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PWA Browser Scorecards

https://pwascore.com/
71•CharlesW•2h ago

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willsmith72•2h ago
I'm still so pissed at how Apple continues to hamstring PWAs to push their own platform. Can't wait for the day their app store era is over and something actually user-focused is prevalent
cutler•1h ago
HarmonyoS has started the ball rolling.
adamhartenz•1h ago
HarmonyOS started it? What? Not Android?
01HNNWZ0MV43FF•1h ago
Oh cool, I was wondering about this.

Is there not much PWA stuff for desktop or... does it not matter since you can just pin tabs?

dankwizard•1h ago
Because they'd rather wrap it in Electron and farm system telemetry at that point.
CharlesW•1h ago
I think comparisons with desktop browsers will be interesting! I intend to make this configurable and let people choose browsers and browser versions, including desktop browsers.
candiddevmike•16m ago
PWAs work well on Desktops, you can install them on Chrome etc and they show up as native apps in Linux and Windows (opening in a chrome window, minus any address bar etc, at least). If you already have a PWA, I don't know what Electron would give you.

You can also ship PWAs on the Microsoft Store and allow Windows 11 folks to natively install them (for an example/shameless plug: https://homechart.app).

8cvor6j844qw_d6•1h ago
Are there any popular PWA-only apps without a mobile app counterpart?

File-sharing services (e.g., sharedrop?) seems to be some of them but I'm not sure if its popular in terms of usage.

chocolatkey•1h ago
It's somewhat popular for piracy, when you know that your site could never pass the Apple/Google store reviews. I've seen it with, for example, manga aggregators
candiddevmike•18m ago
There are a lot of PWAs packaged as mobile apps, probably more than you realize. Google makes this pretty seamless with TWAs, and you can use Capacitor/Cordova on iOS. You can even connect/write your own JavaScript interfaces to native APIs.

FWIW, in the US, PWAs are a non-starter for most apps due to Apple having so much marketshare and having horrendous UX for installing them. Anytime you have to provide your users "instructions" to do something on iOS, you've lost (and it's by design).

gabrielhfrn•1h ago
I’ve always thought it funny how PWAs were pushed by Apple of all people in the beginning. Nowadays they might as well not exists for iOS/macOS
gregsadetsky•1h ago
Reminds me of this very, very classic/epic post [0] by John Carmack on this very topic. Definitely worth a (re-)read.

  Steve first talked about application development for iPhone at the same keynote I was demonstrating the new ID Tech 5 rendering engine on Mac, so I was in the front row. When he started going on about “Web Apps”, I was (reasonably quietly) going “Booo!!!”.

  After the public cleared out and the rest of us were gathered in front of the stage, I started urgently going on about how web apps are terrible, and wouldn’t show the true potential of the device. We could do so much more with real native access!

  Steve responded with a line he had used before: “Bad apps could bring down cell phone towers.” I hated that line. He could have just said “We aren’t ready”, and that would have been fine.
(read the whole thing, for real).

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/8l9qw2/comment/dzdwc...

staplers•1h ago
Why is Firefox marked as "unknown" for many easily findable settings/capabilities? (Ex: https requirement)

This feels like a chrome ad

CharlesW•1h ago
Firefox has the same number of "Unknown" capabilities as Chrome and Safari. These are items which aren't tracked in Can I Use or MDN, and I intend to resolve those ASAP. (I appreciate you calling me out on that.)
SigmundA•1h ago
Tabbed Application Mode is really supported across all three?

I know Chrome / Edge kept having issues with it being behind experimental flag and even the flag breaking and going away between builds.

Never heard of Safari supporting tabbed mode for PWA's

This is probably the biggest issue for me with PWA's windows.open actually opening a new full OS window sucks rather than a built in native tab strip.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web...

CharlesW•1h ago
> Tabbed Application Mode is really supported across all three?

It is not, thank you. Fixed!

abrookewood•1h ago
Looks pretty cool. Some comments on usability, It would be handy to see a visual indicator of which capabilities where missing from each browser - maybe you could colour each section heading Green or Red? It would also be handy if you could toggle all open/closed.
bigiain•59m ago
It might not be the objective of the owner of that site, but what I'd really like is an updated/maintained subset of what PWA features/components are usable across a selection of browsers - like iOS Safari and stock Android Chrome, Or Chrome/Safari/Firefox on desktop (perhaps filterable by OS too)?
coastalpuma•1h ago
I can easily imagine a world where you could install an open source PWA from an archive file into its own security sandbox without any further hoops to jump through, and it continues to just work indefinitely because the web has very good backwards compatibility guarantees. Instead, we have to get licensed and notarized by the monopolies and they keep you on a constant treadmill of drudgery just to stay up to date. Or you install somebody else's monopoly-approved "legitimate business" app which steals or leaks your data. Sad!
candiddevmike•12m ago
> the web has very good backwards compatibility guarantees

Kinda... Google and folks have been cracking down on security pretty hard, to the point where certain things would probably stop working if you weren't maintaining the security of the endpoint or something correctly. There are APIs (more and more everyday it seems...) that only work with "secure contexts" like HTTPS, and they're working actively on tightening HTTPS requirements (like shortening certificate lifetimes, valid ciphers etc). Sure, this helps improve security, but not without breaking compatibility.

iambateman•1h ago
The fact that iOS safari supports SO many lifecycle features except BeforeInstallPrompt is just so frustrating.

You can feel the dev team trying to get as close as they can without shooting their golden goose App Store.

So many apps could be PWA…and we could expect so much more from the median PWA.

twism•50m ago
This. PWA is the end of 75% of apps being in the app store
judah•1h ago
Seems like a useful resource to help devs understand PWA support across platforms. Thank you!

I help run PWABuilder.com, which packages PWAs for app stores. I think it would be helpful to our users to see your pwascore.com site. Maybe we can link to your site from ours.

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