Hopefully some people at least get money for food in the mean time.
These two judges were Biden- and Obama-appointed judges but Trump had been losing on executive overreach before Reagan-, Bush- (both) and even Trump-appointed district judges fairly regularly, too.
It's bad enough when Congress and federal agencies attach strings like this but when the executive, like literally the man not the branch, can effectively unilaterally write laws enforced by withholding unrelated funds we've reached a whole new level of throwing out the separation of powers.
And, like everywhere else, many food pantry shelves are empty.
Acrobatic_Road•5h ago
Not irreparable hard. Irreparable harm can NEVER be about money because you can always get the money later. SNAP is just a cash transfer.
cultofmetatron•5h ago
Id argue that not having food because you didn't receive a needed cash transfer, esspecially when children are affected would definitely constitute "Irreparable harm."
Acrobatic_Road•5h ago
If this causes irreparable harm, then by the same precedent, the government would never be allowed to reduce spending on any program that could reduce poor people's income, because they could have spent some of that income on food.
cultofmetatron•5h ago
trenchpilgrim•5h ago
dragonwriter•4h ago
Uh, irreparable harm is just one of several elements of the test for whether a preliminary injunction is warranted while a case is being litigated. It is not, on its own, a bar to government action (otherwise, the death penalty would be illegal without having to make 8th Amendment arguments because it may be debatable whether it is cruel and unusual punishment, but that it is irreparable harm is unmistakable.)
So, no, that's not what this precedent (were it a precedential ruling of law rather than a fact finding by a trial court whose rulings would not be precedential in any case) would mean.
SilverElfin•3h ago
cultofmetatron•3h ago
oh yes, a few hundred people getting som eextra food constitutes an egregious waste of taxes that warrant our collective outrage
as oppossed to..
* a lavicious birthday/military parade
* a ballroom bigger than the white house being built while air traffic controllers arent' being paid
* billions of dollars being sent to subsidize argeninian beef
* billions sent to a theorcratic nationstate hell bent on committing genocide
trenchpilgrim•3h ago
How do you know those aren't bots?
jrflowers•5h ago
You know people get evicted if they don’t pay rent right? Like if you don’t have enough money to pay rent because you had to feed yourself your landlord can have armed police forcibly remove you from their property.
I don’t know if you’ve ever seen those people that inexplicably live outdoors, but it may surprise you to learn that not being able to pay rent is a common cause for not having a place to live. It is shocking but true
dragonwriter•4h ago
I can certainly imagine scenarios where failing to get poverty food aid cannot be adequately remedied by any amount of money later.
mothballed•3h ago
If you look at many other injunctions for irreparable harm, like a lot of the gun rights cases, they would only apply it to the actual groups that sued like "members of second amendment foundation" as it can be too difficult to generalize to the entire populace. I suspect this might apply for snap; a judge may find some certain families could undergo irreparable harm but not perhaps rule the entire class of people receiving it would yet.