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Kohler Can Access Pictures from "End-to-End Encrypted" Toilet Camera

https://varlogsimon.leaflet.pub/3m6zrw6k2bs2p?interactionDrawer=quotes
17•TimDotC•35m ago

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codingdave•27m ago
Sounds like the crappiest data source for AI training yet.

But in all seriousness, of course they can access the data. Otherwise who else would process it to give any health results back? I don't think encryption in transit is relevant to privacy concerns because the concerns are about such data being tied to you at all, in any way. At the same time, yes, this could product valuable health information.

Their better bet would be to allow full anonymity, so even if there is a leak (yeah, the puns write themselves), there is never a connection between this data and your person.

comradesmith•16m ago
Holy fuck they actually built Smart Pipe[1]

1: https://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ?si=bSRE2lOqwwm1Q_D9

jack1243star•11m ago
I'm convinced whatever Torment Nexus we can think of will get built.
Terr_•15m ago
So basically their marketing-department is abusing a security term in order to sound good, as opposed to a software flaw.

They're claiming "end to end" encryption, which usually implies the server cannot spy on individual users that are communicating with one-another... Except here, their server is one of the "ends" doing the communicating.

kstrauser•9m ago
Did they say which ends they meant?
joezydeco•9m ago
How does one "train" an AI with a flood of random toilet pictures and no corresponding medical data to match it with?
imglorp•1m ago
"potty training". Sorry.

Anyway a chemical or biological sensor in the bowl might be more useful.

Optical could be useful if it's doing spectrographic analysis: the color of poo and urine is sometimes informative.

hackernudes•1m ago
They probably do clinical trials (or at least something like that) where they get baseline data from participants through other means.
lotrjohn•9m ago
They can encrypt data coming out of both ends?!
mystraline•6m ago
So, end-to-end-encraption?

Oh wait, maybe this is what Cory Doctorow is referring to as enshittified?

I mean, these jokes make themselves, including whoever buys the hardware, AND buys the marketing pitch.

Duanemclemore•1m ago
So they made Google TISP?

https://archive.google/tisp/index.html

crmd•1m ago
I’m sorry the shit had hit the fan at Kohler, but there’s no reason a cloud poop camera even exists.
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