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Zero-day in file-sharing software leads to RCE, and attacks are ongoing

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/10/zeroday_in_filesharing_software_leads/
1•Bender•2m ago•0 comments

How to Design a Rate Limiter (A Complete Guide for System Design Interviews)

https://javarevisited.substack.com/p/how-to-design-a-rate-limiter-a-complete
1•birdculture•3m ago•0 comments

RondoDox botnet fires 'exploit shotgun' at nearly every router and home device

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/09/rondodox_botnet_fires_exploit_shotgun/
1•Bender•3m ago•0 comments

SendPai - Open-Source 550 HP Kei Truck EV Built in Detroit (Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-QgQitWNLY
1•rmason•5m ago•0 comments

They Don't Have the Money: OpenAI Edition

https://platformonomics.com/2025/10/they-dont-have-the-money-openai-edition/
1•eatonphil•6m ago•0 comments

Can Self-Flying Planes Transform the Skies?

https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/reliable-robotics-autonomous-autopilot-planes-834ac224
1•bookofjoe•6m ago•1 comments

Reuse pavilions and equipment, Osaka Expo organizer urges

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/09/16/japan/expo-reuse-pavilions/
1•PaulHoule•7m ago•0 comments

How to tame a user interface using a spreadsheet

https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2025/10/11/how-to-tame-a-user-interface-using-a-spreadsheet/
1•msephton•8m ago•0 comments

Americans have become more pessimistic about AI. Why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/10/07/ai-public-opinion-mistrust/
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•9m ago•1 comments

Experimental TypeScript fork with operator overloading and overload dispatch

https://github.com/adrianstephens/TypeScript
1•adrianstephens•11m ago•0 comments

TikTok removing posts for violating the "joy of TikTok"

https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1976786912154386828/
3•bhouston•17m ago•0 comments

The eccentric investment strategy that beats the rest

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/10/01/the-eccentric-investment-strategy-that...
1•hhs•18m ago•0 comments

The fight to take the chemicals out of Champagne

https://aviewfrommytable.substack.com/p/the-fight-to-take-the-chemicals-out
1•Khaine•24m ago•0 comments

Programming in the Sun: A Year with the Daylight Computer

https://wickstrom.tech/2025-10-10-programming-in-the-sun-a-year-with-the-daylight-computer.html
3•ghuntley•29m ago•0 comments

I Built Claude Code for CUDA Using Python

https://twitter.com/Akashi203/status/1976310866711564725
3•rightnow_ai•32m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Velocity is a post-quantum transport protocol

https://projectvelocity.org
1•AndrewCTF•41m ago•0 comments

The people rescuing forgotten knowledge trapped on old floppy disks

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251009-rescuing-knowledge-trapped-on-old-floppy-disks
2•jnord•44m ago•0 comments

There will soon be AI agents working on our behalf

https://blog.cip.org/p/there-will-soon-be-millions-of-ai
1•joalstein•46m ago•1 comments

Marc Benioff Says Trump Should Send Guard Troops to San Francisco

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/us/marc-benioff-san-francisco-guard.html
7•ipsocannibal•47m ago•4 comments

Beyond the AI Hype: Guido van Rossum on Python's Philosophy, Simplicity, and Th

https://www.odbms.org/blog/2025/10/beyond-the-ai-hype-guido-van-rossum-on-pythons-philosophy-simp...
1•todsacerdoti•48m ago•0 comments

Do any pathways exist for Voyager to become publicly maintained?

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/10/nasa_voyagers_budget/
1•Arthurian•49m ago•1 comments

Vision Statement: To bring sustainable tyranny to the galaxy

https://supremefounder.com/vision-statement.html
1•fmfamaral•51m ago•0 comments

Google boasts 1.3 quadrillion tokens each month

https://the-decoder.com/google-boasts-1-3-quadrillion-tokens-each-month-but-the-figure-is-mostly-...
1•jasoncartwright•52m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Album of love songs told through scientific/technical analogies [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3bXnUoaJQ&list=OLAK5uy_k7NK4N1VYnEfVdftCm48HWGtIC5RDeXEc&index=11
1•sharieskenas•52m ago•0 comments

Crypto Sees More Than $6B in Liquidations

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-10/crypto-sees-more-than-3-billion-in-liquidation...
7•clanky•52m ago•0 comments

Crypto world, buckle up for the rug-pull of all time

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5548075-crypto-rug-pull-warning/
6•petethomas•58m ago•0 comments

Trump says he'll impose new 100% tariff on China 'over and above' current rates

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/10/politics/rare-earths-china-trump-threats
5•rawgabbit•1h ago•0 comments

NixOS dotfiles repo will blow your mind

https://github.com/QuackHack-McBlindy/dotfiles
2•quackhack•1h ago•0 comments

1•hasssn•1h ago

The people rescuing forgotten knowledge trapped on old floppy disks

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg02rdxxz7o
5•1vuio0pswjnm7•1h ago•2 comments
Open in hackernews

Liquid Glass Is Cracked, and Usability Suffers in iOS 26

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/liquid-glass/
320•uxjw•2h ago

Comments

colechristensen•2h ago
In short: Dear Apple, please tone it down a few notches.
martini333•2h ago
Liquid ass.
swader999•2h ago
That's a different product: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Ass
sergiomattei•2h ago
To clarify, this isn't based on user research or survey results, as other Nielsen Group writeups are.

It's a senior editor's opinion on the UI of iOS 26.

mfro•2h ago
Literally every change made in iOS 26 feels like a downgrade to me. This is the first time I have ever considered downgrading iOS.
noname120•2h ago
Is it even possible?
MBCook•2h ago
Only for a very limited time after the release. And you can’t strictly “downgrade“ it, you have to restore it from factory with the older OS and then reload your back up.
flykespice•2h ago
Then you would be forced to upgrade after factory reset (basically digital sisyphus)?
whycome•2h ago
Apple is pretty good in not forcing upgrades as far as I remember. You can stay on an older OS until you personally run into app compatibility issues
MBCook•37m ago
They’re getting bolder about pushing you to upgrade with badges on settings and push notifications and defaulting people into automatic updates.

But you can turn that stuff off. They may try to trick you so you have to remain somewhat vigilant. But I don’t think they ever absolutely force you to upgrade.

doublerabbit•16m ago
Even with updates turned off I get nagging notification in the messaging app and on the lock screen as well as the appstore. Still on 17.7.2.
MBCook•38m ago
No, you can go back for a while. They’ll certainly ask you, but you can say no.

At a certain part they stop signing the OS. At that point because it doesn’t have the cryptographic signature you can’t install it at all and your only choice is something newer.

With point releases or security updates that tends to be pretty fast because they don’t want people downgrading to something vulnerable. When going from iOS X to iOS X + 1 grace period is usually longer before they stop that.

And, of course, if you try and install an iOS 26 backup on the phone that you just moved back to 18… you’re just gonna be on 26 again. So you better make sure you have the right back up.

apazzolini•2h ago
It was, but Apple is no longer signing the old releases. (https://ipsw.me/iPhone14,4).

I downgraded about 10 minutes after trying iOS 26. Sorry to all who missed the window.

mfro•1h ago
Wow, didn’t know that. Really ticks me off.
doublerabbit•19m ago
I'm still on 17.7.2, hoping for a jailbreak one day...
MBCook•2h ago
I think there are a few nice changes in 26, but they’re small things.

They are certainly overwhelmed by the problems caused by the terrible visual design, which does not accomplish its stated goals and usually is a very large setback compared to what we had previously.

toomuchtodo•2h ago
Agreed, it’s pretty bad. It causes my 16 pro max to lag in some apps, Siri is broken, etc. Very surprised this made it through QA to GA.
mfro•1h ago
Re: performance, I disabled Apple Intelligence (it’s useless anyways) and noticed a big perf improvement on my 16 plus.
toomuchtodo•47m ago
Appreciate the suggestion, unfortunately, I have it off already :(
98codes•2h ago
Settings -> Accessibility -> Display & Text Size -> enable Reduce Transparency

That made a world of difference for me.

donmcronald•2h ago
I did this on all my Apple devices about 60 seconds after the update. I don't know how people can use things like iMessage with the defaults.
curiousguy•1h ago
I tried that, but this completely removes the transparency, and some apps look even worse and harder to visualise as it’s not designed to not have the transparency on iOS 26.

