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Show HN: I made an open-source Rust program for memory-efficient genomics

https://github.com/logannye/rosalind
1•logannyeMD•11s ago•0 comments

AI's true impact will become apparent in the coming year

https://www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2025/11/10/ais-true-impact-will-become-apparent-in-the-...
1•andsoitis•4m ago•0 comments

The Witchcraft Compiler Collection

https://github.com/endrazine/wcc
1•colonCapitalDee•4m ago•0 comments

The art of (VM) firmware logging

https://www.kraxel.org/blog/2025/10/firmware-logging/
1•todsacerdoti•5m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Chime – Full-screen meeting alerts for time blindess (macOS)

https://www.usechime.app/
1•tsormed•6m ago•0 comments

Why Don't People Return Shopping Carts? A (Somewhat) Scientific Investigation

https://behavioralscientist.org/why-dont-people-return-their-shopping-carts-a-somewhat-scientific...
1•derbOac•9m ago•0 comments

Sorry to My PR Reviewers

https://ajkueterman.com/posts/sorry-pr-reviewers/
1•robotsquidward•11m ago•1 comments

Toronto's snow-clearing contracts don't cover removal

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/city-budget-no-room-for-snow-removal-9.6966799
1•geox•18m ago•0 comments

Every AI app startup is likely to be crushed by the foundational model providers

https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1987787127204249824
2•ilmoi•21m ago•0 comments

Aurora Australis puts on dazzling display

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-13/aurora-australis-in-photos-november-2025/106003620
1•langfo•21m ago•0 comments

Canadian Lawmaker Testifies Chinese Students Were Bused in to Elect Him

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/canada/canada-election-china-han-dong.html
2•DustinEchoes•26m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Help me understand Signal communication blurb

1•ajr0•26m ago•0 comments

Our health care system has become utterly insane

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/aca-health-care-insurance-us-jetelina
1•toomuchtodo•27m ago•0 comments

Embulk into the Maintenance Mode

https://www.embulk.org/articles/2025/11/10/embulk-into-the-maintenance-mode.html
1•yohamta•28m ago•0 comments

HelloTriangle: An easy-to-use platform for advanced 3D modeling

https://www.hellotriangle.io
1•sntran•28m ago•1 comments

Yyyyyyy.info

https://www.yyyyyyy.info
1•sans_souse•30m ago•0 comments

WhatsApp lets you message people on other apps

https://www.androidpolice.com/whatsapp-support-for-third-party-apps/
1•raybb•31m ago•0 comments

[Android App Store] A Road Behind, a Road Ahead

https://blog.accrescent.app/posts/road-behind-road-ahead/
1•securitybrahh•33m ago•0 comments

Wall Street Speeds Up India Expansion After Trump's Visa Curbs

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-11/trump-visa-crackdown-pushes-more-high-skilled-...
4•alephnerd•37m ago•0 comments

Continuous Autoregressive Language Models

https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.27688
1•badmonster•37m ago•0 comments

My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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90•DustinEchoes•39m ago•23 comments

PGM Format Specification

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1•grep_it•41m ago•0 comments

Show HN: LimiX-2M – The super-light foundation model redefining tabular learning

1•cedge•48m ago•0 comments

ParaRNN [from Apple Research]

https://github.com/apple/ml-pararnn
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Tell HN: PSA/reminder AI Apps have access to your clipboard

1•ddxv•50m ago•1 comments

Big Tech and the AI investment boom in underwater cables

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/08/big-tech-ai-underwater-cables.html
1•gmays•53m ago•0 comments

Smarter Adaptive Graph Sampling for More Accurate Graph Learning

https://kumo.ai/research/adaptive-graph-sampling/
2•gk1•54m ago•0 comments

Research team finds zero-click RCE vulnerability in Minecraft: Bedrock Edition

https://twitter.com/osec_io/status/1988681993568362946
1•mudkipdev•55m ago•0 comments

Temporal Dithering of NeoPixels on an ATtiny412

http://sarah.alroe.dk/2025/NeoInf/
1•radeeyate•59m ago•0 comments

The Consistency Functional K: Variational Unification of QM, Thermodynamics, GR

https://zenodo.org/records/17411038
1•westurner•1h ago•2 comments
Open in hackernews

