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The US polluters that are rewriting the EU's human rights and climate law

https://www.somo.nl/the-secretive-cabal-of-us-polluters-that-is-rewriting-the-eus-human-rights-and-climate-law/
93•saubeidl•49m ago

Comments

impossiblefork•12m ago
People like to hold up Macron as being a good politician on the EU level, but from this it seems he has to go and is in the same league as the more obvious harmful Merz.
mono442•12m ago
These directives are mostly useless bureaucracy. I don't think anything of value has been lost.

My experience with European Union is that the EU politicians mostly live in a ivory tower and spend their days producing garbage laws and aren't actually addressing anything important.

stavros•8m ago
Yeah no, the GDPR and DMA are definitely toothless bureaucracy from out-of-touch politicians.

Get out of here.

dataflow•7m ago
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piva00•6m ago
Nothing important like digital rights, environmental issues (pesticides, nitrogen levels), harmonising trading so every member-state can compete as equals through the whole EU/EEA market.

Only useless bureaucracy which you don't give any examples of.

bilekas•3m ago
> My experience with European Union is that the EU politicians mostly live in a ivory tower and spend their days producing garbage laws and aren't actually addressing anything important

Regulations are the unsexy laws that don't make the news because the specifically PREVENT things like water pollution, food and drug safety, employment rights.

Lets see how the US companies will act in the best interests of the public without regulation. Then come back and say its useless bureaucracy to ban lead in water, or allow chcemical dumping into rivers and lakes.

deaux•12m ago
> Leaked documents 1 obtained by SOMO reveal how, under the pretext of the now-near-magical concept of ‘competitiveness’, these companies plotted to hijack democratically adopted EU laws and strip them of all meaningful provisions, including those on climate transition plans, civil liability, and the scope of supply chains. EU officials appear not to have known who they were up against.

I'm seeing the exact same narrative more and more right here on HN, in every thread in any way related to the EU - the idea that the likes of GDPR are destroying "competitiveness". That if only all of it would be axed, "competitiveness" would arise once more.

It's not a coincidence, especially with so much FAANG employees, either ex- or current, who spend even more on lobbying than the likes of Exxon highlighted in this article. Though it seems naive to blindly hope that even in the age of mass astroturfing, this place is somehow immune.

It's frightening just how similar the playbook and the players involved are, big oil and big tech being oh so alike.

RGamma•8m ago
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jack_tripper•8m ago
Well, all lobbying basically circumvents sovereign democracy, there's nothing out of the ordinary I found out in this article other than business as usual.
bojan•4m ago
This _is_ democracy. Europeans don't vote left and green.
paganel•8m ago
Hopefully this will bring back some sort of competitiveness for the EU industry, and hence for EU society as a whole, but I have very big doubts about it. Back to becoming a real-life gigantic tourist park that is, then.
Havoc•5m ago
It’s a pretty sad world of being competitive equates to pollution
inglor_cz•7m ago
The EU green laws will have to be rewritten anyway. They are not of this world.

In the next tab, I am reading (in Czech) an article titled "Shall we produce tanks out of wood?" which addresses the fact that pushing all steel production out of Europe through unrealistic pollution demands and other regulations cannot be squared with maintaining any ability to defend ourselves.

(Link for the interested people: https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/ekonomika-byznys-rozhovor...)

bojan•6m ago
This is, unfortunately, what Europeans collectivelly voted for.

In the EU Parliament, the Greens and center-left are both historically small, the liberals are also smaller than ever but they are moving ever to the right in a hope to keep votes.

Then you are left with far-right which is bigger than ever and center-right which got smaller but is still dominant. Both of these don't really care much for human rights and climate law.

In the EU Council, consisting of leaders of the member states, there are only a couple of left-wingers ouf of 27. The rest is (center-)right. Zero greens.

raverbashing•3m ago
Yeah I wonder why was that

The article seems to be written by the same people who threw a fit about plastic straws while the big polluters continue to ngaf