This could be significant improvement if Apple let us choose the transparency percentage.

geuis•1h ago
I certainly won't be upgrading to this version. I already don't really like the current version and see no reason to inflict a Windows Vista-like experience on myself.
noname120•2h ago
Let’s not forget how Liquid Glass made my Apple Watch Series 10 laggy and battery-hungry due to the expensive fluid simulations. Reducing transparency in accessibility settings didn’t help unfortunately.
LeoPanthera•2h ago
I have a Series 10 and I haven't experienced either of those problems. Other than the PIN entry screen being very "glassy", it's not actually that different. Perhaps you have some other issue.
noname120•2h ago
From the home screen scroll down through the widgets with the digital crown and you’ll see what I mean.
LeoPanthera•2h ago
No, I don't see a problem. Scrolls smoothly, no loading delays. Perhaps it is a specific widget you have?
nozzlegear•1h ago
I don't have a problem with this either, it's as smooth as it was before the Liquid Glass update.
donmcronald•2h ago
I don't like how everything seems to require extra clicks or has extra animation now. For example, the workout selection has a weird feeling like it's fluid and everything just kind of scrolls along. Then when you stop on something long enough, the rest of the UI elements like the start / play button show up.

Why do I need to watch a mini video to have UI controls appear? It's incredibly annoying.

My Linux install feels so much faster than Windows or OSX and the main reason is that it's not filled with a bunch of useless, slow animation.

frizlab•2h ago
Interestingly the animation when an app is opened has actually been sped up in iOS 26!

On macOS you can speed up/disable the animations using some hidden defaults (you can easily find that on the internet).

Personally I like the animations; I find them well-done on macOS. They serve a purpose but are not “too much” either IMHO.

olyjohn•37m ago
The really pathetic thing about this... Linux has had the capability to do this for years. About 20 years ago, I was playing with compiz, and turned on every single effect. Window dragging with transparency, bubbly windows that would snap into place, windows that would resize with an elastic-looking snap, switching entire desktops with cube animations. Animations were smooth and fluid, and didn't even drop a frame. That was 20 years ago, running on really low end Intel integrated graphics. There's no excuse for this laggyness. These are basic animations that GPUs should handle just fine. I mean hell, we were rendering full 3d environments with realistic water effects like 10+ years ago on GPUs that can't even begin to compare with what we have today. Your GPU can't even handle a tiny little animated button today? WTF?
lxgr•2h ago
I doubt the bulk of battery life is lost in visual effects, especially if turning them off apparently does not help.

I’ve subjectively had battery life regressions for most iOS updates until the first minor version update or so, but that might also just have correlated with extensive re-indexing of Photos and things like that.

frenchie4111•2h ago
My (certainly biased, long term apple user) opinion is that Liquid Glass is delightful. I upgraded as soon as I could, and it's honestly a joy to use
evanjrowley•2h ago
If it makes Apple users feel better about Liquid Glass, the Material 3 Expressive in Android 16 is an overall worse experence than what came before. Yes it looks better, but apps are much laggier, at least on my Pixel 7 anyway. The venreble 120 Hz refresh rate on Android doesn't help when scrolling HN is enough for an FPS drop.
zt64•2h ago
Interesting, it seems just as smooth on my OnePlus 13. As an app developer I don't see how the Material 3 Expressive UI would cause reduced performance. My only guess is poor usage of the API by developers.
jeroenhd•1h ago
FWIW on my phone I don't have a problem with it at all, probably because it doesn't run into the same performance limitations.

I've always found Google's decision to include mid-tier SoCs into their flagship phones risky as it makes performance hitches for future updates much more obvious. If/when Google copies Liquid Glass into the next version of Material Design, I'm sure my phone will suffer from a performance hit too.

That said, scrolling HN still works fine on hardware from a decade ago, so there's got to be more to this. I've personally had custom ROMs experience random lags and slowdowns after major upgrades (which is probably why many ROMs claim it doesn't work and don't support it) and I wouldn't be surprised if the Android upgrade hit a similar issue on your phone. As a last resort before buying a new phone, doing a factory reset may make the new OS more usable on your device. Not the right solution (fixes from Google's side to prevent such issues would be right solution), but it might work and it's cheaper than a new phone.

cluckindan•2h ago
Liquid Glass looks and feels like early 2000’s WinAmp Skin Generator skins.
thousand_nights•2h ago
except it doesn't whip the llama's ass
mcphage•1h ago
What does, these days?
crooked-v•1h ago
https://webamp.org
olyjohn•44m ago
Audacious in WinAmp skin mode.
binarynate•2h ago
I haven't upgraded to iOS 26 because of Liquid Glass, mostly because I've read that it causes performance degradation on older devices (I use an iPhone 13 Mini because I have zero interest in using a larger phone). So, it looks like I'll be using iOS 18 for the foreseeable future.
Gigachad•2h ago
It was running well on my 13 pro as in there was no lag on anything, but I can’t speak for battery life. It was bad before and it was still bad after, but maybe it got worse?
captn3m0•2h ago
I made the mistake of upgrading (13 Mini) and it is very clear that the new UI was not tested at all on smaller screens. The rounded buttons take up so much extra margin that actual usable space is greatly diminished.
thedougd•2h ago
Replied at the same time as you. I agree. In Safari there’s ton of space on each side of the URL bubble yet I only get about 7 chara visible.
rfmc•2h ago
How's the battery on your 13 Mini? Mine is abhorrent compared to a few weeks ago.
Reason077•2h ago
I have the standard iPhone 13 (not mini) and the battery longevity is probably the best of any phone I've ever owned. At over 3.5 years old it still reports 89% battery health and lasts much longer than I need. Previous iPhones I owned were all pretty much on their last legs by that age.

I haven't upgraded it to iOS 26 / Liquid Glass, though, and given what I'm seeing/hearing, I don't plan to.

MYEUHD•2h ago
The question was how much the update to iOS 26 affected battery life
tom_•1h ago
On the iPhone 13 Mini
Reason077•53m ago
I like to rant about my iPhone 13's great battery, any chance I can get!
tom_•32m ago
U+1FAE1 SALUTING FACE
jdsnape•2h ago
I have a 12 mini and have also found that 26 has killed my battery life.

I also agree that they didn’t test it on smaller screens, there are lots of cases where things don’t quite fit right.

I’ve been wanting a better camera for a little while, I guess it’s time to adjust to something bigger :\

jijijijij•2h ago
On the mini, some UI elements got half pushed into Narnia. Apple, like, WTF?!
Zaheer•1h ago
Same. Terrible mistake. My mini overheats like crazy now.
thedougd•2h ago
I have an iPhone 13 and haven’t noticed. Don’t love it though.

The safari changes are the worst part.

rfmc•2h ago
I regret upgrading my 13 Mini so much. Performance is terrible and it's chugging power.

Yesterday, for the first time since I bought the phone, it died on me before 18:00 with regular usage. I used to charge everyday when I go to bed with around 15-25% left, now I can't even finish the work day.

dangus•2h ago
It has horrible battery life, even on a relatively new device. Don’t upgrade.
epistasis•2h ago
This is the worst part of it.

I actually feel a warm computer now, something that I have never experienced in five years of having this M1 MacBook.

This takes amazing hardware and degrades it to Windows laptop slop.

In the Jobs days, at least one VP head would roll for this, and Apple would be far better off for it. I don't think Tim Cook is strong enough for that though.

jacobp100•2h ago
Upgraded my 12 mini. Performance is fine. Battery life is as it always was
hamburglar•1h ago
For what it’s worth, I upgraded to 26 on a 3rd gen SE and perf is totally fine. I do hate most of the UI changes though. I really hope they do a dot release that lets me turn off the “safari viewport is big but we draw crap on top of it” stuff. I keep cursing at the title bar and url bar obscuring important things.
npunt•1h ago
iOS .0 releases tend to be this way, even on brand new devices. I noticed some big perf improvements on the 26.0.1 release. If I were you I'd wait til 26.1 or 26.2 and reassess then. It still may not be optimal for a mini tho for non-perf reasons, as iOS26 assumes a larger average device size.
jmull•1h ago
I have a 12 mini and it works well.

