Who’s working on gene editing for IQ maxxing?
Tell that to Pakistan, Taiwan, Cambodia, Korea and checks notes Tibet.
America’s cultural projection was similarly local while the British Empire reined.
What dispute do they have with Pakistan? You mean India?
You’re the one who straw manned to territorial disputes!
Beijing culturally projects in Pakistan. Capitalism with Chinese characteristics, a growing prevalence of Mandarin being taught as a second language [1], requiring Islamabad embrace Beijing’s foreign policy, et cetera.
(To be clear, this seems fine. Both Pakistan and Russia have proven dangerously incompetent as fully sovereign states. Perhaps being under Beijing is more stable and prosperous.)
[1] https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202210/19/WS634f462aa310f...
Hong Kong, Xinjang (yep, that was a country), and the very barely kind-of existing Tibet and Mongolia.
Nobody contests that the U.S. projects power and culture globally.
> Taiwan wouldn't even exist if it weren't backed by forgeign powers, namely the US and UK
…this is true for most countries on the planet. Including the US and UK.
> US dropped 2.7 million tons of bombs on Cambodia. The US has conducted thousands of drone strikes in Pakistan, and of course, they fought a war in Korea
How is this relevant to whether China projects its culture?
China's projects power into the Red Sea and Central Asia, and is building bases to project further into the Persian Gulf, the Gulf of Thailand, South Atlantic and Coral Sea. (Also ironic to reference Tibet and China's borders in the same sentence. In imperial terms, China, Indonesia, Libya and Russia stand alone in having annexed by force, since WWII, the sovereign land of other nations that weren't their colonisers.)
Examples of cultural projection outside Asia are rarer, given Chinese power projection as a whole is newer, but one would expect to see--as it's happened in its vicinity, as it happened in America's vicinity first--Chinese-language and cultural institutions following economic interests. (It's already happening, but not significantly enough yet to be of note. Most current objections from locals are around the migration and settlement of ethnic Chinese workers in their communities.)
Anyways understanding China as if it were one giant entity operating in lockstep is peak western thinking.
They also have different values, so sometimes their movies and TV seem a little "off" for us. We don't find the same things funny, or heroic.
Any chinese here that can share their view?
No, that's actually completely untrue. Chinese (and Japanese too) has no problem to copy your IP, but they will fight tooth and nail to protect theirs. Nintendo is great example of that (look into history how they got big) for China it was recently when EU wants tech transfer in exchange for dropping tariffs on cars, which Chinese are not keen on at all.
There are organizations aside from the Chinese government that speak Chinese and could translate into other languages. I'm thinking specifically of any news reporting organization.
> They also have different values
They also span five different time zones. The values are no more consistent in their society then it is in any other.
Having said that, we do get some of the biggest games, movies and apps.
The simple answer is that they are still in the "copying" stage.
China is what, like 30k GDP on a PPP basis? I think they are still in the stage where the marginal returns on simply copying stuff are higher than frontier research for most of the industries they are in.
They don't have the problem of something like Switzerland, where we need to figure out what a 110k GDP PPP looks like (the countries above us right now cannot be replicated for obvious reasons). China can mix match its way to 40,50,60,70k PPP for the next 10 years.
I don’t have firsthand experience, but I have heard that China is attempting to restructure their education programs which have been historically 100% aimed at test taking which is not a good way to produce leaders, original thought, and value to society. The elites of China still send their children abroad to study.
Well, a test, the "Gaokao". There's your explanation. You need to know math, and of course exactly how Xi Jingping (and the CCP) is a god and the solution to all the worlds problems (there's 3 volumes about it which you have to know by hard: "习近平谈治国理政")
Looks like (three of) this book: https://www.amazon.com/Xi-Jinping-Governance-Simplified-Chin...
If anything, Chinese people outside of China show that their education aimed at test taking works damn well. China doesn't let them out anymore, but it's not lack of ability.
Chinese manufacturing methods currently surpass America’s in many domains.
More directly, China is poorer than America per capita. A smart kid given few resources will be outperformed by a duller kid in a gifted environment. That’s slowly changing, however, which is where this turns into a forward-looking risk.
> anyways understanding China as if it were one giant entity operating in lockstep is peak western thinking
This is a lazy dismissal. I’ve seen the same thinking in India and Japan. Stereotyping foreign cultures as monoliths is conserved for obvious reasons across human civilisation.
So there are rich kids in China. And while inequality means per-capita less rich kids, but they tend to be much richer than a US rich kid, and China is easily 5 times bigger, so ... no shortage of very rich kids. And yes, some of them are smart.
https://www.instagram.com/richkidsofchina/
So no, it is not that there are no smart kids with resources in China. In fact quite the opposite.
Perhaps it's like most countries outside of the west. I've seen this play out several times with Iranians. It's the environment, the government, the ideology. Iranians, the ones that managed to maintain some wealth, know what they're doing. They're pretty smart. A bunch of them go back every few years. In Iran, they don't achieve much. Outside of Iran, they achieve a lot. The same people. At least there resources would be a better explanation, but that's not it. In reality the Iranian state will brutally stamp out any public display of culture (because Iranian culture is anything but islamic. In fact, don't even call it Iranian. It's Persian). So what's left is Persians outside of Iran and drug parties.
Accepting this as fact is peak western thinking.
https://www.nature.com/nature-index/news/nature-index-resear...
alexfromapex•3mo ago
avgDev•3mo ago
I feel like high iq people are more likely to succeed in the USA, than a communist country. This comes from someone whos parents grew up and lived in a communist nation.
alexfromapex•3mo ago
Some of the high IQ individuals are succeeding in USA but definitely not even close to all of them.
quantumcotton•3mo ago
So, are they suppressed? I highly doubt that's the proper word.
Less ambitious? Perhaps, but not suppressed.