They will get all the data. Not only voice, data and SMS/RCS.
All modern smartphones (like Pixels) allow you to switch off 2G. They even warn if you want to activate it.
They may not want to leave a paper trail.
“To obtain a [legal] wiretap order, law enforcement must demonstrate probable cause to a judge” [1]. Given ICE has been arresting Americans, they probably aren’t bothering with cause. Legal intercepts also require “minimization procedures to limit the interception of conversations unrelated to the investigation,” which ICE may not want to do. And perhaps most importantly, “violations of 18 U.S.C. § 2511 are considered federal felonies,” with those convicted facing criminal penalties and being subject to civil liability.
I hate to make this analogy, but it’s akin to the Gestapo’s NBH obsession. They knew they were acting illegally, and didn’t want to leave the evidence that would convict them.
[1] https://legalclarity.org/what-is-wiretapping-and-when-is-it-...
https://github.com/EFForg/rayhunter
which pairs nicely with a
https://www.amazon.com/Orbic-Verizon-Hotspot-Connect-Enabled...
It works on iOS devices without any extra hardware, even on non jailbroken devices, by analyzing baseband debug logs exported by the OS.
leakycap•2h ago
IMSI catchers/stingrays have been common practice in local law enforcement for decades, haven't they? How is this different?
> Some cell-site simulators can also intercept regular calls, text messages, and internet traffic.
In what decade was this true, other than text messages? I don't think it is very easy even for an IMSI catcher/stingray to eavesdrop on calls over LTE, for example.
hedora•2h ago
They're doing this over the objection of state and local authorities, and despite the fact that their actions have been repeatedly ruled illegal by the courts.
cosmicgadget•1h ago
JumpCrisscross•1h ago
In general, particularly in the past, yes. Currently, a statistically significant number of ICE agents are acting outside the colour of law, in some cases with possibly treasonous intent.
cosmicgadget•1m ago
What actions are you referring to and what is the treasonous intent? They seem to just be self-selected xenophobes trying to chase bonus money.
softwaredoug•7m ago
A lot of things are legal and still wrong based on our core principles as a country. Its our duty to oppose them.
code_runner•1m ago
Missing a court date once multiple years ago, failing to navigate a complex process, and even intentionally over staying a tourist visa does not warrant the loss of humanity, due process, basic rights, dignity, and humanity
vuggamie•23m ago
softwaredoug•2m ago
Stingrays are somewhat it common practice. But they force every device to attach to look for the one they want. And its reasonable to feel queasy about that for any number of reasons.