IMO, this is 99% typical "not what I'm used to" internet rage. Upgrade and enjoy.

symlinkk•2h ago
Made my phone immediately much laggier (iPhone 13 Pro) which is probably the intention
rfmc•2h ago
13 Mini here, and yesterday for the first time since I bought, the battery died on me in the middle of the day, in the office, with my regular usage (which is very low).
noname120•2h ago
It also made my iPhone 16 Pro Max a bit laggier, but the worst offender is my Apple Watch Series 10 which has a big frame rate drop every time there is a Liquid Glass animation. It feels very sluggish now and the battery seems worse than before. Everyone is impacted to different extents, I don’t think it’s deliberately made to cripple older iPhones.
jacobp100•2h ago
Every update slows your phone down temporarily, because there’s background processing that goes on for a while after. That’s always been the case
symlinkk•1h ago
I’ve had it for days and it’s still slow
Computer0•2h ago
Sometimes it looks really cool and I find myself playing with the UI just to see what happens, sometimes it looks so ugly and terribly antithetical to the idea of a cohesive design that I miss the previous design language significantly. The phone is a tool I use.
al_borland•2h ago
Remember that iOS 18 was over a decade of evolution on the design changes in iOS 7, which also had a significant amount of hate when it was released for being ugly, confusing, and hard to read.
TheOtherHobbes•2h ago
All of this is true. The first thing I did was turn down transparency. But there's no way to tone down the new animations, which make the UI feel twitchy and distracting.

And there are some stupidly obvious bugs - like the WEATHER header in the weather app is black on a dark background.

And the way the buttons at the bottom of the page are tight up against the content instead of being centred in the space under it.

It reeks of design-for-resume-padding instead of design-for-user-delight.

superb_dev•1h ago
The amount of obvious visual flaws is crazy. On an iPhone, play a video in Picture-in-Picture then hide it off the edge of the screen. The corner radius of the arrow control and the video underneath it are different so you can see the video poking through
JanSt•2h ago
They also managed to introduce regressions into WebKit so that the visual and touch positions of fixed input elements diverge. Really makes you question what’s going on at Apple.
andrewmcwatters•2h ago
As someone who pretty strictly adheres to Apple Human Interface Guidelines, it's really off-putting to see them slip so badly backwards on their own published work.

There are now portions of iOS that use either iOS 18's UIKit, or iOS 26's Liquid Glass UI in apps.

It feels like Apple is having a Windows moment with their operating systems for the jarring combination of old and new UI designs sitting next to each other and it's gross. I hate it.

thewebguyd•2h ago
Yeah it's so un-Apple like it's really jarring.

It feels like they pulled this out of their ass last minute after the AI siri failures, they had to have something to put out for 2025.

I actually don't mind it on iPhone outside of the bugs and inconsitencies, but it's attrocious on macOS and the new iPad windowing was obviously made with zero consideration for touch-first users and was only made to cater to the whiners about iPad needing to become more mac-like.

Just poorly though out all around.

bitpush•35m ago
> It feels like Apple is having a Windows moment with their operating systems

.. or by definition, Apple is having an Apple moment :)

medhir•2h ago
Avoiding iOS 26 like the plague for exactly this reason. It feels like Apple decided they need to leverage their GPU silicon for a fancy GUI update without any concern for usability downgrades.
AstroBen•2h ago
I might be the only one who actually really likes the Liquid Glass?

Its made my 12 pro max noticeably laggier though, which I'm definitely not a fan of..

Gigachad•2h ago
I quite like it and I think iOS 26 largely works really well. But MacOS 26 has been quite buggy for me, it seems to have gotten better with the latest patch but I’m still seeing semi regular issues.
lawgimenez•1h ago
Been using Liquid Glass since the first developer beta release, as an Apple dev I like it.

OP seems to even deliberately choose a stupid message background just to prove his/her point. Of course, there's a lot of backgrounds to choose from.

b_e_n_t_o_n•33m ago
No you aren't, I like it too. I did notice some slowdown with my iPhone 14 in low battery mode though, which is a shame but not unexpected.
hsbauauvhabzb•2h ago
Am I the only one who feels like this doesn’t even look good, even if it was a better user experience?
e1ghtSpace•49m ago
No, I wish we'd go back to the skeuomorphic iOS 6 (and below) look.
ge96•2h ago
Cracked as in good or bad
jychang•2h ago
Yeah, that's the funny thing about this article title.

Apparently the author (and most commenters here!) do not realize "cracked" is VERY popular gen z slang for being very good at something.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked

ninetyninenine•2h ago
Bad, like really bad. Example: “Liquid design is really bad ass”
ge96•1h ago
That sounds good
jychang•1h ago
He's being sarcastic, "bad" and "bad ass" are clearly opposites.
roncesvalles•2h ago
I already switched it off a few days ago.

Turning on "Reduce Transparency" and "Increase Contrast" under Accessibility > Display makes the phone a pleasure to use.

skopje•2h ago
I did the same on Tahoe and now the formerly glass buttons are grey with a weird blue shadow in the upper left. One example: the sound slider on the menu bar. With all the GFX turned on, it is a transparent blob, with the reduced settings, it's just a weird gray with a nonsensical shadow.

I'd really, really love to read internal presentations leading up to this downgrade of a once proud UI (let's hear it for System 7) to what is now effectively a collection childish digital baubles.

dewey•2h ago
I've read so much criticism and listened to so many Apple podcast that I expected the worst. Then updated on day one and...it's fine? I know that people just hate any change but this was massively blown out of proportion.
Gigachad•2h ago
It looks worse in screenshots than it does to use. I saw a few images on reddit that looked quite bad, but then when I actually used it I saw those screenshots were taken in the middle of animations or transitions that last only a handful of frames.
dewey•2h ago
Indeed, it's telling that the first screenshot they are using to illustrate the problem is a iMessage screenshot, with a high contrast background image, only one message and images in a similar color theme as the background image.

If you want high contrast in your messages app...don't use a high contrast background image?

closetohome•1h ago
That picture just feels like a case study in why Apple drug their feet on features like that for so long. If you let people set a background and change the font, you're going to have unreadable purple comic sans over kittens within minutes.
averageRoyalty•1h ago
I agree. I don't like change and I'm usually the first to criticise, but it's fine. Some of the animations feel nice, but I'm yet to see anything that wows or upsets me.
porcoda•2h ago
This update is one of the rare cases where I really dislike the new version. I’m usually happy with Apple updates, even ones the commentators dislike. This time I’m sorta agreeing with them: I don’t like the new iOS. Same with the Mac and iPad: other than being glitchy, I just don’t like the changes. It feels like my screen real estate isn’t as efficiently used, UI elements feel jumbled and the transparency makes things harder to read. I’m sure I’ll get used to it over time but I’m not enjoying it so far, even after going into the settings to try to adjust things I don’t care for. Not my favorite update cycle from Apple, and I’m usually one of the overly positive folks on whatever Apple ships.
whycome•2h ago
It’s terrible from a UX standpoint. By definition, translucent elements present more potential information to a user. It makes it harder to parse certain screens. It’s a nightmare if you have subtle vision issues (where it’s not bad enough you’d need to enable accessibility options). You’re not going to “get used to it” — you’re really just adapting to a crippled interface.

I think it all stems from trying to unify the UX/UI across devices, and to also pull the Vision VR device into that iphone-iPad-MacBook-watch grouping. Handoff and other cross-device interactions suffer when you have significantly different UI elements or interactions.

jijijijij•2h ago
Not even form over function, it's fucking ugly. How did this get past the draft board?
Reason077•2h ago
The problem is designs and elements that were carefully considered and crafted for Vision OS don't always translate well when grafted into iOS and macOS. What looks elegant and modern in AR can look garish, distracting, and old-fashioned on a more traditional device.
nicce•2h ago
You can finally see senders’ and receivers’ email address properly in the mail app. Something positive!
donmcronald•2h ago
On my Mac I almost laugh at how massive the borders are to accommodate the freakishly large corner radius. The next version might have round windows at this pace.
mrducksy•50m ago
Get a glimpse of your favorite apps with our new Apple Peephole technology!
shermantanktop•1h ago
Same. I'm just not someone with strong feelings about UX consistency or appearance, and tend to focus on functionality.

But this...this feels like a symptom of something fundamental inside Apple going wrong.

walkabout•1h ago
The only time before this I've felt like Apple took a huge UX or appearance dive on an OS upgrade was iOS6 -> iOS7. People complain about almost every macOS upgrade, but the closest they've come to bothering me is that I hated the new tab styles in desktop Safari they introduced a while ago, but that was configurable so I just set it back to normal and that was that. I've disliked other things (the Touch Bar was never anything but a way for me to accidentally open Music—I basically had to disable it to make any of those MacBooks usable) but never really been bothered by an OSX/macOS update's appearance.

