It will sell for a lot more than it's competition. It won't have a significant upside apart from being a shorter supply chain, and it will have a french metric tonne of non-US components and dependencies, without a great deal of hurt.
None of this means he shouldn't do it. To the contrary. It's necessary, and it should probably be funded.
If I had to rank concerns, outsourcing smart device management to Asia in the power and utility sector at large would be my #1 and #2 would be the lack of an independent supply chain for portable devices, because they go everywhere
bigyabai•3mo ago
My primary concern is that Palmer Luckey has shown himself to be an enormously unprincipled individual. He might build the best laptop on the planet, but I could never trust him to not sell out to Meta.
ggm•3mo ago
Thats a "yes, but not him" or "not like that" response.
Look, I get it. We hate the top. It totally shits me to know my services are backed by Oracle, because I don't like Mr Ellison. But I didn't like Jobs, and yet I (and half the western hemisphere) use his product.
If we're going to go all "I cant trust him" on this, look no further than what people think about any ICT provider, anywhere in the supply chain.
Sometimes, the ones who persist surprise me. I had no idea the panasonic toughbook would simply go on. Or a post-IBM sale Lenovo. If you'd told me SONY would wind up being irrelevant at scale except for headphones, Toshiba would cease to sell consumer product in most of the west, Hell that Digital Equipment would wind up being bought by Compaq, trashed, and then sold to HP...
techblueberry•3mo ago
I mean I don’t use any Facebook products and won’t use any Facebook products? Nothing wrong with being brand conscious, and I don’t like the brand.
I assert the world would only be a better place if we had more reasons not to buy shit we don’t need.
ggm•3mo ago
You have to pick your fights. If you decide to boycott AWS for instance, which is totally justified, your surface of risk if you include supply chains to people you aren't boycotting is huge, as we just got reminded.
I have a story about an internet figure who harboured a long term grudge against Adobe and so sought to avoid PDF and that's pretty hard to do. Submitting tender documents is basically impossible. Yes plain ascii should suffice.
bigyabai•3mo ago
Avoiding PDF is a perfectly admirable thing to do. When people avoid Chromium everyone treats them like a royal knight, but with PDFs they're a luddite?
I'll boycott Luckey's laptop just like I boycott Cook's and Pichai's. I don't need the satisfaction of one-man-armying their entire company to smithereens, I simply don't want any of my paycheck furthering their failures of a business. It saves me time, money, and hours of existential dread relating to whether or not I'm the baddie. If they won't stand by their principles, I'm happy to do it for them.
This guy is all over the place and is milking the MIC. I won't be surprised if these laptops are surveillance paradise... you know, to protect America from its foes.
ggm•3mo ago
None of this means he shouldn't do it. To the contrary. It's necessary, and it should probably be funded.
If I had to rank concerns, outsourcing smart device management to Asia in the power and utility sector at large would be my #1 and #2 would be the lack of an independent supply chain for portable devices, because they go everywhere
bigyabai•3mo ago
ggm•3mo ago
Look, I get it. We hate the top. It totally shits me to know my services are backed by Oracle, because I don't like Mr Ellison. But I didn't like Jobs, and yet I (and half the western hemisphere) use his product.
If we're going to go all "I cant trust him" on this, look no further than what people think about any ICT provider, anywhere in the supply chain.
Sometimes, the ones who persist surprise me. I had no idea the panasonic toughbook would simply go on. Or a post-IBM sale Lenovo. If you'd told me SONY would wind up being irrelevant at scale except for headphones, Toshiba would cease to sell consumer product in most of the west, Hell that Digital Equipment would wind up being bought by Compaq, trashed, and then sold to HP...
techblueberry•3mo ago
I assert the world would only be a better place if we had more reasons not to buy shit we don’t need.
ggm•3mo ago
I have a story about an internet figure who harboured a long term grudge against Adobe and so sought to avoid PDF and that's pretty hard to do. Submitting tender documents is basically impossible. Yes plain ascii should suffice.
bigyabai•3mo ago
I'll boycott Luckey's laptop just like I boycott Cook's and Pichai's. I don't need the satisfaction of one-man-armying their entire company to smithereens, I simply don't want any of my paycheck furthering their failures of a business. It saves me time, money, and hours of existential dread relating to whether or not I'm the baddie. If they won't stand by their principles, I'm happy to do it for them.