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American Heart Association says melatonin may be linked to serious heart risks

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251104012959.htm
26•pogue•2h ago

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pogue•2h ago
I tried to make the title a little less hyperbolic than the article starts out, as it's not a published study and it's basically a huge meta analysis that has no other information on age range, dosage, other health problems, etc. But the implications are worth considering.
cultofmetatron•2h ago
insomnia is also highly correlated with heart attack risk so there's that
HL33tibCe7•2h ago
Did you read the article?
mindcrime•1h ago
FWIW, the HN Guidelines[1] expressly ask that we not do that.

Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

HL33tibCe7•41m ago
I’m aware. The rule is stupid and I am intentionally not complying with it.
michaelcampbell•52m ago
This whole thing is akin to the "I'm just asking questions" crowd.
bilsbie•48m ago
I’d guess it’s just correlated with poor sleepers.
crdrost•46m ago
PSA that melatonin use was way out of control before this study was even published.

Sleep aid melatonin is shipped in pills containing ridiculous amounts of the stuff—I’ve seen 10, 12, and 20mg myself, Amazon has a 40mg fast dissolve and 60mg gummies.

This spikes your blood amount with 100x-1000x of your natural cycle of melatonin. Why? Because melatonin is not, repeat not, the signaling molecule that makes you sleepy. It responds to light levels and triggers the cascade of other molecules that make you sleepy, several hours after it peaks. So that's why the 100x overdose—you are trying to kick those secondary mechanisms into overdrive, “hey everyone it is black as the abyss of hell I guess we gotta sleep!!”, because Americans taking melatonin want to pop one just before bed and have it knock them out.

And it does that for like 2 or 3 days before your body starts down-regulating all of its sensitivities to those melatonin byproducts. Nerve cells like to be tickled, not zapped, when you shock them like this they react angrily.

You want to use melatonin to reinforce circadian rhythm and fight jet lag, you do it with amounts in the ~100 micrograms range, slow release if you can find it, and you take that at sunset and let it reinforce your normal cycle. If you're looking for an acute sleep aid, take a walk, get fresh air, drink water, and if those don't help pop a Benadryl/Unisom (it's the same drug either way). If you have doctor’s orders of course follow those, but if you're just trying to self-medicate that’s how you do it.

Absolutely unsurprising that punching your sleep apparatus in the gut once every day for five years increases some sort of stress on your heart.

PaulKeeble•36m ago
There was a collection of studies about a decade ago that seemed to determine the optimal use of Melatonin was about 350 micrograms taken about 1 hour before bed. The ideal was also slow release which was the best you could do to match the bodies process currently. The doses you can buy are far too high even the 1.5mg ones.
canjobear•26m ago
In grad school I got to attend a talk by one of the researchers who was involved in the discovery of melatonin as a sleep aid for humans. He said that his team had hoped for it to become a prescription medicine dosed at 500 mcg, because anything higher gave paradoxical effects and actually made sleep worse. But it ended up being classified as a supplement in the US rather than a drug, so they had no way to control the dosage on the market.

The other useful thing I learned is that melatonin isn't primarily involved in falling asleep, its main function as a hormone is in staying asleep. I've started taking it sporadically if I wake up in the middle of the night, to make sure I get back to a deep sleep and stay there, and it seems to be super effective for this.

nerdsniper•24m ago
https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10/melatonin-much-more-th...
eurleif•6m ago
>Benadryl/Unisom (it's the same drug either way)

Are you sure about this? Everything I can find says Benadryl is diphenhydramine, and Unisom is doxylamine. (Both linked to increased dementia risk, for what it's worth.)

almosthere•16m ago
probably written by a statin exec. There is no reason to trust anything anymore.
Smileyferret•14m ago
This is an abstract that hasn’t been peer-reviewed… based on prescription data for an over-the-counter medication. This will be horribly inaccurate because it will miss all the folks who just buy the medication on their own and never have it documented.

These TriNetX studies are usually garbage because they’re entirely dependent on how accurate/up-to-date the medical record is.

bonsai_spool•2m ago
Yes, this should have been a pure dose-response study among people with any history of filled melatonin scripts.

The comparison between the US and UK probably leads to two issues - US users use way too much melatonin and swamp heart disease signal, while UK patients prescribed melatonin probably have significant sleep derangement (consider how much effort it takes to get prescribed something for sleep - you need to schedule an appointment, convince your doctor, go to the pharmacy, etc)

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