New policy:
https://media.defense.gov/2025/nov/14/2003820615/-1/-1/0/CI_...
Old policy:
https://wow.uscgaux.info/Uploads_wowII/O-DEPT/CG__Harassing_...
I agree with a friend online who said this reads actually somewhat like malicious compliance from USCG (you still can't hang a swastika; they just got rid of the normative language about why).
Not really sure what's interesting about this story for HN, though.
what fucked up times do we live in when we can't even agree anymore that literal nazis are evil and people in power can force it to be "just divisive"
There was a recent youtube video by Kostantin Kisin (I can't find it now but) and I don't love that he compared Zohran Mamdani to Groypers, but his basic point was this quote or idea someone said which is that the reason history repeats itself is that we only are really influenced by the lessons of our parents and grandparents. That this rise of anti-semitism and backing down from our taboo's about racism come at a time when there are far fewer people growing up with relatives who were alive during the holocaust. (Just for good measure, the comparison between Zohran Mamdani and Groypers was that the left was forgetting the murders and human rights tragedies that came out of communism)
It is all necessary as Trump can't be the future. For it to survive, they will have to double down, and so extreme ideological idiocy will take its place.
But people still think they can wait it out. But alas, that is not how fascism works. Those concentration camps will never become vacant.
You list all those things like they're part of the same thing, but isn't Stephen Miller Jewish? It's easy to lump people together into an undifferentiated "enemy," but there's a tension there that needs some explanation. I don't think a Jewish guy could ever be an unironic neo-Nazi.
At this point, asking whether Miller is a card-carrying Nazi, or just pals around with them and espouses their beliefs, is a distinction without a difference. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
1. https://www.businessinsider.com/richard-spencer-says-he-knew...
2. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/12/trump-adviser-...
3. https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/bigoted-belief...
I think you're conflating white supremacy with Naziism. They're not the same thing. All Nazis are white supremacists, but not all white supremacists are Nazis.
The specific focus on antisemitism in that first iteration was something that worked, something that struck a chord, and something that grew with wider support from Germans at large.
In any reuse of Nazi, as in central north american post Cold War Nazi 2.0's it's the ultra nationalism and "USA culture nationalism" that again comes as a core feature. There are strongly anti jewish factions, sure, but the strong binding "fear and hatred of outsiders" is well satisfied by brown people, immigrants, Latin X non english speakers, etc.
Miller draping himself in a US flag as he unironically recreates pogroms his grandparents escaped doesn't erase his actions
As noted by others, the deportations, the smash and grab storm trooper tactics, the Us v. them attitudes and camps on US soil and off all fit the patterns of behaviour set by original OG Nazi's. This time around jewish people by descent can clearly fit in and lead pan-USAism actions.
Post Y2K USofA identity isn't the same as 1930s German identity, but ultranationism is still kill the outsider.
Why would you think that?!
I suppose it would be confusing if the only thing you ever learned about Nazis was that they didn't like Jews.
> A Jew, for obvious reasons, isn't going to be an antisemite let alone a particularly virulent one.
There have been multiple instances of Jewish Nazis:
- The father of Field Marshal Erhard Milch (2nd-highest rank in the Luftwaffe) was Jewish. Hermann Göring arranged falsified documents declaring his mother’s husband (non-Jewish) to be his "real" father. [1]
- Helmut Wilberg was a half-Jewish Luftwaffe general who was declared an "Honorary Aryan" by Hitler himself. [2]
- Back in the 1960s, a guy named Dan Burros was the 3rd-highest-ranking member of the American Nazi Party, yet went to Hebrew school and had his bar mitzvah. When the New York Times published an article about him and his background, he shot himself that same day. [3]
- Frank Collin (born Francis Cohen) was the founder of the National Socialist Party of America and led the planning of the 1977 Nazi march in Skokie, Illinois (which had a largely Jewish community). [4]. His grandparents were murdered in the Holocaust and his dad was a survivor of Dachau.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Milch
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_Wilberg
They already are doing a genocide in Gaza (hint: that's not over). What new evil are they preparing?
techblueberry•2mo ago
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throw0101c•2mo ago
The problem was that racists couldn't openly be racist and intimidate non-white members of the Coast Guard.
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2•2mo ago
Good grief.
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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2•2mo ago
I am not a religions scholar or social academic, but that sounds to me a bit counter productive.
techblueberry•2mo ago
I don’t think this is true at all. Most people are pretty ideological and think there are certain toxic ideas that need to be expunged from society. We don’t agree what those things are but ideology is a power struggle. Pure ideological libertarians are rare.
techblueberry•2mo ago
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2•2mo ago
Naturally, this is before we get to the fun parts like definition of a nazi, that a sane system would normally not focus on 'true positives', but whether it is reasonable.
Honestly, you make me smile. Do you know why? Because I know, just as you do in your heart of hearts, that if dura lex sed lex came after you, you would be trying to tell me how unfair the system is and that it should let you slip through the cracks.
Still, know that I love you; as flawed as you are.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_the_United_States
techblueberry•2mo ago
Nope. I think it’s something like a 27:1 ratio. I don’t believe in moral absolutism.
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2•2mo ago