£220 'for a cut-up sock' — Apples's new iPhone Pocket ridiculed online

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn97ndgpnq7o
57•Lyngbakr•1h ago

Comments

lyxsus•1h ago
Why not? It may be stupid, but I'm buying it if material feels right to my skin.
WheatMillington•1h ago
I predict it will sell very well.
broodbucket•1h ago
Maybe this is a new low for the more regular consumer facing stuff, but this is hardly new for Apple. The $1000 wheels come to mind.
kotaKat•1h ago
Or the fugly Beats Pill... things.

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/18/beats-pill-vear-returns...

JimDabell•1h ago
Apple were also widely ridiculed for the iPad (just a big iPhone), AirPods (everybody who wears them looks goofy), and Apple Watch (ugly square).
ghaff•30m ago
Apple Watch also that no one not a boomer wears watches any longer.
LeoPanthera•12m ago
You're kidding, right? It's ubiquitous. I see it everywhere. It's almost unusual to see someone wearing a watch that isn't one.
hyperhello•1h ago
Let's consider strategy. There are two variables: P, the price, and Q, the quantity. Of course by reducing P you increase Q, and vice versa, so besides being dependent on each other, they have an inverse relationship. At some pair, PQ is maximized.

Apple knows this. So of course they did not set the price P to maximize Q. They set the price P to maximize PQ.

The question should be why P maximizes PQ. I submit that it is because of dopey articles that create a luxury effect around the product. I believe that if necessary, Apple would (and may even already) write and publish these articles themselves.

nyx•1h ago
I think that inflating the perceived value of the good beyond rationality is one of the main objectives of marketing.
ideasphere•1h ago
The iPod Sock was 2004. Fashion has always loved the 20 Year Cycle!
jmpeax•1h ago
That was released as a joke. Twenty years later and no longer released as a joke, Apple is showing they are still in touch with the sensibilities of the modern Apple customer.
boxedemp•1h ago
It's difficult not to be somewhat impressed by Apples ability to build a luxury brand with such loyal customers.

My technical brain say "who would want that" but my business brain says "maybe I should buy more AAPL"

digitcatphd•1h ago
They will seed in a few dozen influencers and there will be lines out the door
Waterluvian•1h ago
People make irrational purchases all the time and I don't really see a problem with that. What makes me wince is when people are trying to rationalize their irrational purchases, especially with strangers. Or when strangers seek to make them feel silly or bad about it.
programjames•1h ago
I see a problem with it. It

(1) makes companies market (lie) more aggressively, because it ends up working out.

(2) makes prices irrational, because if a bunch of stupid people will buy your shit product, why would you care about the 1% who actually do their research?

Waterluvian•1h ago
(1) But that's how commerce works. Does a product sell? Okay sell it more.

(2) People who "do their research" aren't entitled to anything. Maybe they just won't buy it? Then it's not for them. I don't understand what "makes prices irrational" would even mean in this context. The right price is whatever maximizes P * Q.

vlovich123•1h ago
My hypothesis is that irrationality is economically inefficient at a macro scale; dollars flowing through manufactured irrational purchases get centralized into Apple’s coffers to be directed via their inefficient centralized decision making.

This hypothesis of course may be false - maybe Apple is better suited to take those irrational dollars and deploy them more rationally.

abtinf•1h ago
How does news website clickbait garbage get to the top of HN? Vote ring?
tom_•1h ago
Because clickbait gets clicks! That's what makes it clickbait, rather than just being some nonsense nobody clicks on.

Flag it if you hate it.

keyle•1h ago
Because this 220 pounds for a cut-up sock article resonates with the HN community?
bc569a80a344f9c•1h ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45885813

Because this place loves outrage just as much as any other community. And it’s no fun to make fun of others in a thread that gets flagged and hidden.

Zealotux•1h ago
That kind of Apple product is always ridiculed online by people who obviously never stepped into an Apple Store.
gtrealejandro•1h ago
The article mentions MKBHD calling it a "litmus test," but it's more than that: it's a "brand anchor."