So, I didn't expect to mind this at all, despite lots of people apparently hating it.

Then I upgraded. And yeah, it's remarkably shitty looking, first time I've agreed with the "haters" for a macOS release. It looks like an above-average GTK theme, which is to say, awful. Plus they found a new and different way to make Safari's tabs look like crap (and I'd swear tab manipulation is super laggy now, where it wasn't before) and this time I can't fix it with a settings toggle. Like, that element specifically looks and feels like it's from a below average GTK theme.

sethops1•25m ago
Heh, I submitted a complaint with Apple every day until they reverted those Safari tab styles. Awful design. There is something deeply broken inside Apple allowing these broken, awful designs get out.
llbbdd•1h ago
I'd be ambivalent about it if it didn't ship broken. My Mac updated the other day and I don't think I've seen the glass top bar work correctly once. In fullscreen in particular it doesn't work at all, the background that it's meant to be blurring gets stuck and never changes, so it just looks like shit and is nearly unreadable. I'm not on any beta track or anything so this is what normal people get. I have no idea how they felt good shipping it.
archagon•1h ago
It looks pretty (sometimes) but I have not found a single usability improvement stemming from the new paradigm.
fiddlerwoaroof•37m ago
One thing I’ve noticed is that search fields are now generally at the bottom of the screen which makes them a lot easier to activate. (No more flicking the screen down to search).

I disliked the update for a week or so at first, but I have to say I find the liquid animations fun now.

operator-name•1h ago
From reading this thread I’m glad I’m not alone. It seems their “compact” mode has a bunch of invisible gestures that you’re just supposed to know about.

Luckily I’ve also discovered that you can revert back to “bottom” tab mode in the settings, which brings back something similar to the old UI.

scelerat•1h ago
I suppose an upvote should be sufficient, but I am so unhappy with the new UI I am actually holding off switching to a new M4 MBP and sticking to my old M1 still on Sequoia 15.7.1. I also try to give these things time and I am usually ok with the changes eventually, but the new UI elements are so incredibly distracting it's actually affecting my ability to focus on what I'm actually doing.
Reason077•1h ago
At least with Macs you are free to choose and downgrade to any OS version that you like, so long as that version supports your hardware. macOS 15.7.1 will run just fine on any M4 Mac, and Apple will likely continue to release 15.x updates for a year or so yet, and security updates even beyond that.

It's not like iOS where, once updated, you're generally blocked from ever downgrading back to a previous OS version.

OGEnthusiast•45m ago
The M4 MBP, even if it comes pre-installed with Tahoe, can still be downgraded to Sequoia via DFU restore. The real cut-off will be the M5 Macs, which only Tahoe and above will have hardware support for.
lethologica•42m ago
I just bought a M4 MBA, my first since a 2014 MBP. I absolutely hated the 26 update on my phone and iPad but honestly don’t even notice it on my MacBook.
shantara•40m ago
I decided to postpone an iPhone upgrade for another year rather than be forced to use iOS 26 without a downgrade option. This is the only way to send a signal.
seemaze•12m ago
I upgraded iOS after I discovered that the AirPods Pro 3 lose native integration with iOS 18 and macOS 15. Hated it so much, I sent the AirPods Pro 3 back for discounted AirPods Pro 2 and am considering trading my upgraded iPhone in for the latest model I can get on iOS 18.

I'm going to ride iOS 18 and macOS 15 into the sunset and then leave the Apple ecosystem.

gedy•57m ago
It honestly wouldn't bee too bad on macOS if they kept this mostly to the window chrome, or things that really need to float. But adding this to all the toolbar buttons, in Safari and Finder looks just like some 3rd party theme hack, it's really tacky. They also didn't seem to consider dark mode well or at all.
jsbisviewtiful•53m ago
Same boat. I started with the third public beta on my iPhone and the UX overhaul has not grown much on me. I reversed the Safari layout back to the previous, the combined Phone sections are not intuitive (and I almost reversed back to the previous with that too), the lock screen change is not bad but also not bringing more usability... The lack of new lock screen widgets is baffling. The overall appearance... it's hideous. Everything looks unfocused/muddy, colors look gross, readability is down and practically everything is clunky. I changed my Home Screen apps to all clear so I wouldn't have to look are the loud and oversaturated colors. Def not Apple's best work and confusing how we got here. The spam filtering for texts and phone calls is the prize change for the entire OS, which is funny because Apple Intelligence is still somewhat worthless even a year and a big update later. Genmoji, the only good thing about it, still fails 50%+ of the time.
what-the-grump•41m ago
Honest question, I run with a black background I didn’t notice anything major going to Tahoe outside of my battery life taking a major hit.

What are some of the elements that have major impact?

tombert•17m ago
The transparency thing stopped being cute when I couldn't easily differentiate between Gmail, ProtonMail, and Apple Mail. These icons had color, used that color to differentiate them.

I don't think this is atypical, we have color screens for a reason.

bavent•10m ago
Beyond that, it’s buggy and inconsistent. In dark mode, text boxes suddenly become light mode when they expand to add a second entry line. Buttons aren’t aligned within their containers properly. Some times buttons are in light mode when my phone is in dark mode, or if I open an app, it starts out in light mode and then suddenly switches to dark mode after a second or two. There is a noticeable lag when I back out of a message before it loads the other conversations in iMessage.

I think I had tracked 15+ things I would easily qualify as bugs the first two days after upgrading my phone - this would be absolutely unacceptable where I work, and we aren’t a trillion-dollar company with psychotic hiring standards.

Was this even QAed? I don’t like the look, but that’s a personal thing, these are actual issues that are not subjective.

ano-ther•2h ago
Some of it (like hiding the Safari tab button in a menu) feels like Windows-11-stupid.

Luckily, Apple is ok at supporting older phones, so I just have to be careful to not accidentally upgrade my SE to iOS 26.

Makes me nostalgic for Apple's interface guidelines, which were very well thought through, based on evidence, and with clear principles. https://vintageapple.org/inside_r/pdf/Human_Interface_Guidel...

argsnd•2h ago
You can just set it to show the tab button
dangus•2h ago
Why isn’t the better option the default?
kevinsundar•2h ago
You can actually swipe up from the search field at the bottom and that will show all tabs. (If anyone is reading this from apple, that animation should be sped up).

However, this doesn't work if you've scrolled down already and the bar is minimized. It literally flashes as if to acknowledge your swipe and does nothing.

Also if you miss by moving your thumb just slightly lower, you'll close the app haha.

They thought about it a bit, but definitely not enough.

nomel•2h ago
You can also swipe left and right to switch tabs, in any state.

But, as you suggest, you have to tap the url to "bring it up" so it can be safely dragged upward, which is annoying. If they polish this a bit, I think it will be very nice.

jjfoooo4•2h ago
Just because it took me a second to figure out: swiping left or right works when done on the search bar, not anywhere on the screen
hamburglar•1h ago
Swiping left or right on the screen is the special “please misinterpret my attempt to scroll as a ‘forward’ or ‘back’ command, eliciting a curse” gesture. I have searched for a way to disable this many times.
heywoods•2h ago
So many changes over the years and some of them might actually be decent but I wouldn’t have known about this had I not read this comment or accidentally triggered it in the future. Has Apple experimented with “micro” tutorials that can pop up if they detect the user is performing an action in an inefficient/deprecated pattern? I.e. if in Safari I navigate to all tabs by tapping at the bottom —> hamburger icon —> all tabs a one time modal pops up showing the ux pattern they recommend
Taek•1h ago
I hate micro tutorials so much, I really don't like when things have an invisible language that you have to just know to be able to use them.

If you have to have an invisible language, put it in a man page somewhere or something. I really don't like having my train of thought interrupted by "HEY, learn something new RIGHT NOW"

archagon•1h ago
That swipe sucks because it’s almost identical to the “swipe up from bottom” home screen swipe. You have to be precise, and the initial UI feedback looks very similar between the two.
sorahn•1h ago
I gave up on the swipe for the same reason, but if you double tap the triple dot menu it hits the 'all tabs' thing.
operator-name•1h ago
As a long time Android user, I find these magical gestures frustrating difficult to discover. How on earth is someone supposed to guess such a gesture exists, and how am I supposed to guess the rules for when certain gestures work and certain gestures don’t?

