Also, the only time I got inside a Tesla was in a Cabify that took me to the airport (model 3), smooth ride but the interior was that of a cheap car from 10 years ago.

cyberax•1h ago
> Genuine question as someone not from the US, who’s the average new Tesla owner these days?

Just regular average people. EVs are just better than ICE cars, as long as you have charging infrastructure. And Tesla has it.

natch•29m ago
It’s the overlap on the Venn diagram of people who have driven one and people who think for themselves.
rsolva•1h ago
From what I can gather, the institutional shareholders that has signed this letter controls about 1-2% of the Tesla shares (roughly). Add the Norwegian Oil Fund to the mix, which will likely vote similarly and has roughly the same voting power, and we are up to 2-4%. That seems quite small.

I guess they publish this in advance in an effort to persuade other shareholders to vote similarly?

throw-qqqqq•53m ago
> I guess they publish this in advance in an effort to persuade other shareholders to vote similarly?

Yes. Plainly apparent IMO.

The conclusion-paragraph ends with

    “As such, we urge Tesla shareholder to vote against all directors as well as Proposals 3 and 4 at the November 6th annual meeting.”
natch•24m ago
I wonder how much they own in legacy auto and oil & gas.
827a•1h ago
While I may only own a small part of Tesla, as a customer of their's, I want nothing more than the company to get rid of Elon and just become a normal, better car company. While they yell about driverless cabs and robots that can serve popcorn to you, none of the music apps have gapless playback. There's multiple stretches of 100+ miles of highway around me that have no supercharging capability, and dozens upon dozens of major population centers that need to travel 150+ miles to get to a service center. You can get the Model Y in any color you want, as long as the color you want is one of the five colors it's always been available in. These and more are all real problems that they could improve to be a better car company; but they're obsessed with constantly leapfrogging themselves and throwing away every customer they've ever won, because now they're an energy company, wait no, they're a robotics company...

I've stopped recommending Tesla to people, despite driving one. The company is way too unpredictable and unstable.

ajross•59m ago
> There's multiple stretches of 100+ miles of highway around me that have no supercharging capability

Genuinely curious where this is? It's not anywhere on the US Interstate Highway network for sure (OK, fine maybe there are a handful of 120 mile stretches here and there). There are holes in the middle of the interior west, but you have to work really hard to get 100 miles from a supercharger.

I mean, there are always legitimate criticisms to be made, but the breadth of the charging network is... quite frankly the best in the world?

orionsbelt•58m ago
Fair points as a customer, but I think a stockholder would much rather Elon focus on robotics than gapless music playback.
breve•5m ago
Or just make better EVs. Tesla's not that competitive in charge speeds these days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy46Ag0djjk

sakopov•43m ago
If Elon leaves, Tesla is cooked. Tesla nosedives every time his focus is on something else which is what's happened since he purchased Twitter, became a political activist and then left to work with Trump. The only reason Tesla trades at such high valuation is because of Elon and the cult following he built around the vision for the company. As soon as he's out of there the stock will lose all of its premium. Institutional investors like Ron Baron who are open supporters of Elon's vision will leave and the business will go to carmaker-like or negative margins. There is absolutely no evidence that Tesla can function at all without Elon but there is plenty of it floundering when he's not focused on it.
breve•17m ago
Musk's focus is always on something else. He doesn't work much at Tesla anymore. Tesla employees call him a "pigeon CEO":

https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/elon-musk-pigeon-ceo-former-t...

cyberax•1h ago
I used to have a lot invested in Tesla, but I sold all my shares 2 years ago. I just don't think that their valuation is justified at the current price. So it can crash and burn at any moment.

Tesla has been underperforming for a long time. If we look back to 2021, at that time Tesla had the best battery tech in the world (maybe not on the cell level, but definitely when looking at the system as a whole), the best-performing drivetrain, and generally OK cars.

Fast-forward 5 years, and Tesla's bread-and-butter Model 3 and Model Y are still using essentially the same battery tech. The range has not increased, and the cars themselves are barely any different with only some cosmetic updates. The infotaiment system is rapidly aging, and the cars lack advanced features like vehicle-to-grid.

The FSD has not materialized, and Tesla is likely on hook for billions in upgrades/refunds to pre-2019 car owners for the promised upgrades.

Other Tesla products are less than stellar. Tesla Semi has essentially disappeared, Cybertruck is barely selling (just around 4000 units in Q2!), Model 2 was canceled, and solar is essentially dead.

The battery storage is the only area that is growing robustly with a good profit margin. But Tesla doesn't have any moat there, and competitors (like BYD) are quickly catching up.

vvpan•46m ago
21st century, where a CEO of a major company doing Nazi salutes is not enough to fire him. How did we get here?
natch•38m ago
>the Board remains fixated on pleasing Mr. Musk

They state this as if it’s a problem, but it’s a fantastic thing for the company and the stock.

In the counterfactual world where the board did not do this and Musk left, Tesla would be way worse off. There’s also the theory that a new board could treat Musk badly or cut him loose and the company would do better, but I don’t buy that for a second. Put plainly, delusion runs rampant among Musk haters and that must be the reason this letter even exists. Or, some of them may be shorting and trying to avoid the day of reckoning.

And sure, his outspoken personality turns off a lot of people, but that is in the noise compared to the positive execution impacts he has.

ChrisArchitect•4m ago
Coverage:

Elon Musk's $1T pay plan faces pushback from investors, state officials

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/elon-m...