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Life next to 199 data centres

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93dnnxewdvo
33•easton•2h ago

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jasonthorsness•1h ago
Article makes a huge deal about humming/buzzing but there’s no way that’s a real thing right? What would be the reason it would go beyond like any HVAC-ish thing on a large building? Lost me at the first sentence :(
zamadatix•1h ago
Scale; comparing DC cooling to a large building's is like comparing street noise in a suburb to a highway.

It'd be nice to have some hard data on it though. Sometimes the hum is "god damn, that is annoying!" and other times it's someone saying "20 miles that way they built a DC and now it makes the cell phone tower effects twice as bad in this area" when reality was it doesn't show up as audible a half mile away.

mrweasel•1h ago
I have never visited datacenters that large, but transformer substations can have an audible hum to them. Tests of diesel generators can also produce a bit of noise.

I'm fairly surprised that there aren't zoning laws that prevents datacenters from being built where people live. When we built a fairly small datacenter we had to place it in an industrial area with no housing and no offices.

kraftman•1h ago
I worked in a medium data center and there was no noise outside, no noise from the office in the same building, no noise outside the airlock, very loud inside. Maybe huge datacenters are very different somehow?
xnx•1h ago
> I worked in a medium data center and there was no noise outside

AI datacenters have much larger cooling needs and often use generators

chinathrow•11m ago
> generators

Ahem.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/06/elon-musk-xai-memph...

NoiseBert69•1h ago
I live close to a hospital and they make a generator test run once a month. That's an ultra deep sinus (~30Hz) that's humming along - you can hear it everywhere within the city.

It's was super easy to measure using a Sensirion Differential Pressure sensor. They have a few extremely sensitive models that have a 100Hz sampling rate (50Hz useable after Nyquist) - also: you can sense washing machines (from vibrating buildings) with it 2 blocks away.

DontBreakAlex•1h ago
I once visited a fairly large DC in the outskirts of paris (Scaleway DC5) and it was basically dead silent outside. I guess these large DCs are just build with absolutely no concern for noise pollution?
tuetuopay•30m ago
Scaleway DC5 is large by French standards, rather small by US hyperscaler standards. But the main reason is DC5 does not use classic cooling, thus does not have huge dry coolers outside, which definitely helps for noise (it's adiabatic cooling).

Another fact is just the sheer power density of those problematic north virginia datacenters. I'd bet us-east-1 is not an issue (old building and lower power density), but the newer AI ones are. Just take a look at how much AI clusters eat: a single DGX H200 box with 8 GPUs is 10kW. Most facilities provide 10kW for a whole rack, not 8Us. You're looking at 60kW racks, which is a mental power density: a single aisle trivially gets over the MW threshold. You used to feed rooms with megawatts. Heck, DC5 has 24MW of power, that's only 20000 H200 (again, think hyperscaler scale).

Still about cooling, the load profile is even different. DC5 is a general purpose datacenter, where the load is not full blast. Your AI datacenter has the GPU clusters full blast all the time. That's a LOT of power.

I happen to know pretty well the Scaleway infra and visited others of their datacenters. You can stand centimeters from the noise-dampening wall surrounding the dry coolers and not hear a thing; while almost needing noise protection within the wall.

georgemcbay•1h ago
> Article makes a huge deal about humming/buzzing but there’s no way that’s a real thing right?

There's going to be variation based on how the data center is constructed.

The ones I've seen (which is certainly not all of them, so take it with a grain of salt) in the geographic area that this particular article is about are closed buildings that should be pretty well noise regulated individually, but that's not always the case -- some companies (like Marathon/MARA) have data centers using what are effectively open air designs that don't contain sound very well at all and can easily generate significant noise pollution around them.

And some companies (eg. xAI/grok) are a bit of a hybrid where the main part of the data center is enclosed but they park many loud methane turbines outside of the building for power and those make a lot of noise (and air pollutants).

The basic TL;DR is that it is possible to build data centers that aren't an absolute nuisance to the population around them, but there are plenty of data centers out there that don't meet that goal. And the more these companies try to scale up quickly to meet their perceived "AI" needs, the worse things are getting in terms of noise pollution, air pollution and competing for resources (like water and energy) with local residents, etc.

whooooosh•1h ago
You can look on youtube for any number of videos showing you what it sounds like to be near one of these centers.

For example,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHPKPmoW910

SirFatty•1h ago
If got past the first sentence, you might learn the answer to the question. Substations and power/peaker plants. Maybe not in all cases, but I wouldn't want to live next a building have has row upon row of AC systems running 24 hours a day.
jeron•1h ago
I already live and sleep next to my homelab, which is probably louder than those power plants
alyxya•1h ago
It's sad seeing people impacted by these data centers considering how little voice they have. I don't think anyone wants to live near a data center unless they actually worked there.
SirFatty•1h ago
I wonder how much property value is affected.
ta1243•57m ago
And very few people work there relative to the impact. Sure nobody liked living near factories in ye olden days, but they did like the employment opportunities.

You can see how few work there when you compare the size of the data centre and the size of the car park.

tomhallett•37m ago
But there is an upside to this - you get the benefits of being a city with big business (tax revenue, donations to the local schools, investments in infrastructure), but don't have increased commuter traffic.
dingnuts•21m ago
Did you read the article? It's about Loudoun County, the wealthiest county in the US. The people "affected" both are the ones making the decision about where to put the data centers and the ones profiting off them. Don't lose sleep.

Also, those same people have the most ability to live wherever they want, and can leave. This isn't mountaintop removal in coal country. This is wealthy DC lobbyists being a little annoyed about a hum.

The fact that there's even an article about it is evidence of the fact that the affected are wealthy. The article is their voice. The wealth that allows them to live in Loudoun County is their voice.

alyxya•12m ago
I hadn't heard of Loudoun County before. I also did read the article and here's a sentence from it.

> But while most locals the BBC spoke to opposed the data centres, the industry has many powerful proponents, including US President Donald Trump.

Also moving isn't something to take lightly.

> "I never thought that a data centre would be built across the street from my house," she said. "I would not have bought this house if I had known what was going in across the street."

lemonlime227•35m ago
Ashburn/Loudoun resident here, lived right next to us-east-1 for 10+ years. No, the noise is not impactful. The data centers are very quiet on the outside. More noise comes from Dulles Airport nearby. Main problem is 1. visuals. They are horrendous blobs to look at. 2. land/electricity values. Gone up a lot in the past few years. Happy to answer any questions.
chinathrow•14m ago
Your noise statement is one datapoint, there are others in the article. Who's right regarding the noise?
rdtsc•27m ago
These things are ugly and take up a lot of space. They do have their fans which claim they do not generate that much traffic relative to their size since, they don't have that many people working there. For example, if they were replaced with the same sized office buildings, they'd probably put more strain on the road infrastructure and so on. Also, some of the property taxes collected from DC operators supposedly go to lowering the property taxes of residents in the county.

https://www.loudoun.gov/FAQ.aspx?QID=1793

> said, noting the humming or buzzing noise the centre emits scares away a lot of wildlife from his area

I imagine trees and fields that have been cleared and the roads paved probably play a good part too well.

webdevver•11m ago
god forbid someone builds something. it is very fitting that a british newspaper would be so repulsed by the prospect of industry.

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