This product's primary purpose is to generate this exact wave of online ridicule and media coverage (like this BBC article).

It makes Apple's other "expensive" accessories (e.g., a $129 FineWoven case) seem perfectly reasonable by comparison.

It generates millions in free PR, all centered on the theme of "Apple as an exclusive, luxury brand."

They aren't selling a sock for $230. They are selling the conversation around it. As others have predicted, it will sell out.

jordanb•1h ago
MKBHD's point is that this would have worked the way you describe it a decade ago, but is Apple's brand and fans the same as they were back then? At some point doing something like this just makes you look greedy and out of touch.

If Microsoft had tried to sell a "limited edition" zoom sock for $220 it would have produced a lot of mockery and no sales.

dmix•51m ago
> but is Apple's brand and fans the same as they were back then

Yes Apple is still an up-market brand. You can be a luxury company that sells products that start priced in the middle while offering high end stuff that also sells very well... or better, iPhone 15 Pro Max was their top selling individual item last year, not the standard iPhone 15.

Having a subset of the influencer/trendmakers who buy only the high end stuff helps push up the brands popularity. Even if it's only more novelty stuff like this.

This 'sock' is a very loud fashion item that will show up in celebrity photos and youtube videos.

gtrealejandro•43m ago
If Microsoft had tried to sell a "limited edition" zoom sock for $220...

That's the entire point, though. Microsoft can't do this.

This move only works precisely because Apple is not just a tech company anymore, but (as dmix also points out) a luxury/fashion brand.

The fact that Microsoft would fail is the proof. This isn't a "tech accessory" play; it's a "luxury brand" play, where the "ridicule" from outsiders (i.e., tech-focused people) is part of the marketing that signals exclusivity to the target audience (fashion-focused people).

labrador•1h ago
People are such simple creatures when you get right down to it. I'm excited because theyre in color. Apple needs to bring back color for the 10th time.
gdulli•30m ago
You're both right. You're describing it from Apple's point of view, he's seeing it as a normal person who isn't one of the marks.
foofoo12•27m ago
Spot on! It's exactly how you sell a $200 t-shirt. You put it next to a $900 t-shirt.
zeroq•18m ago
Rory made an excellent remark about how Rolls-Royce stopped showing their cars at car shows and instead shifted towards private jets and yachts events.

As he put it - when you're shopping for a $100M yacht, a $2 car is almost an impulse buy.

jacquesm•24m ago
True, but that doesn't make it any more ridiculous. It is exactly this 'exclusivity' vibe that has always turned me off from Apple as a company. It's just some gear, and instead they want you to believe it is a whole different world when you're using their devices. People even use it as a filter to determine each others' social worth.
arjie•1h ago
When the iPad came out in 2010, online commenters also ridiculed it. The jokes were so repetitive that people complained about them[0]

/r/technology is sadly not available from that day but the Internet was full of the same few jokes:

    iPad?! More like maxipad amirite?

    iPad? So they glued 4 iPod Touches together?

    Lol, Apple making the same thing others already made but worse?!
Sadly, /r/technology on the day of the Airpods release is also missing. But I was able to find some threads on it soon after[1]

The thing of greatest value to most "netizens" (haha) is ridicule. They love dunking on stuff. In fact, even today if you go to reddit's front page you will almost certainly see a post from /r/clevercomebacks or /r/murderedbywords or so on and so forth.

I don't blame them. When I was young, I too found this enjoyable for reasons that seem so alien to me today I cannot even comprehend why I did it. I, a Linux using child, called the IE and Windows users "Microserfs" in moments of great wit. Perhaps pg was right in that dunking is adaptive for those primarily seeking engagement[2]

That's not to say that anyone is wrong or right about whether some product is good. I thought the iPhone sock was some kind of joke release, but I've definitely passed the point where I know what appeals to the kids (six-seven skibidi). It's just that a gauge that always reads 1.0 on a scale from 0.0 to 1.0 is not a gauge that you can use diagnostically.

0: https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/auwq1/im_already_tire...

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/51r158/no_apple...

2: https://x.com/paulg/status/1659156372427087874?s=20

brailsafe•1h ago
BBC trying to make a couple extra bucks with this ad after that oopsy with Trump. Coverage is coverage, veiled by mockery or not.