Even long time friends who are iOS fanatics, and who have used iOS since the beginning are often surprised when I show them a new gesture I’ve learnt. Am I missing something? I’m really grateful to learn this now but I can’t imagine the “Apple way” is to stumble upon these by forum comments?

npunt•2h ago
I initially balked at this change but realized they placed the 'all tabs' button right where the ellipsis menu is, so you can just double tap to get to your tabs. Takes the same amount of time.
navindra•2h ago
Pinch gesture works as well.
canpan•2h ago
Safari and the lock screen clock were my biggest issues.

The lock screen clock went from "can read in a split second" to "wait what number is this?".

Luckily there was a setting for that one.

random3•1h ago
Oh, so it’s hidden? I gave up several times without realizing. That is incredibly stupid
infecto•1h ago
I was thinking of changing my iOS browser because of the safari tab change.
JALTU•1h ago
Regrettably, humans come along and need to prove themselves, so here we are. Being human: it's a feature, not a bug. (shrugs)
wintermutestwin•1h ago
>Fortunately, the software capability to handle different text sizes can make it easier to support people with a vision disability. You can design your software with a “zoom” feature that increases the size of characters or graphics on the screen.

If only the iPhone "menu bar" designers took that to heart. It is insane that I have to put on glasses to read the time when there is plenty of room to increase the damn font, but no option to do so.

I am gonna be LMAO when all these youngster UI designers age up to the point where they have to wear readers to use their crap UI.

layer8•1h ago
> Luckily, Apple is ok at supporting older phones, so I just have to be careful to not accidentally upgrade my SE to iOS 26.

You won’t be receiving any updates for iOS 18 after December or so, if your device supports iOS 26. Only the iPhone XR and XS will be receiving further iOS 18 updates, because they don’t support iOS 26. That has been Apple’s policy for many years now. Only devices that dropped out of major iOS updates receive minor updates to older iOS versions. The same minor updates are not made available to iPhone models that support a newer major version.

nielsbot•2h ago
Seems like I'm against the trend here in HN, but I personally like it more the more I use it. (Admittedly I don't have any accessibility issues which may come up for others)

Also, I appreciate the UX improvements (as opposed to the pretty glass effect), such as the much improved menu system and the generally (IMO) improved changes in layout in Calendar, Mail, Safari, etc.

That said I do find it a bit more annoying to access different tabs in Safari but maybe that's why I get for using Safari.

mrkstu•2h ago
Turning on reduce transparency makes it perfectly usable, generally.

Even with transparency on its gotten much better than the early betas, which is good, since that is the happy code path and gets more testing coverage.

themadturk•2h ago
Came her to say this. There are things I still don't like about it, but reducing transparency has helped a lot. The rest I'm willing to live with (as if I had any choice...)
argsnd•2h ago
If you head into Safari's settings you can reinstate the old bottom bar (or the even older top and bottom bars)
operator-name•1h ago
There’s also a hell of a lot of gestures that I’ve just learned of: https://www.cnet.com/tech/i-finally-got-used-to-the-new-ios-...
exasperaited•2h ago
> (Admittedly I don't have any accessibility issues which may come up for others)

Yet.

This design is really punitive for older, tireder eyes and they really need to learn not to do this. Because their audience gets older all the time (as the population in all western countries does).

Their design team is evidently skewed young again, and needs to really learn about how ageing affects eyesight for absolutely everyone. It is insane to put everyone over about 50 into an accessibility category, but eyesight ageing is one of the things that can't be held back.

jeroenhd•2h ago
I like it too. However, I have noticed several screens that clearly were never tested by any Apple testers. Not just the liquid glass part, either; I've found entirely borked screens inside of the iOS settings app.

When I tried to get Aero Glass into Linux themes, I found plenty of existing transparency-oriented themes, but all of them made Microsoft's decision to use frosted glass more obvious. There's a balance between the shininess and opacity that needs to be dialed down for the look to both look good and be clear.

I think Apple went too far with making their theme look shiny. I assume (hope) a 26.1 update coming out in a few months to tweak the UI and fix a lot of the usability issues.

As for the weird design choices around Safari: I've always found Safari's UI to be one of the most confusing parts of iOS. It was never quite obvious to me what menu I would need to hit to get to what feature. I think removing the tab button is a step backwards for sure, but with my normal struggle to use it, I've barely noticed it to be honest. I find the button as easy to find as I do most Safari buttons, and that includes previous versions.

macOS seems particularly bad for built-in software, though. It seems like Apple changed the look of standard list boxes/navigation panels/whatever they call the menu on the left, and a lot of built-in macOS applications look terrible when multiple of these panes are placed near each other.

quirino•1h ago
I'm a fan of the eye-candy. Truly feels like a glimpse of the future is terms of aesthetics. I just wish they hadn't thrown UX principles away.
gcr•1h ago
I must be in the minority because I actually kinda like liquid glass. I find the effect tasteful.
ninetyninenine•2h ago
I disagree I love the glass.

The human eye was not designed to look at text or to look at text on top of solid color static backgrounds which don’t exist in nature.

Our eye was designed to look at noise and filter moving noise. It is better to have a background that distinguishes itself based off of texture and movement rather than a sudden contrast of divergent flat colors.

Yes flat design is logically more efficient I understand this but human evolution has evolved our bodies to be narrow and efficient within a niche. If we move outside of that niche things become inefficient even detrimental.

Take for instance: eating. You’re not designed to eat the most calorie dense fatty foods even though high energy reserves seems like a good thing. Your body ended up evolving towards a niche: a narrow band of caloric intake.

It’s the same thing with visual design. You go too extreme and too efficient with flat colors and flat design you are creating patterns your eye was not optimized for. Your eye was optimized for noise inefficiency and to find patterns and glass emulates this quite well.

To be honest I just made up all the shit I said above. I somewhat believe it could be true but the ultimate reality is that it doesn’t matter that much. Your eye can handle flat design or Liquid Glass without any extra stress. It’s not really a big difference. Your eye can handle it and if you can’t you probably shouldn’t be driving and you should see an eye doctor. People are complaining about this because it’s different from what they are used to not because there’s an actual problem.

bitpush•37m ago
> Your eye can handle flat design or Liquid Glass without any extra stress. It’s not really a big difference. Your eye can handle it and if you can’t you probably shouldn’t be driving and you should see an eye doctor.

You could have used the time to type up that comment on the basics of visual design, and saved us all some sanity.

For hundreds of years, humans have been studying light, color, and shadows. All the way from the cave painters to great maters (da vinci) to modern UI/UX pioneers. There are absolutely things that do not work well (example: visual vibration -https://accessibility.psu.edu/color/brightcolors/) and there are combinations that work well.

So no, it isnt your eye. And you dont need to see an eye doctor. The person/team/company that designed it fell short of the mark.

kace91•2h ago
iOS/macos 26 have me feeling isolated in a way I’ve never experienced in tech.

Aesthetics aside (which I personally don’t like, but I can accept as subjective) I see extreme issues and regressions literally everywhere, from not being able to read the notifications in a half pulled curtain to memory leaks in half the native apps.

Yet no one is raising their voice in the tech world. No bloggers, no YouTubers, nothing that feels proportionate to the screwup I’m seeing. People was far more vocal about the lack of the new Siri.

keyshapegeo99•25m ago
If you head over to digital artistry-related subreddits / other forums, they are almost uniformly very strongly against this due to the major UX regressions in iPadOS for their typical use cases (i.e. touch-based multitasking having been ruined)

But yes agreed, it is mind-boggling to me how broadly well-received this has been

nomel•15m ago
> I see extreme issues and regressions literally everywhere

I would claim this is mostly unrelated to 26, and more related to .0. All the tech people that I know, who have experience with Apple OS releases, wait until .1 release to upgrade, for this reason. .0 are always a shit-show, since my first Apple device over 10 years ago. I see .0 as a public beta, and that's what I expect whenever I do decide to install them. I suspect there's some truth to this, where they don't have time to fix everything found in the actual beta.

infermore•2h ago
whoever made opening a new tab in safari take three taps, the last of which is in the bottom left of the screen instead of the bottom right, has some explaining to do
sangeeth96•2h ago
In the default “compact” layout, I can open a new tab in two taps by tapping the 3 dots, tap “New tab” from the menu.

