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Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/trump-pardons-convicted-binance-founder-7509bd63
115•cowboyscott•3h ago

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scrlk•3h ago
https://archive.ph/XRw42
mmayberry•3h ago
Fraud is now legal
greenpizza13•3h ago
As long as you bow to King Trump.
gorjusborg•1h ago
I have no proof of this, but I would bet that there will be some quid-pro-quo involved between Trump and the pardonee. Trump does not usually give things away, he leverages his power to get more power/money.
bayarearefugee•2h ago
If you're already rich and can stomach writing a flattering letter to Dear Leader you're leaving money on the table by not committing massive fraud right now.
Finnucane•58m ago
Fraud has been an essential component of Trump's business his whole life, he clearly doesn't see it as a crime. And the crypto guys have spent a lot of money getting into his good graces. He knows a good grift when he sees it.
wslh•26m ago
Beyond the Trump effect, a lot of fraud has always been "legal", mostly because the victims can't afford to go after the fraudsters.
taylodl•3h ago
I'm impressed. Leavitt managed to Blame the Biden administration, effectively asserting that Zhao's crimes were a result of the Biden administration's "war on crypto." Never mind that Zhao was engaged in criminal activity for which he was prosecuted, tried, and found guilty.
nickff•2h ago
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Zhao was convicted of crimes which were a direct result of his operating a crypto exchange, and not any other criminal activity. It may be possible to operate a legally-compliant crypto exchange, but I am not sure that any current exchange is fully compliant with US law. If we agree on these facts, and think that the 'war on drugs' is what has resulted in 'drug possession' and 'drug trafficking' convictions, then it seems reasonable to say that Zhao was convicted as the result of a 'war on crypto'.

I am actually not sure that either the 'war on drugs' or a 'war on crypto' is a bad idea, but they do seem analogous.

mullingitover•2h ago
> and not any other criminal activity

He made a lot of money from the other criminal activity. That's what money laundering is: just because you're not directly trafficking children, for example, doesn't mean you have clean hands when you make significant profits from the people who are.

nickff•1h ago
What you're describing is (in my view) the best casus belli for both the 'war on drugs' and a 'war on crypto', but a moral case does not make a criminal case (on its own).
mullingitover•1h ago
I don't even necessarily think a 'war on crypto' is needed. The problem is that crypto seems to function as a get out of jail free card for very straightforward financial crimes: you just do the financial crime, but apply a thin veneer of 'but with crypto' and the legal system is utterly bamboozled.

Crypto's problem is that when the law is updated to deal with these stunts, it's suddenly just a crappy version of the existing financial system.

nickff•1h ago
I completely agree that crypto is being used as an end-run (if you'll pardon the expression) around the existing financial oligopoly, whose regulatory burden is paid for by the monopoly rents extracted by the government-endorsed players. The problem is that criminal laws aren't being maximally applied against banks, so instances like this do give the appearance of 'unfairness'.
wmf•1h ago
The CEOs of Coinbase, Gemini, Kraken, etc. have not been indicted for anything. Those exchanges have had some compliance issues but they were minor compared to Binance, FTX, BitMEX, etc.
sunshine-o•2h ago
Changpeng Zhao pled guilty for violating the Bank Secrecy Act and not complying with anti-money laundering requirements.

That also happened to a lot of big banks over and over again.

Three days ago one of the biggest was found guilty for helping Sudan’s government commit genocide by providing banking services that violated American sanctions [0]. Sounds worst.

Binance is a casino for millennial and gen Z and like casinos is used by criminal to launder money.

Should Changpeng Zhao be pardoned? I don't know, I don't care he is a small fish.

Should BNP CEO serves prison time? probably.

- [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bnp-paribas-shares-fall-us-17...

keernan•2h ago
>>Representatives of the Trump family have held talks to take a financial stake in the U.S. arm of Binance.
insane_dreamer•2h ago
Most corrupt president in living memory (ever?) pardons convicted corrupt businessman, while directly profiting from said corrupt businessman's industry

Years ago people would have thought you were talking about the DRC, Haiti or Uzbekistan. Today's it's the USA.

bdavisx•2h ago
Serious question - it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal in some way or the other. I know that government officials are shielded from a lot of actions so they can not be prosecuted.

What actions that have been taken could actually be prosecuted? For example, I would have to assume that the ballroom demolition and build-out is illegal, there were $0 appropriated from Congress for this, and it doesn't seem like direct donations would be legal either. They are donations to the government and Congress has to appropriate that money too.

NOTHING is going to happen while the Republicans control congress, period. What could be done when the next administration comes in? Not just about the ballroom, but the various other things like this pardon. What of these actions are prosecutable?

ksherlock•1h ago
"Well, when the president does it ... that means that it is not illegal" -- Richard Nixon (1977)

"Well, when the president does it ... that means that it is not illegal" -- SCOTUS (2024)

That leaves impeachment as the only legal remedy, which you've correctly identified as not a possibility with the current congress.

shoemakersteve•29m ago
His two previous impeachments don't seem to have slowed him down, so it seems unlikely that a third would be any different. Not to mention his felony conviction.
JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal

Many are. This one is not. The President has sweeping pardon powers.

The solution is to strike the final phrase in Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution: “and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” [1].

There isn’t a place for one-man pardons in a republic. If the courts overreach, address it through legislation. (Even the imperium-obsessed Romans didn’t give their dictators, much less consuls, automatic pardon power. Caesar had to get special legislation to overrule the law.)

