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We Found That More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will
52•ceejayoz•3mo ago

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legitster•3mo ago
That's shockingly far lower than I would have expected given the amount of indiscriminate and reckless arrests they are making. I'm guessing for every US citizen that has been arrested there are dozens or hundreds of legal immigrants as well.

You can't even claim the stories of violent illegal arrests are a couple of bad apples. The whole point of hiding their names and faces is to make prosecuting individual bad actors borderline impossible.

like_any_other•3mo ago
> The whole point of hiding their names and faces is to make prosecuting individual bad actors borderline impossible.

There is at least one other reason:

Keffiyeh-clad anti-ICE protester threatens to stab agent, harm family in San Francisco mob attack; Four ICE agents were injured as protesters punched, pepper-sprayed and ambushed them outside the courthouse - https://www.foxnews.com/us/keffiyeh-clad-anti-ice-protester-...

Yes, ICE agents and their families have been extensively doxxed. Multiple Department of Homeland Security sources confirm that ICE officers and their family members have had their personal information, photos, and locations posted online, putting them in grave danger. - https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/ice-agents-doxxed-8...

fabian2k•3mo ago
That's only the number the journalists could figure out, as the article states at the top the government doesn't track this number.
IT4MD•3mo ago
This thread has to go. so sayeth dang, keeper of all words, allower of some.
yodon•3mo ago
>This thread has to go. so sayeth dang, keeper of all words, allower of some.

The HN algorithm is and has always been optimized to rank up posts that contain well-mannered discussions and to penalize threads that contain poor-mannered discussions. In practice, that means ranking up topics around which there is general consensus and ranking down topics where there is strong disagreement. That stems from a thesis that visitors come to this site for well mannered discussions and that the cost in long term user behavior from poor behavior makes any such topic counterproductive to have at the top of the list, regardless of the topic and regardless of the importance of the topic.

The topic here is almost certain to bring out activity that the system views as signals of disagreement, meaning it is algorithmically almost guaranteed to be down ranked, if it hasn't already been.

IT4MD•3mo ago
I have personal experience with Dang on this topic, so while I don't doubt you, I also have a point here.
mdhb•3mo ago
And you were entirely correct. Yet another garbage moderation move.
chequoredDaemon•3mo ago
Lol.

Someday moderators will be replaced by A.I.

I welcome that day.

IT4MD•3mo ago
Garbage or not, I disagree with removing an entire pie slice from discussions because reasons.