Yet another admission from Tim Cook that the only “value” he recognises is monetary. Despite all his wealth and power, he’s still too cowardly to take a stand even to protect the groups he’s a part of.
bell-cot•1h ago
Um, yes? Apple is a for-profit computer corporation. It signals various "values" when the RoI on doing so looks good, and doesn't when it doesn't.
Whatever their marketing might say about "we make sure that Santa only gets presents for nice little girls and boys", that is how pretty much every giant corporation on earth works.
latexr•41m ago
> Apple is a for-profit computer corporation.
Yes yes, “tHe CeO hAs A fIduCiARy ReSpOnSiBiLiTy To ShArEHoLdErS”. We’ve all heard that bootlicker’s credo which aims to excuse any asshole from their own humanity.
> It signals various "values" when the RoI on doing so looks good
Funny you mention that. Tim Cook famously shouted “screw the bloody ROI” at one point. Using the ROI as an excuse is not a good argument.
> Whatever their marketing might say (…), that is how pretty much every giant corporation on earth works.
That is not an excuse. Just because “everybody does it”, it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be criticised when they do it. That criticism and actions against it do bear fruit on many occasions. The attitude of shrugging one’s shoulders is what lets the world sink further into shit.
al_borland•1h ago
What would you like him to do? Pull all Apple products out of China completely?
latexr•36m ago
I would like him to not fold every time on every matter. I would like him to prove he believes in something. I would like him to stop using Martin Luther King’s words and pretend he lives by them.
I’m not disappointed in Tim Cook for this one specific thing, I’m disappointed for the repeated pattern of behaviour.
al_borland•28m ago
What does not folding look like in this case.
Imagine you are the CEO of Apple. The Chinese government tells you gay dating apps are no longer allowed in the App Store. How do you handle this situation?
latexr•2m ago
> Imagine you are the CEO of Apple.
Alright. Since when have I been CEO? Was I nominated today? Then I can definitely stall for a good while as I’m getting acquainted with everyone and the inner workings of the company, and come up with a plan.
Was I nominated a decade ago? Then Apple looks very different from today and I wouldn’t be in this situation because I wouldn’t have my supply chain almost entirely dependent on an authoritarian regime.
Again, the problem with Tim Cook is the pattern. Don’t narrow your mind to one specific case and shrug your shoulders as if there isn’t a choice. Look at the big picture. This isn’t one isolated case, this is only one instance which came about from decades of decisions.
latexr•1h ago
bell-cot•1h ago
Whatever their marketing might say about "we make sure that Santa only gets presents for nice little girls and boys", that is how pretty much every giant corporation on earth works.
latexr•41m ago
Yes yes, “tHe CeO hAs A fIduCiARy ReSpOnSiBiLiTy To ShArEHoLdErS”. We’ve all heard that bootlicker’s credo which aims to excuse any asshole from their own humanity.
> It signals various "values" when the RoI on doing so looks good
Funny you mention that. Tim Cook famously shouted “screw the bloody ROI” at one point. Using the ROI as an excuse is not a good argument.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2014/03/07/why-tim...
> Whatever their marketing might say (…), that is how pretty much every giant corporation on earth works.
That is not an excuse. Just because “everybody does it”, it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be criticised when they do it. That criticism and actions against it do bear fruit on many occasions. The attitude of shrugging one’s shoulders is what lets the world sink further into shit.
al_borland•1h ago
latexr•36m ago
I’m not disappointed in Tim Cook for this one specific thing, I’m disappointed for the repeated pattern of behaviour.
al_borland•28m ago
Imagine you are the CEO of Apple. The Chinese government tells you gay dating apps are no longer allowed in the App Store. How do you handle this situation?
latexr•2m ago
Alright. Since when have I been CEO? Was I nominated today? Then I can definitely stall for a good while as I’m getting acquainted with everyone and the inner workings of the company, and come up with a plan.
Was I nominated a decade ago? Then Apple looks very different from today and I wouldn’t be in this situation because I wouldn’t have my supply chain almost entirely dependent on an authoritarian regime.
Again, the problem with Tim Cook is the pattern. Don’t narrow your mind to one specific case and shrug your shoulders as if there isn’t a choice. Look at the big picture. This isn’t one isolated case, this is only one instance which came about from decades of decisions.