One tap by holding the 3 dots and dragging finger to the “new tab” item.

But I didn’t like “compact” so switched to “bottom” layout for Tabs from Settings > Apps > Safari.

lemonwaterlime•44m ago
For iOS, if you swipe up on the url bar, it shows all your tabs and then you hit the new tab (+) on the bottom left of the screen.

You do have to discover that faster way to do it, and the alternative is three taps.

bradgessler•2h ago
There's a picture floating around out there of the Apple design team putting actual physical pieces of glass over icons that they printed out. What's funny (not really) is how much more readable that paper would have been if they simply removed the glass.
doawoo•2h ago
I've gotten used to it on iOS 26 at least, but, I have been using the official macOS release on my work macbook and it's _horrid_. I'm holding onto macOS 15 as long as I possibly can on my personal machine.
dangus•2h ago
It’s also introduced a bunch of UI-related bugs, like how guided access has become completely botched and destroyed to the point of almost being non-functional.
prody•2h ago
In summary, Apple messed up, they had nothing to present this year, so they came up with a bad design and passed it off as "revolutionary". This is the kind of thing a failing company does. I'm sad, I'm an Apple fan, but they are pulling scams for years instead of actual developments.
lxgr•2h ago
This seems like a minority perspective, but while (or maybe because) I was really prepared to hate Liquid Glass, I actually quite like it, all in all.

I can’t speak for people with visual impairments, but for me, many of the effects actually work, and I appreciate the on average larger hit targets.

Some things, like the little icons inline of some macOS menu bar items, actually make it easier to quickly spot a given option in a long list to me.

tmarsden•16m ago
It definitely feels like they needed something, anything, to use as a marketing tool following the Apple Intelligence false advertising debacle.
PaulHoule•2h ago
What gets me about it is that it is just a lot of random vandalism of the UI without really looking like anything. The clock on my phone looks like it had anti-anti aliasing applied to it. Most of the contrast got drained out of the settings button but only the settings button. It doesn’t look like they had a vision for what it should look like but instead they just let some random check some random stuff into their source control.
nixpulvis•2h ago
I imagine it's a lot easier to show you're developing code by redesigning things than it is to do the work to figure out fixes to harder bugs with unclear tradeoffs or work to create new directions for the company. New UI is just exciting enough to fool some people into thinking it's still fresh.
pupppet•2h ago
You can almost hear the meeting that spawned this. "We want the interface to get out of the user's way!" macOS 26 is even worse. Suddenly not feeling so smug when I see the Windows complaints.
patrickk•2h ago
More like “how do we shovel the UX of a very niche, overpriced product that barely anyone will use (Vision Pro) on everyone that uses a recent-ish Apple product?”
JumpCrisscross•2h ago
“in the Music app, the current song title ticks along like a stock-market ticker”

This is how it worked on OG iTunes. (Did it also scroll on the iPod?)

captn3m0•2h ago
Some of the Safari screenshots are making me wonder if fake browser chrome attacks will become more prominent in iOS. The chrome/content boundary has slipped away to almost nothing, and it should be possible now to emulate the floating buttons on Safari.
exasperaited•2h ago
Indeed. Not good.
ForceBru•2h ago
Wow, I'm NOT upgrading to iOS 26, this looks terrible. Moreover, I see people complaining about poor performance and worsening battery life.
themadturk•2h ago
Certainly neither is true for everyone. I don't notice any difference in my iPhone's life or performance.
id00•2h ago
All these threads about iOS 26 reminded me about something long forgotten like... the release of iOS

I suggest to check the comments in this 12 years old thread [1], replace version number 7 with 26 there and realise that some things never change

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5856398

roxolotl•2h ago
Yea I’m tempted to upgrade because I assume that people just don’t like change. But then seeing nn group doesn’t like it isn’t a great sign. Definitively going to wait and see what people say in a few months.
WorldPeas•2h ago
Just because something happened once before doesn't mean that it's good.
rurp•1h ago
I'm not surprised since I think most UI overhauls replace one system with another that is roughly equally good, except that nobody is familiar with the new system so everyone burns a bunch of time and attention learning the new one just to get back to par. The new UI often isn't worse in any objective sense, it's just not better and the whole exercise is a giant waste of everyone's time.

Some subset of users like re-learning how to do the same basic things in a new way, such as switching browser tabs, but most people want to spend ~0 time on that stuff and get justified annoyed when it's pushed on them.

Of course over time people will get used to the new design, but even if the new one is materially worse what are people going to do? It's not like Apple cares that much about random user opinion and the joy of a monopoly or duopoly is that the companies controlling one don't have all that much incentive to keep people happy.

array_key_first•22m ago
I think a lot of the time the UI is objectively worse. Less functionality, more clicks/swipes to do the same actions, less legibility, etc.

It's just that people get used to bad software.

marcosdumay•9m ago
> It's just that people get used to bad software.

Or that it improves silently between several versions. Or that it just keeps getting worse, and people are justified every time.

I don't know a lot about Apple. Android seems to be partially at each of those camps.

layer8•1h ago
The transition with iOS 7 was a usability downgrade, and iOS 26 is now another usability downgrade. That people are complaining about both of them is perfectly justified.
sehugg•2h ago
My least favorite animation is in Mobile Safari, when you tap the search bar and it expands and brings up the controls at the bottom. There's a sort of shiny sweep transition from top to bottom, but it's distracting and it's not obvious why it exists. I assume it's to highlight the bottom control bar, but that's just a guess.

I also notice that CarPlay has more contrast now, and not much Liquid Glass. Kinda telling.

bicx•2h ago
2025 feels like a cardinal year for top-down decisions we all just have to endure for the present. The best we can do is bitch loudly and often, and hope the people at the top still feel threatened by consumers/constituents.

This Liquid Glass decision is particularly challenging for my tiny startup. We have multiple platforms including iOS and Android. I was hoping to share much of our design language across iOS and Android, but now Apple has essentially decided that this Liquid Glass will be mandatory after a year of support for "compatibility mode" that disables it for your app.

We'll now have to spend expensive engineering time to cater to Apple's design whims rather than actually working on PMF and profitability.

eschaton•39m ago
You were wrong to even attempt to share design language across platforms. You should make your applications good native citizens if you have any respect for your users, because yours isn’t the only software they use.
tuckerman•25m ago
I think this depends on the context.

If the only way I interact with a service is a single app then I want that app to blend into my phone. I don't care if the Uber app on Android and iOS are the same, I only see one of them. If I have to use a service on many different platforms, I sometimes prefer having a consistent design language, e.g. I like that Slack has a consistent sidebar interface everywhere. I want to go from the browser to tablet to phone and not have anything in a different spot.

bigyabai•11m ago
> You should make your applications good native citizens

It's time to retire this dead meme. The most successful SAASes in the world are just websites that people pay for hand-over-fist regardless of what OS they use. Netflix doesn't use Liquid Glass, Spotify doesn't bother. Google Docs isn't going to inherit it and probably neither will Office 365. Websites online by-and-large won't adopt this design either.

The ideal of everyone taking the time to make a sexy native UI is appealing. But it's never going to fully be realized, especially when OEMs resist basic A11Y obligations and insist on battery-draining eye candy.

nkrisc•12m ago
Almost nobody uses both an iPhone and Android for their day to day use. It doesn’t matter if your iOS and Android apps don’t look share the same design language, no one is going to see both of them.

Integrate into each OS as much as you can.

kace91•10m ago
honestly I'd wait for a while - betas are changing the design each time, which is its own issue. app devs don't have a fixed target to go for.
windows_hater_7•2h ago
I think there were some nice improvements like changing the cursor in iPadOS to be an arrow instead of a circle. I’m really just shocked at the number of serious bugs in the updates. My Apple Watch is sometimes 7 minutes faster than the actual time. MacOS is the worst though. I don’t remember the last time I experienced a kernel panic, but today my Mac crashed because of a DMA translation fault.
frizlab•2h ago
Fun, I actually preferred the circle. I loved the shape changing into the element it was hovering; I miss that a lot.
zobzu•2h ago
liquid glass is dumb. i've no idea what's going on at apple, but it makes zero sense.
lsch1033•2h ago
Sounds like it's the first time you know AAPL. You won't get disappointed if lower your expectations of products from such a company. I am using iPhone SE as a digital wallet / dumb phone, the new UI doesn't make it worse because it's already buggy and nonresponsive. Newer devices on your hands will perform as bad after three years.
fkyoureadthedoc•2h ago
I've been using it since the public beta dropped. I don't get what all the fuss is about, it's fine. Some improvements, some annoyances, but overall fine. I like the newer windowing stuff on iPad.
luxuryballs•36m ago
Yeah interesting, I had the same experience, seems fine on iOS for me using since early beta, have not updated my desktop to Tahoe yet.
deafpolygon•2h ago
Honestly, this article is overblown. It works just fine for me and I don't have any major issues.
dawnerd•2h ago
There's some parts where I'm like that looks nice, but good grief theirs so many bugs. I know they'll be fixed, but how was this ever approved?
DonHopkins•2h ago
Low contrast text over busy backgrounds, from the same asshole coke head designers who brought you the mouse you can't use while it's charging, because their whimsically creative design portfolios are more important than your time and usability.
game_the0ry•2h ago
I am so glad I am not the only one.