To people with bad taste who buy stupid garbage for thousands, such as any of the hideous big shoes of the last decade adorned with a fancy label, this is already on order.

Can't wait to hear the ATP hosts spend 45 min "not" glazing this thing like they do with every iPhone case

Ultimately, it's a fashion thing, it'll sell, I can't blame them for putting it out there, but I'd definitely wonder about any friends buying it

IlikeKitties•1h ago
Fact: Most Hotels provide dedicated chairs for buyers of this product.
onewheeltom•1h ago
I remember when Apple was mocked over iPad.
bikeshaving•1h ago
I don’t think people here understand the pricing for this market category. This is not a phone case or a container, it is a handbag/shoulder bag, which can go for $100-500+ (do not underestimate the long tail for this market). The prominent display of Issey Miyake branding is indicative that this is a foray into fashion. Whether it looks good, or whether the Apple Pocket will be fashionable, is an open question, but it would be stupid and brand damaging for Apple to price this item lower.
weddpros•21m ago
$1465: That's what a nylon+paper bag from Issey Miyake costs. Then the price of this cut-up sock makes sense: it's not an iPhone accessory, it's a luxury fashion item.

https://www.ssense.com/en-th/women/product/issey-miyake/whit...

NetOpWibby•18m ago
I used to love browsing SSENSE, trying to figure out fashion. I still don’t get it.
foofoo12•20m ago
People understand exactly, hence the fuss. Someone finally yelled loud enough that the emperor has no clothes. People are shocked.

It isn't a handbag. It isn't a shoulder bag. It doesn't look good. I won't be fashionable. It isn't a open question. It's a sock.

jampa•1h ago
Apple seems to be running out of steam. Xiaomi, "the Apple clone," is now releasing cars and XR devices. Meanwhile, it has been a while since Apple released a new product line. The last one was the Apple Vision Pro. With Apple Intelligence, they have shown that they can't "think different" anymore.

Sure, Apple will remain a trillion-dollar company for a long time, partly because its competition keeps shooting itself in the foot. Windows and Android are hostile towards power users and bloat the system with pre-installed apps, and they are both stepping on the gas.

But the real question is: how long can brand loyalty alone sustain the hype of new Apple products? And when will Apple stop being considered a "growth" company?

dmix•59m ago
HN users will complain when a company tries to be all-consuming and unfocused then others deride them as uninspired when they are only focusing on a core business (which in this case still makes Apple endless amounts of money).

This is just some high fashion accessory they release, like a clothing company selling wallets on the side. It's not a big deal.

dmix•57m ago
The general public always mock companies who market to luxury markets, but that doesn't mean it's a bad business to be in or customers won't flock to it. This is nothing new.
julianlam•50m ago
... or wait a couple weeks and get the identical item from AliExpress for £2.20
llbeansandrice•29m ago
Goddamn I love you fuckin nerds trying to talk about this stuff.

Flag my comment, someone is already upvoted for calling this “irrational” and another for calling the buyers cucks. Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.

jacquesm•26m ago
And for sure people will buy it. I don't think there is a price point where some people would not buy it. Fashion doesn't make sense, it never has.

There is a great joke about this:

A woman rushes into Yves St. Laurent's studio.

"Oh Yves!" she cries, "you've got to help me, I'm in a panic, I have this gala coming up and I have no hat to wear"

Calmly, Yves walks to the nearest table, picks up some rolls of ribbon and starts draping them around the woman's head, and in 10 minutes flat he has made this fantastic creation.

She looks in the mirrow "Oh, Yves, you've saved me, how much do I owe you?"

He says "make it 2500 euros"

She starts yelling "2500 euros??? are you mad? for a bunch of ribbon?"

Calmly, Yves starts to unwind the ribbons spooling them up as he goes and when he's done he hands the woman the ribbons. "The ribbons, you can have for free."

pdpi•23m ago
The fashion version of the old "stick of chalk: $1. Knowing where to draw the cross: $1000" story.
NetOpWibby•20m ago
I love this
ChrisArchitect•15m ago
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45885813