With Presidents of both parties having so recently abused pardons, we may be in a place where a wave could pass a Constitutional amendment at the federal level, allowing it to be punted to the states.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_Stat...

thijson•1h ago
It seems like whatever party gets into power, suddenly doesn't want to change the system they inherited. I remember Trudeau talking about eliminating first past the post in Canadian elections. But once he got into power he forgot about it.

We need a way to vote for popular ideas via referendum at the federal level. That might get it through.

JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> seems like whatever party gets into power, suddenly doesn't want to change the system

“The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution” [1].

No President. No courts. Partisanship may work to our advantage in a divided government. What you would need, however, to reach two thirds is some members of the President’s party signing on. That could happen if the President is taking a dump in the polls, and the opposition looks likely (but isn’t yet assured) to gain the Presidency next term.

> We need a way to vote for popular ideas via referendum at the federal level

We need a plebiscite institution. But that can be done at state level for Constitutonal amendment approval. What we don’t want is direct democracy proposing amendments. California is a modern example of why republics are more stable than pure democracies, for anyone who forgot about Athens.

everfrustrated•30m ago
In history generally the only way governments are ever restructured is through civil war (or invasion).
seanmcdirmid•15m ago
Uhm, the Republicans will change their mind quickly when the next Democrat president takes control with the expanded powers they inherited from the Trump administration (even the Supreme court doesn't like to contradict itself so quickly). I'm pretty sure...if America survives at all, we will have a constitutional convention really soon that push through changes because the current status quo has become an unstable mess.
perihelions•1h ago
> "Many are. This one is not. The President has sweeping pardon powers."

I understand it's debatably possible to prosecute the public corruption that motivated a pardon, even though the pardon act itself is unreviewable. I.e., the DoJ attempted a criminal bribery investigation of Bill Clinton's pardon of the donor Marc Rich,

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/15/us/us-is-beginning-crimin... ("U.S. is beginning criminal inquiry in pardon of Rich" (2001))

> "Some lawyers have said that proving such a case could be exceedingly difficult because bribery cases usually required the cooperation of one of the parties. Moreover, contributions to political parties or to Mr. Clinton's library foundation are legal, and the president's pardon authority is unreviewable."

I assume similar logic might apply to World Liberty Financial and Trump's CZ pardon.

onlyrealcuzzo•25m ago
> For example, I would have to assume that the ballroom demolition and build-out is illegal, there were $0 appropriated from Congress for this, and it doesn't seem like direct donations would be legal either.

Maybe it's funded by the $230M he's demanding from the Department of Justice?

anigbrowl•3m ago
[delayed]
skm12•2h ago
- Zhao has ties to World Liberty Financial, a crypto venture that Trump and his sons Eric and Donald Jr. launched in September.

- Trump’s most recent financial disclosure report reveals he made more than $57 million last year from World Liberty Financial

dgrr19•1h ago
they just reported 1B from crypto ventures, so 57m seems like lunch money...
cedws•2h ago
Is there any way to read this other than Trump is cuddling up to crypto because it’s a tool for him and his cronies to make dodgy money?
zeld4•1h ago
in this particular case maybe. but i don't think he's pardoning only crypto people. as long as criminals can offer sth useful to him, they will get above the law.
dredmorbius•1h ago
Additional coverage (from other HN submissions):

QZ: <https://qz.com/trump-pardon-binance-changpeng-zhao>

Reuters: <https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pardons-convicted-bin...>

The Guardian: <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/23/binance-t...>

perihelions•1h ago
Key line:

> "Since Trump’s election, Binance has also been a key supporter of his family’s World Liberty Financial crypto venture, a business that has driven a huge leap in the president’s personal wealth."

"Huge leap" meaning $5 billion,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-wlfi-world-liberty-financ... ("New crypto token boosts Trump family's wealth by $5 billion")

b3ing•1h ago
So is Friedman next?
cool_man_bob•1h ago
Didn’t he donate to the wrong guy?
spprashant•36m ago
No issues. Trump can forgive almost anything for the right price.
tartuffe78•1h ago
It's a good thing Trump is as old as he is. Imagine if a 50 year old had this much influence over his party, could ignore any law, and stole this much money.

May I never live to see such a thing happen in the US, but it doesn't feel unlikely.

platevoltage•1h ago
We better hope JD Vance isn't able to capture the cult of personality after Trump is gone.
spprashant•37m ago
JD Vance is a great debator, and might appeal to some urban Republic voters. But I don't see him having and away on the rural voters like Trump does.
cool_man_bob•33m ago
I’m very confused. Rural voters can connect with a dynastic NYC real estate developer, but Vance at least has origins much closer to typical Americans.

Is it just media nostalgia? Trump was on the TV shows they liked and so they trust him more?

cg5280•19m ago
A lot of politicians have tried to replicate Trump’s style with limited success. We could probably debate forever what it is about Trump that makes him unique. I think his crude and abrasive personality won people over; it felt authentic and cathartic. Nowadays I think he has immense inertia.
sieep•11m ago
I remember hearing a lot of sentiment mid-2010s about how since he was a successful businessman that he will make good decisions in the White House. America was longing for someone that wasn't 'status quo', so to say.

I agree with you on the personality side, but I also think his overall fame from TV, real estate, etc. is just as big a factor to his political success.

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