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1•todsacerdoti•2m ago•0 comments

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LLM-generated text is not testimony

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2•anigbrowl•10m ago•0 comments

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1•gnabgib•15m ago•0 comments

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2•fleahunter•30m ago•0 comments

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2•doener•40m ago•0 comments

Quantum nonlocality may be inherent in the nature of identical particles

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2•hhs•49m ago•0 comments

Space invaders – but the aliens are GPUs

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2•telecomsteve•49m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Man who threw sandwich at US border agent not guilty of assault

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypvv8n1jvo
120•onemoresoop•2h ago

Comments

floren•1h ago
> The jury's verdict comes after Customs and Border Patrol agent Gregory Lairmore testified that the snack "exploded all over him" and he "could smell the onions and mustard" on his uniform. [...] "I could feel it through my ballistic vest," he said of the sandwich's impact, adding that an onion string hung from his police radio and mustard stained his shirt.

God, how horrifying. Maybe with time and intensive therapy he'll eventually be able to heal.

yndoendo•1h ago
They never took photo evidence of the scene and the only captured content was from a 3rd party showing the Subway sandwich wrapped up, lying on the street.

I would say Gregory Lairmore is a po' boy full of shit.

natebc•1h ago
> a po' boy full of shit

Now that's a sandwich-in-the-face worthy of getting worked up about!

spl757•1h ago
"The Perjury": 10lbs of shit on a 5lb bun tossed with onions and mustard.

edit: one too many words

pxc•1h ago
Wow. So they even lied about the details of how the sandwich hit them.
zippyman55•1h ago
He views like as a shit sandwich and the more bread he has, the less shit he needs to taste. This was embarrassing.
gamblor956•1h ago
He must have had very sensitive skin to feel a sandwich through a ballistic vest.
tdb7893•1h ago
People shouldn't be throwing sandwiches at people but it's wild in the US that the most minor stuff against the police and they try to charge you with a felony but police can commit pretty much any form of assault (even on camera) and often don't even lose their job unless there's a big outcry.
jahsome•1h ago
Even with an outcry, the blue wall often protects them only until it's politically untenable.
adrr•1h ago
Law enforcement officer committed perjury on the stand since the defense presented a picture of the sandwich after the throw and it was still wrapped up. It never exploded.
jrflowers•1h ago
Lying under oath about a sandwich should be treated as a substantial offense. At the very least it should carry a fine hefty enough to render him a po’ boy
tehwebguy•57m ago
Show me a cop that doesn’t belong on the Brady list and I’ll eat a ham and cheese bomb on italian bread
jojobas•1h ago
An attack on a cop is an attack on the state. You sure have a right to revolution but you better succeed, cause state has the right to imprison you.
malfist•1h ago
I hardly think throwing a sandwich at someone is an attempted revolution
jojobas•1h ago
It's still an infringement against the state, not just a random man, and strictly punishment is in order. You can't allow anything getting thrown at cops on duty without repercussions.
cogman10•50m ago
Not according to a Jury of peers. The entire reason we have trial by jury is to dull the power of the state when it acts like this ICE officer and prosecutor did.

This "attack" was about as close to non-violent protest as you can get. Taking someone to court was only done because the ICE kidnapper had his fee fees hurt.

mmooss•26m ago
It was in court because the White House wants to demonstrate extreme aggression. I wonder how the officer felt about testifying - did they have a choice? (They are still responsible for their actions, of course.)
mmooss•28m ago
> It's still an infringement against the state, not just a random man, and strictly punishment is in order.

Why is the state so special? The USA's foundational value is individual liberty, not state authority.

fzeroracer•25m ago
In a functional country, the police and law enforcement are there to serve the people, not that the people are to serve them. That means holding law enforcement up to a higher standard than your average person and understanding that throwing a sandwich at them does not constitute assault or bodily harm.
dragonwriter•16m ago
> It's still an infringement against the state

Infringement of what?

> You can't allow anything getting thrown at cops on duty without repercussions.

You absolutely can, and of the thing involved was neither intended to—nor raised reasonable fear of, nor did, nor had any meaningful likelihood to—cause injury to the officer, I can’t see any overwhelming reason you shouldn’t, either.

I suppose I could see a case for civil liability for reasonable and necessary cleaning costs directly attributable to the sandwich, but beyond that...

AngryData•1h ago
I mean you don't get 25% of the world's total prison population by having a fair and just law enforcement system.
p_ing•1h ago
Police in the US as they're trained are a cancer on society as a whole. Prosecutors are afraid of prosecuting them as they are -- normal citizens. They deserve nor have any special rights under the law (there are two classes of people, civilians and military -- they're not military).

