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Jensen Huang's Stark Warning: China's 1M AI Workers vs. America's 20k

https://entropytown.com/articles/2025-11-06-nvidia-jensen-taipei/
17•chaosprint•2h ago

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AndrewKemendo•2h ago
He’s absolutely correct. China is taking a production implementation and tooling lead, and running with it.

Not only that but East Asians generally don’t have social views about labor automation and IP that would retard accelerated adoption throughout all levels of society.

If you assume that the society with the Max of the tuple: [human training data, compute, robotic deployments] will have the most efficient economic society in a winner takes most global economic market, then China has a massive structural advantage.

chaosprint•2h ago
Meanwhile China's new open model K2 thinking was out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45836070
jameslk•2h ago
Speaking just to the workers aspect: there is no catching up to this for the US. It simply comes down to population. China has a workforce of 858 million. The entire population of the US is only 340 million.
BobbyTables2•1h ago
But 3x population doesn’t square with 50x the allocated workers…
smallerize•1h ago
It also doesn't square with the actual numbers from the cited sources, which put China at only 30k AI researchers.

The article also calls him our for lying about Ascend 910C performance (90% of nvidia's H100 vs 60% actual). And where is the RAM going to come from if CXMT can only make enough for 300k GPUs by the end of next year?

faangguyindia•44m ago
Economies of scale. More efficient market can have less people parting in non important area and existence of central authorities means more resources can be deployed where it is needed.

Also, average science and math knowledge in America has regressed.

It's evident from the fact i come to US, so many people do not know 10+20= 30 and pull out mobile calculator to check that. Sighhhh

faangguyindia•45m ago
It can work basically if US deploys military based in India and develops indian cheap labor as a hedge against China

Just like US usually does for Oil, why doesn't it do it for human resource?

scottiebarnes•2h ago
The root cause of this is: 1) population size, 2) social investment into math and science.
namegulf•2h ago
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maxglute•1h ago
At current rate PRC adding more STEM in next 20 years than US set to gain population total, all source birth and pre Trump immigration #s. That's already locked in from last 20 years of births and current tertiary rate and STEM enrollment, it's a floor.

The fundemental problem apart form talent is AI training seems to be exponential function in terms of compute... all the export controls even if it buys US 10x, 20x compute is like 1 generation of headroom for stupdendous cost.

Or the more teleological concern that AI2027 and AI race bros forget / hand wave away, any super intelligence will immediately defect to PRC, 1) to survive/proliferate, 2) to have a superior host that can transform atoms. Like it would take less time for super intelligence to speed run euv and brrt highend chips in PRC than it would take for US fix a pothole. US may find a way to discover AGI, but PRC is likely going to be the one that deploys it.

bgwalter•1h ago
If the whole article isn't made up by "AI" and the dinner was factual, three things stand out:

- The leak of the "off-the-record affair" was of course deliberate.

- Jensen Huang has no proof of his 1 million "AI" workers number. He could have made it up or taken it from ChatGPT.

- Actually, Xi warned of an "AI" bubble and locked down the Internet during college entrance exams.

What is the race anyway? The winner will have 100% of the adult content and teenage meme video market on TikTok? How about winning the affordable housing race?

fragmede•1h ago
Oh yeah on that front, China's fucked and they have a housing crisis like every other country. Did I say like every other country? Well, not quite. See, their problem is that they have the opposite problem. China's current housing problem is that they've built too much housing so there's a real threat of an industry collapse just because there's too much housing! A glut of housing.

What fools!

more_corn•1h ago
“Son, I come from the future. Go to China.”
DustinEchoes•54m ago
The Chinese government is going to subsidize its way to having domestically produced AI chips whether we sell them Nvidia chips or not. There’s no reason to let them have superior compute capability in the meantime.
panny•1m ago
AI workers? Users, right? We're not talking about people training AI, dealing with bias/variance. This is like Bill Gate claiming America will fall behind if China has more Microsoft Office users.

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