Germany's Schleswig-Holstein Completes Migration to Open Source Email

https://news.itsfoss.com/schleswig-holstein-email-system-migration/

118•sebastian_z•2h ago

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hnspammers•1h ago

I’m trying to read this but I keep getting popups and redirects. WTF?

sebastian_z•1h ago

Here is an archived version: https://archive.ph/H2IKF

tcfhgj•1h ago

works fine with Firefox + uBlock Origin

PeterStuer•1h ago

No problemon vanilla android chrome.

vachina•1h ago

Look at the username. Troll account.

lousken•1h ago

where does open-xchange store its source code? github repos seem to be outdated

colechristensen•1h ago

Looks like a self-hosted gitlab

https://gitlab.open-xchange.com/

nine_k•1h ago

In short: 30k users, 40k mailboxes, 100M emails and calendar entries migrated. The client is Thunderbird. The server / web side is handled by Open-Xchange, hosted by a local provider with the same name (AFAICT), which also offers commercial licensing for the otherwise-AGPL suite.

Aldipower•1h ago

Schleswig-Holstein is even harder to pronounce then Massachusetts.

shevy-java•1h ago

Hmmm. I am not sure.

"Hol" is short. Stein is like a beer keg or stein beer.

Schleswig is a bit awkward of a word. But Holstein should be easier, also there is the Holstein cow, black-white fur.

baxtr•1h ago

What about Connecticut though?

flohofwoe•1h ago

Arkansas takes the crown I think.

ralfd•53m ago

For people never hearing an American say that: It is pronounced "Ar-kan-saw". It is written so strangely because it was named by the French and their stupid silent s.

f1shy•17m ago

Is it Ar-kan-saw, or Ar-kan-Sah?

tclancy•1h ago

I just go with The Nutmeg State. Much clearer for everyone.

(As a RI/ NH New England lifer, I, as is typical of us, think of Connecticut as New York's attic: a place you hide that which you don't need anymore but it would be gauche to throw out.)

qwertfisch•1h ago

If you can read the phonetic alphabet, the pronunciation is given on both the German and English Wikipedia page for Schleswig-Holstein. But the English page gives an English variant, not the original (and correct) German pronunciation.

jschoe•49m ago

It's quite easy for English speakers.

Sh-less-wig Hole-stein or Shlayz-wig Hole-stein.

markus_zhang•1h ago

I vaguely remember this area from my history classes. Was it one of the two areas grabbed from Holland?

MarcusE1W•1h ago

jamesblonde•1h ago

There was a war over it in 1864, as the Prussians grew to become Germany taking the land from Denmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Schleswig_War

throw-qqqqq•1h ago

> Was it one of the two areas grabbed from Holland?

Denmark, but being dutch/danish is very commonly confused in the US :D

flohofwoe•56m ago

You're probably thinking of Denmark. TL;DR:

    Saxons => Danes ================> Prussia => Germany

Podrod•25m ago

Not quite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleswig%E2%80%93Holstein_que...

shevy-java•1h ago

This should be quicker. It is time to end the US hegemony in Europe.

not_that_d•1h ago

I wonder if they will dedicate resources to help the development of their open source tools?

rowanG077•1h ago

In stark contrast to the dutch taxes division moving fully to office 365 this month.

fanatic2pope•45m ago

Interesting. Apparently they are planning to spend €2 million a year just to keep manual backups of critical data in case the US cuts off access.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/10/dutch-tax-office-moves-emai...

Ringz•41m ago

Ok… that’s odd. Wouldn’t expect anything like this from the Dutch government, since they have a very progressive digital image in Europe.

usrnm•33m ago

For the past 15 years being progressive meant moving everything to the (US-owned) cloud

andrepd•30m ago

Image ≠ reality :)

vee-kay•57m ago

Indian government announced its decision recently to migrate the IT software of all its government offices and PSUs (public sector units) from Microsoft to Zoho (an India-based IT company, whose affordable products are good alternatives to Microsoft and Google's products).

Zoho has recently (re)launched Ulaa browser (Chromium fork, alternative to Chrome and Firefox) and Arattai (messenger app, alternative to Whatsapp and Singal), which are getting quite popular (Arattai and Ulaa topped Google Play Store recently in messenger and browser category).

https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/meet-ulaa-zoho-s-a...

Ringz•51m ago

Good news but it would be much better if Zoho would be committed to open source its software.

tamimio•55m ago

It's a great move. I doubt it will add any substantial security measures, but the fact that more people -either individuals, organizations, or even governments- are disconnecting from the major big tech players is always a good sign and a healthy approach, especially when these few big companies are actively becoming hostile towards their users with different money-grab tactics and invasive technologies. Add to that AI craziness, and you are not a user anymore but a minion or a drone to such companies.

kwar13•53m ago

It is really important to not build your national infrastructure around closed-source proprietary software that other nations control.

I lived in Latin America for a year. It is shocking how much everything relies on WhatsApp. I got everything from visa appointments, airline tickets, to restaurant bookings in WhatsApp.

Huge national security in my view.

clvx•32m ago

It used to piss me off now I despise it.

Another massive problem is if Meta has a fit with your organization, they can ban you from using WhatsApp for Business. All these Latam countries should and must pass regulations to avoid this kind of behavior. Free market all you want but if you captured market, it’s the nation’s responsibility to ensure their people can get the best service even if these companies are hating each other.

f1shy•20m ago

Yes. Absolutf*kingeverything is whatsup. That was annoying at the beginning.

But: people there are practical and flexible. It would take days to a month to migrate, what is impossible in firat world, just take Germany as an example.

Also whatsapp is e2e encrypted, so not so bad. In Germany many things go over FAX or mail, totally unencrypted…

croemer•1m ago

What is "firat world"?

kwar13•52m ago

So weird how HN ranking system works. Same article submitted 2 days ago barely got any traction:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45538928

Nathanael_M•14m ago

I hope we get regular updates. Email deliverability is a frustration outside of the M365/Gmail ecosystems, but it’s not as bad as it’s sometimes made out to be, and I’m optimistic that increased rigour with the implementation of SPF/DMARC/DKIM will lead to better deliverability across the board. I’m curious if they see increases/decreases in spam, missed messages, successful phishing attempts, etc. Lastly, I’d love to know if they have had to change any security policies, and how are they handling identity management across the organization.

stackskipton•5m ago

As former email admin, it’s not bad if someone is dedicated to it and you have your own block of IP. It’s frustrating for self hosting because lack of your IPs and most people don’t want spend free time on this busy work.

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