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Everything Is Becoming a Bank

https://jacobin.com/2025/10/bankification-financialization-debt-interest-credit/
19•colinprince•1h ago

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pavel_lishin•1h ago
> More Americans than ever are in debt to their nearby grocery store due to predatory “buy now, pay later” loans offered during checkout.

I've seen this when checking out online, but never in my local grocery stores.

edflsafoiewq•1h ago
Typically you'd also be in debt to the BNPL provider, not the merchant.
legitster•56m ago
This only exists if you are using delivery services like instacart.

Which suggests a wild scenario that people can't afford groceries but are using a luxury service to buy and deliver them.

"It was the best of times - it was the worst of times"

garbawarb•7m ago
Is that predatory? Can't you just decline the offer?
spookybones•1h ago
My partner convinced me to use the Starbucks app for incentives. Unsurprisingly within months, the company doubled the points requirements for all rewards. I now have a dollar and change held hostage on it, but refuse to keep topping it up. I imagine there are many people in my situation.
gruez•36m ago
>Unsurprisingly within months, the company doubled the points requirements for all rewards.

Surely that was a coincidence? The most I could find was grumblings about the program changing back in 2019[1], but so far as I can tell it stayed the same since then. I agree points devaluations are bad, but people aren't storing their life savings in them, and the "cost" of those points are basically zero, so I'm not sure what the hand-wringing over them is about.

[1] https://www.areweadultsyet.com/2019/03/19/maximizing-the-new...

grues-dinner•34m ago
Once upon a time, 1 pence was one point (I don't recall which supermarket). Now you get 2 Nectar points per pound. I do remember my parents grumbling when it went to 1 point per two pence.

The supermarkets have gotten wise to people realising points and vouchers are scams that almost never pay out substantially and have instead started punishment pricing for people who don't opt into data collection, sorry, loyalty cards.

gruez•25m ago
>The supermarkets have gotten wise to people realising points and vouchers are scams that almost never pay out substantially for loyalty

It's called a "loyalty" program but there was hardly any "loyalty" to begin with. The points basically translate into a discount of <1%, and you get them whether you hop between stores for the best deal, or only shop at their place. The best way of thinking of them is a price discrimination scheme to rope in price-conscious shoppers.

>and have instead started punishment pricing for people who don't opt into data collection, sorry, loyalty cards.

From a numeric perspective the two are identical.

grues-dinner•53m ago
One more step in the long road forecast by the prophet Stross to singularity via deconstructing the solar system for computronium in which to run financial transactions.
gruez•41m ago
The first section of the article is riddled with errors or misleading statements that it's hard to take the rest of it seriously.

>Starbucks holds nearly $2 billion of customers’ money in its rewards program. That’s more than the total deposits managed by 85 percent of chartered banks, making the coffee chain one of the biggest financial institutions in the country.

Only in the sense that the US has thousands of banks, most of which are tiny. According to https://www.mx.com/blog/biggest-us-banks-by-deposits/, there are 4462 banks in the US. Starbuck's "nearly 2 billion" makes them so small it's not even in the top 250. You'd really have to stretch the truth to call that "one of the biggest financial institutions".

>More Americans than ever are in debt to their nearby grocery store due to predatory “buy now, pay later” loans offered during checkout.

>And if you can’t pay your rent on time, it could soon become common for your apartment building owner to lend you the money, putting you in debt to your landlord.

As others have mentioned, the debt is issued by the BNPL provider, not the grocery store or landlord. The article makes no effort to argue how it's any different than credit cards.

Skimming the rest of the sections, it's unclear what author actually wants. The article starts off lamenting how high of a margin payments networks have, but then lambasts challengers for setting up networks try to disrupt them.

Retunnel – free ngrok alternative (Python)

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2•rodmena•3m ago•0 comments

No more loud commercials: Governor Newsom signs SB 576

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/10/06/no-more-loud-commercials-governor-newsom-signs-sb-576/
2•mikhael•3m ago•0 comments

From Barking Hellhounds to AI Slop: What Electronic Music Foretells About GenAI

https://words.narain.io/from-barking-hellhounds-to-ai-slop-what-electronic-music-foretells-about-...
1•ZeljkoS•9m ago•0 comments

Development Gets Better with Age

https://www.allthingsdistributed.com/2025/10/better-with-age.html
1•herbertl•10m ago•0 comments

You don't need an AI agent framework, or why frameworks are the new Juicero

https://konvu.com/blog/konvupero-agent-framework
1•paulbleicher•10m ago•0 comments

UX Entropy: Zoom's arc from hero to hulk

https://allenpike.com/2025/ux-entropy
1•herbertl•11m ago•0 comments

The new and best way to execute Java/Kotlin

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1•sunnykentz•12m ago•1 comments

Amazon EC2 Instance Attestation

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1•Judson•13m ago•0 comments

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Generate landing page for your mobile app in minutes

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1•PaulFalcon•14m ago•0 comments

Japanese platform DLsite unveils payment system after Visa and Mastercard bans

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2•haunter•16m ago•0 comments

Boox's next smartphone-sized e-reader has a color screen and a stylus

https://www.theverge.com/news/794751/onyx-boox-p6-pro-e-ink-reader-smartphone-color-palma
3•tortilla•20m ago•0 comments

A MCP server to find information about standards (finalized and draft)

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1•mooreds•21m ago•0 comments

Zero Standing Privilege: Marginal Improvement on the Wrong Paradigm

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1•mooreds•22m ago•1 comments

Fast Matrix Multiply on an Apple GPU

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1•Archit3ch•24m ago•0 comments

Catch unsafe Rails migrations in development

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1•mooreds•25m ago•0 comments

Nanoparticles help removing Alzheimer's buildup

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-025-02426-1
2•rippeltippel•26m ago•1 comments

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3•impish9208•29m ago•1 comments

Fast, constant-time, correct: pick three – Daniel J. Bernstein [pdf]

https://cr.yp.to/talks/2025.10.07/slides-djb-20251007-pickthree-4x3.pdf
1•nabla9•29m ago•0 comments

Konrad Zuse's Helix Tower [pdf]

https://www.iaarc.org/publications/fulltext/The_helix-tower_by_konrad_zuse_automated_con-_and_dec...
1•xg15•31m ago•1 comments

Python 3.14: Free threaded Python is here

https://blog.python.org/2025/10/python-3140-final-is-here.html
4•wavelander•32m ago•1 comments

Oilfield Units: a measurement system so cursed it made me change career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc
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Show HN: Gossip: Email-to-Webhook Bridge

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Free CDN for open-source projects

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3•mustaphah•36m ago•1 comments

Denmark plans social media ban for under-15s

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/07/danish-pm-plans-to-ban-social-media-for-under-15s-w...
6•2OEH8eoCRo0•36m ago•0 comments

Different mushrooms learned the same psychedelic trick

https://theconversation.com/how-different-mushrooms-learned-the-same-psychedelic-trick-266401
4•gmays•39m ago•0 comments

Supercritical subsurface fluids open a window into the world

https://phys.org/news/2025-09-supercritical-subsurface-fluids-window-world.html
2•PaulHoule•39m ago•0 comments

Culture

https://danielpaul.cz/
2•kwoii•41m ago•0 comments

The CRM personality mismatch (and a fix)

1•vedranXYZ•42m ago•0 comments

Beyond the SQLite Single-Writer Limitation with Concurrent Writes

https://turso.tech/blog/beyond-the-single-writer-limitation-with-tursos-concurrent-writes
2•syrusakbary•43m ago•0 comments