Yeah. It used to be the go-to for starting simple projects. We have quite a bit of other options in this space now, though - GH Pages, Cloudflare workers, Vercel, Netlify, etc etc...

> I lament what could have been with heroku. I did some back of the envelope calculations for what it would have cost for my own startup to run on it and it came out to significantly more than what it costs us on aws INCLUDING our dedicated devops guy.

That's...nuts. o_O

Are you doing something special, do you guys already have a lot of traffic?

This is exactly why we built https://canine.sh, to try to rebuild Heroku in the open source

We begged heroku for years to lower their prices but they just kept increasing it.

I even showed a rep a side by side comparison of heroku vs raw AWS costs and it was 8x. Absolutely couldn’t justify

As the founder of a local cloud very similar to Heroku, I understand Heroku's limitations. It's a balance between control and convenience. The simpler everything is, the better it's suited for small projects, but the less control you have for complex projects. Unless you're just running a hobby project, you'll be using Kubernetes and similar services with full control and the complexity that comes with it. Heroku uses AWS, which means they can't make computations cheaper, otherwise the economics don't add up.

In my experience, we (I won't advertise) have prices several times lower, and we try very hard to accommodate more serious projects, but 99% of projects are small and consume less than 200 MB of RAM. This is simply the nature of this market and product.

It's hard to compare, surely as heroku is basically aws + virtual 24/7 generic dev ops guy. Aws will always be cheaper because heroku itself runs on it. Afaik, the USP of heroku is deployment ease for small/medium projects. If you need complex setups, you need to roll your own in aws.

$1 per function call is possible. /s

I upvoted it before reading, thinking it was Haiku (OS) not Heroku (overpriced SaaS thing). Maybe others did the same?

TIL: Heroku is still online. A shadow of its former self but still there.

Probably. But I got over it 25 years ago. I think of it as “dotnet” in my head which seems better.

No, you are not alone.for non-tech population, it may make sense that .NET 5 is continuation of .NET 4. But the tech crowd knows .net 5 is to .net 4 is what angular 2 is to angular 1.

With .net 4 still in active use, the naming makes it harder

No, that's Microsoft's other work in the XBox line. Try saying "Xbox Series X" and "Xbox Series S" and "XBox One S" to ten normal people and asking them to find the correct matching product in a store.

Some fun ones:

- Colgate Kitchen Entrees

- Ayds Diet Candy

- Gerber in Africa (in many regions, it is customary for labels to show what's inside. Having a baby on the bottle is just weird)

- Chevrolet Nova (no va means "don't go")

- Clairol Mist Stick (in Germany. In German, Mist means manure)

- Pee Cola (Ghana)

- Puffs Tissues (Germany) (in German slang, Puff means brothel)

- Nokia Lumia (prostitute in Spanish slang)

- ISIS Chocolates (Belgium)

- Hitachi's Woopie Washing Machine (cute to a Japanese ear, but not to that of an English speaker)

I came here to see if AppHarbor was still running and was pleased to see this post :D

Paketo buildpacks have also been updated with .NET 10 support day one. https://blog.paketo.io/posts/paketo-dotnet-10-support/