I see like 3-5 UI bugs a day in iOS 26. Liquid ass, indeed. Some apple product VP really wanted to be the next Steve Jobs, took 4 steps backwards instead.

I'll probably end up switching to android eventually, and I am bummed about it bc I am an apple fan boy and I like the ecosystem.

nixpulvis•2h ago
> Now, in iOS 26, search has migrated to the bottom of the screen and is always visible.

Holy shit, why?!

Clicking the too of the screen always would bring you back to the top and then search was right there! This is what we get when people cater to the lowest denominator and try holding the hands of people I don't want to be lumped in with.

Animats•1h ago
Remember Aero, in Windows 7? Same translucency concept. Somewhat similar animation. But without the small-screen reuse of space, with text on top of buttons, buttons on top of text and text on top of text.

This seems to be a spinoff of the tendency to put controls on top of vertical video. Amusingly, just as design is focusing on vertical layout, folding phones are coming in.

SomeHacker44•1h ago
I have reduced transparency turned on in iPadOS accessibility forever. However there is so much gratuitous transparency now I can barely use half the features. Why do I need to see behind quick settings to adjust brightness? Or do anything? This new update has made me miserable. It never even asked me if I wanted to upgrade. Which I would never want anyway. I only use one, exactly one app... Foreflight.
jansan•1h ago
My wife, wo is just an average user, likes liquid glass a lot. She said it just looks nice and she did not have any usability issues. It seems us tech people are more critical towards the new UI changes
paulbjensen•1h ago
If they had just increased the blur and made it contrast more.

Also I now have this instinctive feeling that every time I upgrade iOS on my devices, the battery is going to get hammered a bit more.

I would love it if they did for iOS what they did for Mac OS Snow Leopard - no new features, just performance improvements on the existing software.

Of course it might cannibalise iOS device sales, but maybe (just maybe), it would result in improved customer loyalty and commitment to Apple - not just for their hardware but also their software. A case of long-term gains over short-term targets.

frereubu•1h ago
I don't have accessibility issues, but even so I've been a fan of these settings for a few iOS versions now:

  Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Reduce Transparency
  Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Increase Contrast
  Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Differentiate Without Colour
  Settings > Accessibility > Motion > Reduce Motion
  Settings > Accessibility > Motion > Prefer Cross-Fade Transitions
To try and make my phone less interesting so I spend less time on it, I also use Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Colour Filters > Greyscale with Intensity turned up to max so it's black and white. If you set Settings > Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut to Colour Filters you can toggle this with a triple slick of the side button, in case you want to show someone a photo or something.
layer8•1h ago
The trouble with Reduce Transparency on iOS 26 is that it also reduces contrast (irrespective of Increase Contrast).
tcoff91•33m ago
That's absolutely wild.
t-writescode•8m ago
Sounds like a bug. Probably worth reporting it to get it fixed. Historically, Apple’s accessibility features have been best in class.
zakki•1h ago
Hopefully Apple will change its decision on Liquid Glass not too long like that butterfly keyboard.
drob518•1h ago
The article is pretty accurate. I’ve been using IOS 26 for a couple weeks and there is very little to recommend it. Yea, sometimes it looks cool, but many times it doesn’t, and as the article highlights, the usability seems to have gone backwards.
gpm•1h ago
One thing I've never understood is why phone companies push these UI updates to existing devices.

It seems like it

a) Annoys users when their devices change out from under them.

b) Reduces the incentive to buy the new thing with the new fashionable update.

Anyone have any idea why the business case works out the way it does?

wycy•1h ago
Unpopular opinion apparently: I love it. I’ve been using it since beta 1 and it’s grown on me enormously. iOS 18 on my work iPhone felt incredibly dated and I was relieved when we could finally upgrade enterprise devices.
rayiner•1h ago
I thought people were overreacting. But this is rancid. I have an OCD reaction to rubber-banding in the UI (e.g. when a browser content area can’t keep up when resizing a simple page like HN). This has been a smooth operation since OS X 10.3? Tahoe can’t do it on my Mac Mini M1!
glimshe•1h ago
I disabled transparency because I find it objectively harder to see the icons. This is a no brainer. What used to be a clear icon is now mixed with pixels from the background, which are also potentially changing due to animations. I really don't get it.
comrade1234•1h ago
So far the most I've seen is that it's a bit annoying and not set up for working with fingers.

For example, I'm in safari and push the bookmark button and it and the neighboring buttons light up. But my finger is blocking the button I'm pressing so I don't know it's the brightest button. Instead I see the neighboring buttons light up and my brain thinks I'm pressing that.

It's been a few weeks now and you'd think I'd be over it by now but I'm not. I press the screen, a button I don't want lights up, oh no wrong button, oh wait never mind.

merelysounds•1h ago
How much of this can be turned off or otherwise reduced?

And a follow up question: did anyone test whether reducing liquid glass effects improves battery life?

operator-name•1h ago
The article makes an interesting point about the search focus. I wonder if there were plans for AI assisted search? That is a direction that could explain why search became so prominent.
kwar13•1h ago
Feels like liquid glass is some weird preamble to augmented reality so that you get used to the interface.

Thankfully most of the "liquid glassy" things can be undone in the accessibility options on iOS.

npunt•1h ago
TLDR not all perspectives have optimal legibility, but if it's easy to change perspective to achieve optimal legibility, then it might be a good tradeoff if you get other value in return. And phones have gotten bigger, and this is a reset of default device expectation.

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As an app developer I (generally) like liquid glass, it injects some much needed fun and freshness into our devices. It's still rough around the edges and some of these points are very valid, especially around not overdoing it to show off and some text-on-text issues.

However I do think some of the issues raised are based on a different goals around legibility.

I think NNgroup wants all interfaces to be optimally legible at any given moment. I think Apple wants all interfaces to have access to legibility at any given moment, typically by moving the screen a bit.

These are legitimate differences of opinion. A physical metaphor might be that you have a paper with a glass paperweight atop it. If one were to judge a photo of your perspective looking at it as though it were a UI, they might comment that the paper is hard to read in places because of the paperweight.

But in reality, it takes half a second to move that paperweight aside to read the paper, and the paperweight serves another valuable purpose keeping the paper from moving. This is akin to other purposes UI elements serve. It's a balance and a tradeoff.

Just like Steve Jobs pointed out to Round Rects Are Everywhere! [0], the physical world is full of content that obscures other content. What do we do? We turn our head a bit, or move a thing aside. We don't expect the physical world to have optimal legibility at all possible perspectives. While we can (and should) do better in the digital realm, there is a spectrum and the optimal point may not be where NNgroup wants it, especially as the capability of mobile devices reaches and exceeds that of the physical realm.

To address another point this article makes about touch targets:

Prior iOS versions made decisions about spacing between icons that were based on smaller devices (4.7-5.5", or 9.5-13 sq in). iPhones are larger these days (6.1-6.9", or 14-18 sq in), so the physical area of a touch target isn't actually that different, if at all. A big UI refresh is the time to update these kinds of assumptions.