When an officer attempts to murder a civilian, they should face attempted murder charges. When an officer kills a pet, he should face a destruction of property charge.

Unfortunately this rarely happens.

Anyone should be able to exercise their human rights and resists so-called officers of the law where possible up to and including deadly force.

mmooss•30m ago
> Police in the US as they're trained are a cancer on society as a whole.

I think you are way overstating it. It's hard to imagine society without police, and I've encountered many good, effective police.

> there are two classes of people, civilians and military -- they're not military

???!!!! Do you think people in the military have different or special rights?

p_ing•15m ago
> It's hard to imagine society without police, and I've encountered many good, effective police.

Agreed, and that's not what we have. We have an overly aggressive, fearful, and self-protective/self-interested police force. Not one for the 'good of the people'.

> Do you think people in the military have different or special rights?

Yes, there are two classes of people in the US -- civilians and military. You're one of two, not that individuals in the military can violate civilian law, but they're beholden to their own laws (UCMJ) separate from civilians. Along with limits on their rights that they would otherwise have under the US Constitution.

squigz•1h ago
Throwing sandwiches at people is a valid act of protest in my books.
ethin•1h ago
These people will literally claim that just bumping into them is "assault". Where do you think they're getting the "1000 percent increase" stats from? (For those who aren't aware, what the DHS is really trying to say is "well ,before all this started, there were just 10 assaults per year on ICE officers and now there's 100".)
techdmn•1h ago
I've read / watched a few different stories now, where what happens is the police / ICE assault a protestor, then charge the protestor with assaulting the officer and resisting arrest.

You don't bump them, you attack their fists and clubs with the softer parts of your body.

pxc•1h ago
This reads so much like The Onion, it's uncanny.
grebc•1h ago
I commented on the prior article posted that The Onion writers don’t even need to conjure a story anymore, just report the facts.
amarant•1h ago
It's a veritable smorgasbord of trauma!
dktalks•1h ago
I was in a grand jury recently and a cop/attorney came to the supreme court of our state with a terroristic threat from a homeless person in a park who made a gun sign and said pow pow, and they wanted us to indict them....

By this standard most of the sports player in the nation should be indicted.

Good news we unanimously rejected it

reaperducer•1h ago
Man who threw sandwich at US border agent not guilty of assault

…by twelve hangry men.

(Stolen from Fark)

TZubiri•1h ago
Battery?
mmooss•1h ago
They meant buttery.
api•1h ago
A salt and buttery.
mickle00•1h ago
It was all bologna
Der_Einzige•1h ago
You May Beat the Wrap, But You Can't Beat The Sub...
mattkrause•1h ago
You can beat the wrap but you can’t beat the rye.
lapetitejort•1h ago
A hero strikes a zero.
throw0101a•1h ago
While the old saying that a good DA/prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich[0][1][2][3] may still be true, conviction is another matter. Which is, in all of this, probably the coldest cut of all.

[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indict_a_ham_sandwich

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Wachtler

[2] https://history.nycourts.gov/biography/sol-wachtler/

[3] https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/a-grand-jury-would-indict-...

k1t•21m ago
The grand jury did not indict in this case.
dragonwriter•12m ago
> While the old saying that a good DA/prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich may still be true, conviction is another matter.

This was filed as a misdemeanor case, because federal felonies require a grand jury indictment, and the grand jury declined to indict when the prosecutor tried to bring felony charges.

To be fair, they only tried to charge the thrower, and not the sandwich, so maybe the old saying might have held up with the right defendant here.

sys32768•1h ago
The assault claim didn't cut the mustard, leaving a stain on the agency's reputation.
CGMthrowaway•1h ago
A nice affirmation of jury nullification - one of the last freedoms left in this country.
mmooss•1h ago
Was it nullification? Maybe it didn't meet the standard of guilt.

The jury determined that the launching of the 12-inch deli sandwich from what the government described as “point-blank range” was not an attempt to cause bodily injury, preventing a conviction.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/06/us/politics/trump-sandwic...

ghuffed•1h ago
Surely they could (will?) be charged with something though, right? I mean if I walk down the street now and launch a sandwich at a random stranger, it's some form of assault. "Attempt to cause bodily injury" is a bit much, but it's something.
cogman10•57m ago
Double Jeopardy [1] applies. If they had a better charge they should have brought it.

You can't be tried multiple times for the same incident.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy

mmooss•54m ago
In the US you can't be tried multiple times on the same charges for the same incident by the same government body.

You can be tried by both the federal and the state governments, separately, on the same charges (that is, on equivalent federal and state charges).

