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Optimism Associated with Exceptional Longevity

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1900712116
31•RickJWagner•2h ago

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Insanity•1h ago
It makes sense to me, as the article also points out, being more optimistic might indicate lower levels of stress. And (prolonged) stress has been known for a long time to be detrimental to health.
unionjack22•1h ago
If anyone wishes to use this study as a catalyst to shift one’s attitude, then I highly recommend dropping the dopaminergic doomloop apps like Reddit/Bluesky/X/tiktok/IG.

Your life will be better for it. Snapchat can stay…for reasons.

bix6•57m ago
+1, I’m off the apps and it’s been so liberating.
forgetfulness•8m ago
Rage-engagement, something I never needed, and I that knew I needed out of my life, I just didn't know how much of a positive impact it would have to get off it. Sorry Zuck and Spez, but I know you'll be fine without a hatebuck or two.
ajuc•48m ago
Social media like all addictions fulfill needs that you can't satisfy other ways in your current state. Mostly human contact and validation.

If you start getting out there and communicating with real people on intimate level - most addictions melt away by itself.

It makes more sense to focus on the root cause instead of fighting the symptoms.

HEmanZ•17m ago
I disagree. Looking inward at myself at outward at addicted friends and family it does not fill any need.

What it does is “hooks the attention” using outrage and a constant stream of dopamine hits.

“ If you start getting out there and communicating with real people on intimate level - most addictions melt away by itself.”

I highly suspect you are not an addiction specialist…

kernc•40m ago
What are the reasons for Snapchat? :.
iberator•10m ago
Ladies
anself•58m ago
Pessimists are going to read this and call BS
cubefox•57m ago
So exceptional longevity causes optimism? That would make sense at least.
snek_case•53m ago
It might also be something like: people who experience relatively little psychological distress are optimistic, and also live longer.

We don't like to talk about it, but there is a biological component to how happy or anxious someone is. Not to say that everyone is doomed to be a certain way because of their genetics, but I've known people who are basically never sad, and it's not because they've found some kind of secret of happiness. I have a friend who has the temperament of a golden retriever.

RobotToaster•56m ago
Great, another thing to worry about.
perrysmith•38m ago
Life is goooooood, man.
fusslo•34m ago
Everything I've learned from psychology (and by this I mean watching psychology lectures from Yale and Stanford on youtube and reading the associated textbooks) makes me confident that I will have a short and unhappy life.

Dr Bloom spoke about how your overall mood during college is a good predictor for how happy you'll be as a person throughout your life. He talked about the optimum time to get married is 26. He elucidated the idea of your prefrontal cortex solidifying around 25, making personality changes MUCH more difficult.

Dr Sopolsky spoke about biological markers that may affect human behavior - both inherited and environmentally influenced.

At 35 I am starting to suspect that I may be on the spectrum ( I kinda expected some adult to tell me this as a child, if it's true ).

The males on my fathers side (with the exception of my uncle) do not make it past 67.

My mothers side has inter-generational trauma that I know i've inherited avoidant behaviors that limit my social ability.

So great news.

jack_tripper•30m ago
>Dr Bloom spoke about how your overall mood during college is a good predictor for how happy you'll be as a person throughout your life.

Welp, I guess I'm dead then.

>around 25, making personality changes MUCH more difficult

Maybe it's just me but my personality keeps changing every year or so, based on the positive and negative experiences and challenges from living abroad alone, having to always adapt to new stuff to stay mentally, financially and socially afloat.

I assume it's different if you spend your whole life in the same place you grew up in with the same people doing the same things. Maybe the brain checks out from the repetition.

>avoidant behaviors that limit my social ability

Move aboard to another country where you don't speak the language.

HEmanZ•21m ago
If it’s true then this is a propensity and not a rule.

My mood in college was suicidal. My mood by my 30s was better than most people I’ve ever met (sans hiccup from a year of no sleep with a newborn).

Looking back my horrible mood in college was probably caused by isolation, no sleep, high pressure course load, and too much alcohol. And I’ve noticed my mood drops dramatically when I get it in my head that I need to be more successful, at any point in my life.

danaris•28m ago
> the idea of your prefrontal cortex solidifying around 25

...which is bunk; the studies that are cited as showing this actually showed changes in the prefrontal cortex up to the oldest people in their study, which was 25-year-olds.

Current research suggests that it continues changing throughout our lives.

fusslo•11m ago
is it? thats good to know - the lecture series I watched was recorded in 2008
80hd•25m ago
There's nothing wrong with being unhappy, IMO - you can still channel those emotions into something meaningful.

But if you do want to be happy, you can find stories, if you look hard and long enough, of "outliers". People who, against all odds, defied "statistics" and broke out of whatever expectations society and "facts" projected onto them.

I tried "everything" until age ~27 when I finally found one dial (very specific elimination diet) that made the rest of my body act mostly normally. Other changes were easier to make from that point onwards, altho there's a lot of damage to undo still. Diet is just one factor, for others it could be completely different.

My point is - I thought I would never be healthy. This stuff runs in my family too. But I just kept trying things. There's no other option.

You are a unique human being and soul who has something valuable to contribute to this world. Even if that's being unhappy.

Hope that doesn't sound condescending, it's something I tell myself too.

antegamisou•10m ago
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id•22m ago
It wouldn't surprise me if healthy, privileged people with access to good healthcare are more optimistic than those with serious illness, no coverage and three shitty jobs.

Hard to be optimistic when you have cancer and can't afford treatment.

antegamisou•17m ago
Yeah I also feel introducing some social class - income level would help things clear up.

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