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Apple AI Chief Retiring After Siri Failure

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/01/apple-ai-chief-retiring-after-siri-failure/
27•7777777phil•45m ago

Comments

etchalon•14m ago
How he continued to be employed is a master-class in data over experience.
gedy•10m ago
Was anything even attempted? Looking from outside, Siri is same always been, and no improvement in a decade.
Onavo•8m ago
Supposedly the main blocker for launching is because Apple would consider it reputational damage if the AI hallucinates. They have a very conservative approach when it comes to LLMs (on the other hand they are happy to scan all your photos and messages in the guise of child safety and send the data to the government and ChatControl).

Problem is, Siri is already damaging Apple's reputation with how useless it is..

pharos92•2m ago
I remember buying the iPhone 4S in 2011, and it being the first iPhone to ship with Siri. It's 2025, and Siri is still fundamentally useless.
danielheath•5m ago
Ten years ago, if it didn't understand what I meant, it told me so after 1-2 seconds.

Now, it'll show a loading indicator for 5-6 seconds and then do nothing at all... or do something entirely unrelated to my request (eg responding to "hey siri, how much is fourteen kilograms in pounds" by playing a song from my music library).

ChrisArchitect•8m ago
Source: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/12/john-giannandrea-to-r... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46114122)
ryanwhitney•5m ago
Rather have dumb Siri than bullshit machine Siri. Glad they scrapped most of it but they shouldn't have ever even launched notification summaries.
elAhmo•4m ago
Siri is probably among the products which had the most exposure to users (probably a billion+ users throughout iPhone's history) without capturing that opportunity to actually do anything meaningful with the huge user base it got for free.

A decade and a half is insane timeline in tech industry, and huge majority of users use Siri the same way today as 15 years ago, setting a timer or an alarm clock.

If they had 0 improvements over these 15 years the situation wouldn't be much different than today.

swyx•4m ago
brief career timeline:

1980s - silicon graphics / general magic

1990s - chief technologist, netscape

early 2000s - CTO Tellme (speech recognition)

late 2000s - CTO Metaweb (knowledge graph) -> acquired into Google

2010s - Google head of Machine Intelligence, Search, Gmail Smart Reply, etc, then took over Google Search and ML driven ranking (BERT)

2018 -> SVP ML/AI Apple to merge Siri/Core ML/all AI offerings under one roof

2023-2025 - led Apple Intelligence push

March 2025 - removed as head of Siri

Dec 2025 - retirement

would love to do an exit interview with him on the last 4 decades in building ai assistants!

sfblah•4m ago
Siri's awfulness really is a thing to behold. I haven't used an android phone in a while. For those users out there, does its voice assistant actually work?
LZ_Khan•1m ago
No. actually no company on earth has solved the voice assistant thing yet
mannyv•4m ago
IMO the problem is he was going for "real AI" instead of "fake it until you make it" AI.

Then LLMs came and it still wasn't "real enough."

reactordev•2m ago
But those stock options and benefits were excellent…

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