[0] https://www.folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html

nisten•1h ago
Looks like MacOS is finally having it's Windows Vista moment

Meanwhile linux people are removing buttons, window borders entirely, sometimes removing colors too, it's glorious.

kasperset•1h ago
It feels as if it was created for ticking some checkboxes. Not sure what is the motive here. Having said that, personally it has not created any major issues for me though.
justonceokay•1h ago
I remember adding translucent effects to my KDB desktop environment installation in 2008 and coming to the same conclusion
jasonvorhe•1h ago
In many of the examples the new UI doesn't actually show true liquid glass but just bad blurry recreations of the basic shapes of it or even better contrast on the icons on the iOS 26 screenshots. Some of it is clearly a matter of taste (spacing in Photos for example) and iOS 26 often has the bigger hitbox for input elements. I wouldn't want to use an iPhone right now regardless until they fixed all the inconsistencies, with the changing Safari ui elements for example.
travisgriggs•1h ago
As I read through the complaints, I'll note that two of my (younger) colleagues love it (mostly). I haven't updated yet, but when I made some observations about what I was seeing, it was defended as "making all the products the same".

It made me wonder if the whining is less about the particulars of liquid glass (I mean, remember the aquagel days of early mac os x), and more of lamenting the unification of design. I personally, just do not believe that there is a design aesthetic where form<->function have a balanced interplay, and users of 8K desktop screens and handheld iPhones are going to want the exact same experience. Similiarities maybe. But not the same thing.

eschaton•36m ago
Do they actually like it or do they like that it’s new?

So many people treat things that just work and are stable as “stale” and “unexciting” and demand change for change’s sake, rather than actual measurable improvement.

LauraMedia•1h ago
I've actually pointed out some of the issues right after that first trailer myself [1].

Back then, I was sure Apple's designers (who I would see as very competent) would course-correct. What has been shown clearly was a "mood trailer" to me. Actually implementing this design would surely make them understand that they would need to dial back some of those effects for readability.

For a while, they seemed to have done that, utilizing frosted glass more than in the initial trailers. Recent betas however seemed like they are slowly converting back to full-glass with all the known usability issues.

I really don't know who at Apple thought "dark text on almost fully transparent button with dark background" was a good idea.

[1] https://laura.media/blog/liquid-glass-is-unreadable-now-what...

nipperkinfeet•51m ago
I've always had an Android phone, but since my parents have Apple devices, I'm the one who has to help them with any technical issues.

I tried to minimize the horrible glass design as much as possible because they couldn't see the text bleeding through the background. In my opinion, Liquid Glass is the worst design I have ever seen. It looks like a crappy GeoCities design from 1999. The team who designed it should be fired and replaced with people who priorities a professional appearance and usability.

tmarsden•41m ago
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Liquid Glass redesign was something they had to push out the door to distract from the absolute trainwreck that is Apple Intelligence.
kevinsundar•48m ago
I know im in the minority but I have a car (Mazda) that has CarPlay but no touch screen, so you have to scroll through the elements on the screen with a wheel.

iOS 26 is terrible on it. They decided to use gray as their selection color where it used to be a blue outline. So now I need to, while driving, visually hunt for a gray color to see what im about to select.

Even worse the gray color can either be the background of a target OR a border around the target, it's not consistent.

shantara•46m ago
I'm an iOS developer and for the last decade and a half I've been updating most of my Apple devices to the new version of iOS on day 1. I knew it meant bugs, but the excitement of trying shiny new features has greatly overshadowed the potential issues. iOS/macOS 26 have become the first exception for this rule.

I strongly dislike Liquid Glass and would avoid upgrading for as long as possible. I would also delay updating both my personal and my work apps for the new design language. It is a massive usability downgrade, and it undoes all the effort I put into implementing accessibility related features in my apps. The negative sentiment has also been universally shared among my colleagues and other iOS devs I've talked about.

It is a major factor why I decided to skip an iPhone update for another year. I'd rather continue using my older device despite its dwindling battery life than be forced to use glass-based iOS version. Together with Apple's adversarial attitude to the regulation compliance in EU, its become increasingly more difficult to find any excitement in my dev job, and I find myself spending more and more time with my Linux desktop over my MBP.

btbuildem•43m ago
The worst part of it is they'll dig in their heels and absolutely refuse to admit to their mistakes -- doubling down on this UX downgrade for years to come.

On the phone, sure, whatever -- but on a work machine?! It's infuriating.

TimTheTinker•40m ago
My primary gripe with operating systems and computing hardware (besides functionality issues) is usually that form is failing to follow function.

iOS 7's primary failure was that in ditching skeuomorphism (which wasn't entirely the wrong idea), it went too far and lost visual metaphor, not to mention most of the delightfulness and genuine beauty) Visual metaphor is the link between form and function.

iOS 26 and macOS 26 fails because they prioritize the "liquid glass" idea such that function is forced to follow form, not the other way around. Hence there's a lot of hard-to-read text, hard-to-discern visual boundaries, and big ugly one-off compromises (like the Music.app controls in the Songs grid view placed on top of the grid itself, with some transparency).

luxuryballs•40m ago
I feel like they did it on purpose to set the stage for Apple Vision to not seem as hard to look at and then they’ll dial it back a bit, but maybe that’s giving them too much credit.
bee_rider•39m ago
Sometimes I would do things like put a video underneath my terminal, using transparency so I could watch a movie while coding. However,

1) I am a dumbass, not a trillion dollar or whatever design company

2) I never managed to come up with something as stupid looking as that mailbox screenshot

shawkinaw•35m ago
I appear to be in the minority here, but I really like Liquid Glass on iPhone, Apple Watch, and especially Apple TV. But I do hate it on the Mac, the window borders are so thick and rounded, I really can’t stand it.
hshdhdhj4444•34m ago
After 16 years of using exclusively iPhones, barring a few months with Windows Phone 7 and 1 week with a Samsung phone a decade ago, I’m almost certainly moving over to Android with my next phone purchase.

There’s very little Apple can do to prevent that at this point because the way Apple operates, with its hardware only running its own software and its software only running largely on its own hardware, it requires a tremendous amount of trust on my part to use Apple. Trust that they won’t screw me over.

But at this point the pot has boiled over. At least Android allows me to mitigate the damage by switching over to a different phone manufacturer altogether (if not changing the software experience on my existing phone dramatically).

Being in the Apple ecosystem leaves one with no such escape hatch.

Right now besides the M and A series of processors it’s hard to tell if there’s anything in the Apple stable that is genuinely superior for my actual life.

Something as simple as the Android ability to pin live scores for games on your screen across apps makes a much greater positive difference to my life than anything iOS 26 appears to have (other than maybe better spam call screening…something Androidnhas had for years).

b_e_n_t_o_n•24m ago
I like it, but regardless of one's aesthetic opinions I think an important thing people are missing is the move towards UI elements being overlays on top of content instead of sandwiching or interleaving with content. This is very apparent on some apps like iOS Safari, Maps, etc. The general idea is your app content is a full screen/window canvas and your UI sits on top of it, which allows it to get out of the way of the content. I actually really like this move. The transparency serves a purpose here, it helps retain that full size appearance even when UI elements are visible. The glass effects essentially serve as a way to generate some contrast while still making the underlying content visible. Even with large UI elements on screen like sidebars, you still get the feeling that the content is prominent. I think this is going to influence how I build my own web ui's moving forward.
kace91•8m ago
This intended effect is clearly not achieved when the final result looks busier, animates and shines to rob attention from the content and reduces visibility.
b_e_n_t_o_n•6m ago
I don't agree with that assessment.
bigyabai•4m ago
If this is how you're going to build your web UIs going forward, take note from Apple here - add an A11Y mode. These changes exclusively harm the overall contrast of the UI and it's unfair to expect visually impaired users to deal with your visual clutter for the sake of r/unixporn eye candy.

I think you'll quickly realize that static text content has a much more appreciable "reader mode" quality that isn't a slog to look at. There's oodles of colorslop in Liquid Glass that serves no purpose but to distract the user.

mnls•12m ago
Thank you Apple for this update. You saved me so much money because I won’t buy another Apple product.

I find it unacceptable that people pay that kind of money for iPhones and iPads etc and have to deal with bugs, bubbles, readability issues with a theme that looks like a terrible 2011 android skin. And that’s a trillion dollar company.

Staying on 18, till iPhone dies.

darkteflon•12m ago
“text on top of text” is the real money shot. Even someone completely without design taste or strong preferences (ie me) can see that that is a hilariously bad idea.

I’ll be sticking with the previous iOS / MacOS versions as long as possible.

schrodinger•5m ago
Poor article.

Chose worst-case images to make Messages look as bad as possible.

Same with the stacked, floating UI items.

And the "search bar" change causing us to re-learn habits? NOT TRUE. The old way works too; but now there's a discoverable alternative.