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Milei Wins Mandate for Free-Market Revolution in Argentina's Election

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/milei-wins-mandate-for-free-market-revolution-in-argentinas-election-3be65f38
26•JumpCrisscross•2h ago

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jMyles•2h ago
No big surprise.

I don't agree with a lot of this guy's politics (especially his bizarre lean into intolerance for sexual identity deviance), but I do respect his willingness to calmly talk about his vision for hours.

I'm headed to Buenos Aires in a couple of weeks here, as I imagine many here are. Planning to play a couple of shows (sorry that the announcement is so late, but it's coming soon). What are must-dos while there, especially with respect to live music?

SilverElfin•1h ago
Agree he’s articulate and charismatic, despite being odd. And whatever the outcomes, it feels more coherent than the people he has faced off with.

Must dos - seek out the food you like and make time for it. There is a lot of great food. I recommend finding the best steak at the price you’re willing to pay.

Daishiman•1h ago
> but I do respect his willingness to calmly talk about his vision for hours.

He calls the opposition "rats", "mandrills" and scum of the earth and has a clear and objective disdain for poor people. It's amazing how that part continuously gets left out in neoliberal media.

jMyles•7m ago
Yeah, I agree that coverage of him is unduly fawning.

We're at a weird time in history where the only people saying things that are reasonable are also saying things that are horrible.

sdbbp•1h ago
Try some peñas folklóricas.
jeromegv•44m ago
His views on women:

In November, Argentina was the only country to vote against a UN general assembly resolution to prevent and eliminate violence against women and girls. Two months later, Milei’s administration went further, pledging to strike the aggravating factor of femicide, defined as when a woman dies at the hands of a man on the basis of her gender, from the penal code – a move that drew swift condemnation from human rights groups

terminalshort•4m ago
Correct choice. Murder shouldn't have different penalties for killing men and women.
sebast_bake•21m ago
Must have vacío madurado
kragen•17m ago
The Natural History Museum in La Plata, the National Library, Palacio de Aguas Corrientes, San Telmo antique markets, Palacio Barolo, empanadas, alfajores, ice cream, walk down 9 de Julio, Teatro Colón, tour the Tigre delta in a boat, Casa Saltshaker, graffiti in Palermo near Gorriti and Thames, Teatro Ciego (blind theater, ideally with a MOTAS), go to some protests, Tango Queer, the bullet holes just to the south of the Pink House, choripan on the street outside any train station (if you eat meat), get your phone stolen in La Boca, Recoleta Cemetery, neighborhood cafés, the Thinker in Plaza Congreso, the Jardín Botánico, see a football game, change dollars or Tether on Calle Florida, drink yerba mate with friends in Parque Centenario, go to a telo with a friend or MOTAS, I don't know, I can't think of much.
anigbrowl•1h ago
That's funny given that the US hurriedly organized a $40 billion lifeline for him after he burned through a $20 billion IMF loan earlier this year.
pseudalopex•1h ago
The article after the 1st 2 paragraphs was pay walled. Archives did not work.

1/3 of seats is a mandate?

cosmicgadget•55m ago
A not-horrible alternative:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/27/argentinas-midterm-election-...

I guess the perception is that the growth of his party can be considered a mandate. But yeah, "mandate" and "free-market revolution" seem to indicate an editorial position.

petesergeant•40m ago
I think doubling your support to 41% probably counts in a fractured legislature.
pseudalopex•10m ago
A fractured legislature is evidence no one has a mandate. Increased support is notable. I never saw 41% of votes or 1/3 of seats called a mandate before.
ungreased0675•42m ago
It’s not often that we get to see a country peacefully change direction. I wonder what we’ll be saying about Milei in ten years?
etc-hosts•31m ago
I haven't been able to defeat the paywall here, but what mandate and what revolution, and what is so free market about taking in 20 to 40 billion from the US in exchange for a promise to push Chinese business interests out of the country? At least the Chinese were building stuff in Argentina. The US will just hold stuff hostage like Paul Singer.
mc32•27m ago
It's possible if his movement is successful in AG that it may change the direction of politics in the southern cone from one cozying up to ne'er-do-well socialism to pro-market economies that uplift whole economies. It's also possible it fails and the affair with socialism continues and continues to have southern cone economies under-perform. We shall see.
greyw•2m ago
The south-americans are surprisingly patient. The Argentinians elected Peronists for decades with the unsurprising outcome of decline and ultimately high inflation.
darksaints•17m ago
The thing that a lot of western countries should keep in mind about Milei is that he promised a lot of pain before the prosperity would come...and he did it. Inflation continued for 6 months into his presidency, and then it dropped to levels that haven't been seen for almost a decade. Poverty rates rose for almost a year, but then dropped well below what it was before he took office. GDP dropped for a year, but then rebounded pretty spectacularly. This is more than a year of non-stop naysaying from people who used those things as proof that he was wrong, only to be silenced when he turned out to be right. He hasn't been shy about still needing more help, seeking funding from the IMF and the US, but he has at least proven that what he is doing is working.

I have a million reasons to not like Milei, but he is successfully pulling off something that almost no politician ever does without getting voted out first. Anybody who promises pain has to deal with the constant criticism that comes with that pain, and almost nobody can survive that hit to their popularity. Even if you disagree with how he did it, you have to at least admire that he did what he said he would do.

I think a lot of American liberals have a hatred of him because he's right wing, but we should actually be (at least partially) praising him and pointing out his successes have come from being the exact opposite of Trump on issues like tariffs and deficits.

kragen•15m ago
GDP is still dropping. We just had our third consecutive quarter of negative GDP growth.
dmitrygr•6m ago
GDP is not always a useful metric. An old economics joke:

Two economists are walking in a forest when they come across a pile of shit.

The first economist says to the other “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The second economist takes the $100 and eats the pile of shit.

They continue walking until they come across a second pile of shit. The second economist turns to the first and says “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The first economist takes the $100 and eats a pile of shit.

Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you $100 to eat shit, then you gave me back the same $100 to eat shit. I can't help but feel like we both just ate shit for nothing."

"That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by $200!"

kragen•1m ago
It's not, but it's the metric the person I replied to was using.
kragen•11m ago
This thread should be merged into https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45716844.

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