See, that’s the single „nice“ thing about the fascists taking over the country — you can see which companies really meant to make a change, and which companies merely swam with the current.
retinaros•3mo ago
the facist rant is insanity. money isnt free and DEI is old news. even blackrock understood he couldnt milk it. If you want to solve women in tech you need to make more women study tech and not favor them for the jobs they don’t deserve if they are not fit for it. its statistics 101. they are overrepresented in tech jobs vs the number of women graduating in tech.
ericmcer•3mo ago
Downvoted but you are kind of right.
The most clear example of this was Indians flooding tech in the early 2000s. Like this was a few years after 9/11 when brown dudes with accents were facing crazy discrimination, but India had really strong STEM education and was turning out good programmers so they got jobs. If the industry blocked qualified individuals based on prejudice how the heck were middle eastern looking dudes killing it directly after 9/11?
Dig1t•3mo ago
>Google told employees that it would no longer set diversity hiring targets
Diversity hiring targets are by definition discrimination based on immutable characteristics. How is equality in the hiring process “fascist”?
Apple has a similar (illegal) hiring policy.
>Apple’s Vice President of Core OS – Software Engineering, Jon Andrews
>We’ve made some changes to the way we do manager hiring … There’s two questions at the top of an offer when it goes to approval. One is that a female was interviewed and that a URE [underrepresented employee] was interviewed. And … for management positions, I have said that I won’t approve an offer unless there’s a yes next to one of those.
Ah yes, the classic - a European guy who was born in Europe, lives in Europe, works in Europe, who's decided to come to a US-based forum, to a thread about a US-based company, that breaks multiple rules, to add in their political take / rant about the supposed "fascist take over" of the US. Surely this is really constructive, surely this is what belongs here.
ManuelKiessling•3mo ago
So… I‘m not allowed to have and express an opinion about the state of affairs in the US, because I‘m from Europe?
And why doesn’t this belong here, exactly? Don’t you think it’s interesting to see how quickly all those companies rudder back their DEI stuff as soon as the weather gets a bit rough — the very same DEI stuff that supposedly was so important and central to their identity and mission just a few months ago?
Do you want to know what doesn’t belong here? Ad hominem attacks.
If you don’t share my opinion, attack me on the content of my post, not on my geographic location.
And yes, whether the US is going into the direction of becoming a fascist state or not is totally up to debate.
But I guess we can all agree: something changed since January.
And it’s interesting, and relevant data, to see which companies stand their previous ground, and which don’t.
ManuelKiessling•3mo ago
retinaros•3mo ago
ericmcer•3mo ago
The most clear example of this was Indians flooding tech in the early 2000s. Like this was a few years after 9/11 when brown dudes with accents were facing crazy discrimination, but India had really strong STEM education and was turning out good programmers so they got jobs. If the industry blocked qualified individuals based on prejudice how the heck were middle eastern looking dudes killing it directly after 9/11?
Dig1t•3mo ago
Diversity hiring targets are by definition discrimination based on immutable characteristics. How is equality in the hiring process “fascist”?
Apple has a similar (illegal) hiring policy.
>Apple’s Vice President of Core OS – Software Engineering, Jon Andrews
>We’ve made some changes to the way we do manager hiring … There’s two questions at the top of an offer when it goes to approval. One is that a female was interviewed and that a URE [underrepresented employee] was interviewed. And … for management positions, I have said that I won’t approve an offer unless there’s a yes next to one of those.
https://aflegal.org/press-release/america-first-legal-demand...
thegrim33•3mo ago
ManuelKiessling•3mo ago
And why doesn’t this belong here, exactly? Don’t you think it’s interesting to see how quickly all those companies rudder back their DEI stuff as soon as the weather gets a bit rough — the very same DEI stuff that supposedly was so important and central to their identity and mission just a few months ago?
Do you want to know what doesn’t belong here? Ad hominem attacks.
If you don’t share my opinion, attack me on the content of my post, not on my geographic location.
And yes, whether the US is going into the direction of becoming a fascist state or not is totally up to debate.
But I guess we can all agree: something changed since January.
And it’s interesting, and relevant data, to see which companies stand their previous ground, and which don’t.
marcusverus•3mo ago