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Ask HN: What's the Deal with XMPP

1•ekjhgkejhgk•2h ago
I just recently discovered XMPP, and why isn't it more widely used?

Last time I went exploring into free messaging alternatives I looked into Matrix. I looked into Matrix again, and it's still terrribly slow. XMPP on the other hand is snappy. Despite this, XMPP is still more widely used than Matrix (not to mention whatsapp/signal/telegram). Why is this? Is there some downside I'm missing?

Comments

vga42•1h ago
It's 'extensible.' That's what they say. 'Extensible.' You know what that means? It means they didn't finish it! It's like buying a car, and they say, 'Oh, the engine? That's... extensible. You figure it out!'
ekjhgkejhgk•15m ago
That's such an uncharitable take... Many of these features that you would say make it unfinished didn't exist when XMPP first came out.

Being extensible has its downsides for sure, but calling it unfinished because it can be extended...

pndy•1h ago
We had XMPP in facebook's messenger and google talk up until both companies decided that they embraced this open protocol enough and removed support /s

Pretty sure someone recently commented on XMPP and why it failed - mostly because of variety of servers and clients which differ among each other too much.

In Poland the second most popular instant messenger network during the "golden period" beside Gadu Gadu was Tlen.pl. It used a modified XMPP but it was never fully compatible with it - it was impossible to reach contacts from tlen.pl domain. Then facebook arrived and people moved from "domestic" networks to global ones.

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