I think you can be tried for the same incident, by the same government body, on different charges.

cogman10•40m ago
> I think you can be tried for the same incident, by the same government body, on different charges.

Yeah, reading through the wiki on it, it appears you are correct. That usually does not happen just because it's costly.

Gigachad•21m ago
In all reality if you just threw a sandwich at a stranger you'd likely get away with it. Society only functions because people don't want to throw sandwiches for no reason.

Seemingly most things that are technically illegal are rarely enforced because it's just too much work and not severe enough to be worth it.

dannyobrien•1h ago
More info on jury nullification -- and how you can be prepared when asked to judge your peers: https://fija.org/

(For those outside the US: being called to serve on a jury is a surprisingly frequent event for Americans, and can be very powerful civil act, though a time-consuming and costly one).

mmooss•1h ago
Per the NY Times, the jury deliberated for 7 hours. That seems like quite a long time for a simple case. I wonder what the hold-up was. They add,

"The jury determined that the launching of the 12-inch deli sandwich ... was not an attempt to cause bodily injury, preventing a conviction."

It seems like that couldn't have taken seven hours by itself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/06/us/politics/trump-sandwic...

wat10000•1h ago
I’d guess there were some “law and order” types on the jury and it took a while to convince them to acquit.
analog31•1h ago
It could easily take 7 hours to determine, empirically and with good statistics, if a sandwich could cause bodily injury.
tclancy•1h ago
They apparently ate lunch in the middle. You’ll never guess what they had.
cogman10•1h ago
They needed to do ballistics tests in deliberation.
mmooss•53m ago
Can the jury do empirical experiments?
guywithahat•1h ago
In the strict legal sense, this is assault; assault is just "offensive touching". If I spit on someone in an offensive manor (such as after yelling at them), that's classified as assault, and this has been affirmed by many courts (one such ruling by the 9th circuit court https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-9th-circuit/1424739.htm...). I'm not saying I personally agree with the legal definition, that's just how they do it in the US. Throwing a sandwich at someone in a situation like this absolutely counts as assault, I don't think there's any debate about that.

What we have is a case of jury nullification, where a jury recognized the crime and decided not to convict. This is probably fine with the prosecution though, as the real punishment was holding him in jail, getting him fired, and wasting his life savings defending this case.

mmooss•51m ago
Interesting points.

> This is probably fine with the prosecution

It's an embarrassment, so not at all fine. I doubt anyone is deterred. I wonder if we'll see copycat 'assaults' - I'm surprised we haven't.

Scipio_Afri•31m ago
The guy got arrested, lost his job and had to hire a lawyer. Almost got charged with a felony assault, but the jury decided that he shouldn't be charged. Instead, later charged with a misdemeanor. I'd be super stressed about all of that, plus the trial and then having to wait 7 hours to find out I'm not guilty, but also incredibly happy after. However, all that and his name is forever associated with this incident, so despite no criminal history he might find future employment more challenging. He has probably been through quite a bit despite not being found guilty of a crime. I think that any person who is somehow inspired by doing what he did because he got away with it was always willing to do it anyway. Surely any reasonable person would realize how much he already had to go through which is enough of a deterrent. It was some degree of luck as well, even with similar or same circumstances it might up that another individual is charged and found guilty.

He's fairly lucky he doesn't have a criminal record, but it didn't come without consequences. I think the fact that the sandwich was still wrapped on the ground, hit the officer's shoulder, that the other police at the time were visibly amused during the incident, and clearly joking about it for several days after as well with the officer who had it happen to him, showed that the incident wasn't serious enough to ruin anyone's life over. A formal criminal conviction in the US would've made it hard for him to get employment for some time, if not the rest of his life.

dragonwriter•7m ago
Clearly, either the jury had some members that were not initially ready to make a decision without review of the evidence in the case, or at least the first poll of the jurors was split, probably either the latter or both.

That it was a simple question doesn’t mean that the jury was initially unanimous on the answer,

tptacek•1h ago
This is the good outcome; one note I had about this though is, per CNN:

    In one video taken from a police officer’s body-worn 
    camera, Dunn told the officer, “I was trying to draw 
    them away from where they were. I succeeded.”
Don't say things like this! He was acquitted of assault, but he admitted on camera to a violation of 18 USC 111. (How I know this is, a friend of mine who's a trustee for our suburb was just indicted for the same thing, not over a sandwich, but for slowing down an ICE employee's car).
mmooss•1h ago
Yeah, I was surprised he said that. And he worked at the time for the Department of Justice criminal division.

It almost sounded like a post hoc rationalization, to make an outburt sound clever and intentional. Likely a stressful situtation to put yourself in.

SpicyLemonZest•1h ago
Like all civil disobedience, it occupies an awkward middle ground. You don't necessarily want to make prosecutors' lives easier, but your protest is a lot more powerful if you make it clear to the world that you really did violate the law, because then anyone who supports you has to acknowledge that the law is unfair.
quantified•1h ago
If a random person throws a sandwich at you, or touches your shoulder for example to say "mind the gap", it is indeed assault under the law. Whether it rises to the importance of requiring legal sanction is, however, up to the jury.
mmooss•49m ago
> If a random person ... touches your shoulder for example to say "mind the gap", it is indeed assault under the law.

You mean, if they say that with the intent of helping you? I doubt that's assault.

xboxnolifes•42m ago
They're talking about impeding, not about the assault. Also, tapping someone's shoulder to help them is not assault under the law.
mmooss•1h ago
For comparison, would throwing a sandwich at a vendor get you fired from your job?

Not for me, but it would be a blow to my reputation and might cost a relationship with the vendor (depending on the dollar value to the vendor). And I'd be very embarrassed.

add-sub-mul-div•1h ago
I'm embarrassed that I'm not doing as much as this man is to fight fascism. But sure, make this about sandwiches if the other subtext is too uncomfortable to face.
ghuffed•1h ago
Having a border is not fascism. Goodness me.
comrade1234•1h ago
Who's the vendor? AWS? Azure or whatever it's called now? Google cloud? You have to be more specific.
mmooss•1h ago
I mean a vendor's representative that you have a personal relationship with.
tclancy•1h ago
If you’re here to kink shame, I think you should leave.
stephen_g•1m ago
Why do you ask though? That just seems a strange and irrelevant comment in context of the post...

Or was it meant to be a reply to someone else's comment and would make more sense in context?

gdulli•1h ago
The real crime is that the sandwich was probably like $16.
atmavatar•1h ago
Where has all the prosciutto gone

And where's the kosher salt?

Where's the fine-chopped rosemary leaves

to be a flavor catapult?

---

Isn't there some olive oil and sliced provolone cheese?

Slice up a large tomato

And a bell pepper that's been peeled

---

I need a hero, I'm holding out for a hero to snack on at night

It's gotta be long, and it's gotta be fast, and it's gotta be freshly on-site

tclancy•1h ago
Your 80s homage makes me think of Opus assaulting mimes with an olive loaf.
foxglacier•1h ago
It seems like a double standard. If you approached a random member of the public that you didn't like the look of, shouted at them that you don't want them in your city and violently threw a soft object at them, you could easily be convicted of assault and receive some minor punishment. I think most people would accept that you should be. Should people have greater rights to assault policemen than other types of people? Or should assault be legal if the victim's workmates find it funny?
kevinh•1h ago
Do you really think many people are being charged and found guilty of felony assault for throwing a sandwich at a random person? He was only charged because the guy was part of a cop-like class.
tclancy•1h ago
Yes. It’s called “being held to a higher standard”. In the past, we kinda thought we were sending out best and brightest to enforce our laws. The good news is a much larger swath of the country knows better now.
alphabettsy•1h ago
Fair question. The jury in this case decided it wasn’t assault.

My hypothesis is that people generally feel that police face little to no accountability and so there is a more serious double standard to contend with.

mmooss•34m ago
It's interesting theoretically: There's a factor of relative power at least in morality and common judgment, if not the law:

If a 90 year old person with a cane threw a sandwich at a 6'3" 250 pound professional athelete, everyone would check if the 90 year old was ok. Vice versa, and there would be a lot of anger and an arrest.

The state's law enforcement, with weapons, training, ballistic vests and helmets, etc. is the ultimate power. You can't do bodily injury to them, but minor contact and sandwiches are usually not taken seriously.

People ask the same question about situations where there is discrimination - is it a double-standard? They are forgetting about relative power: If someone is in a group that is threatened - e.g., an Auburn fan in a large crowd of rowdy, drunk Alabama fans (Auburn and Alabama are arch-rivals) - then an Alabama fan saying something threatening is a real threat, a real danger. If the Auburn fan says something threatening to the 100 Alabama fans around them, it doesn't represent anything; it's almost funny.

The equation is,

  Threat x Power = Danger
mmmBacon•1h ago
Maybe the jury needed 7 hours to determine if the bread was stale enough to cause bodily harm. Perhaps the crime here is the waste of a perfectly good sandwich.
lingrush4•1h ago
The people of DC have spoken. There's nothing wrong with throwing sandwiches at strangers in their city.