”The end of credits hit many EV rivals harder. Overall U.S. EV sales fell more than 41% in November and Tesla's market share rose to 56.7% from 43.1%, the data showed.”
So EV sales are down, less so for Tesla than other makers, but someone needed a catchy headline? I mean, I have absolutely no love for Tesla, but am I wrong in thinking that this is a little click-baity?
browningstreet•51m ago
The article isn’t focused on Tesla’s market share, it’s focused on the mix of standard and premium product offerings they’ve rolled out lately and the effect that has had on absolute unit sales (and margins).
As it is they still can’t sell as many cars as they used to, which stands in contrast to Elon’s pay package.
Given that, the title seems accurate to me.
FireBeyond•38m ago
This number makes no sense. In the space of one month Tesla's market share increased by over 30%? On overall declining sales, including for Tesla?
Nothing about that makes sense.
> According to an Experian Automotive report on electric vehicles, out of the 292.3 million cars and trucks on the road in the U.S. in 2024, approximately 4,092,200 (1.4%) of those were electric cars.
So 43% would be 1.76M. Going to 57% would be 2.33M, i.e. nearly 600K sales. Except:
> Demand for Standard versions was expected to support sales in November, but the company's total sales fell nearly 23% to 39,800 vehicles from 51,513 a year earlier and were the lowest since January 2022, according to the data from Cox, which tracks sales across the industry.
Whatever "math" is happening in this article is fundamentally broken.
Unless they mean "the market sale of EVs in November", in which case 39,800 of 70,000 is Tesla, up from... 31,000?
So Tesla's monthly sales drops to a 4 year low, down 23%, but somehow 8,800 vehicles is enough to increase market share by 30%+? I have no idea what mashup of numbers is happening here.
breve•10m ago
> Whatever "math" is happening in this article is fundamentally broken.
No. They're talking about sales and market share in November.
The short version is Tesla is selling fewer cars these days.
m463•55m ago
> the rest of its lineup is older models with minor refreshes.
minor refreshes = removing critical controls like turn signal and drive select stalks.
Who would want to go from several dedicated tactile controls in model s/x to no stalks and few controls?
square_usual•34m ago
I'm very happy with the new design. I miss the buttons when I drive a car with stalks.
frogperson•5m ago
I'm still shocked they have any sales at all. You couldn't pay me to drive around in one of Musk's Hitler-mobiles. There is no way I would pay money for one of his cars or support him in any way.
mikestew•59m ago
”The end of credits hit many EV rivals harder. Overall U.S. EV sales fell more than 41% in November and Tesla's market share rose to 56.7% from 43.1%, the data showed.”
So EV sales are down, less so for Tesla than other makers, but someone needed a catchy headline? I mean, I have absolutely no love for Tesla, but am I wrong in thinking that this is a little click-baity?
browningstreet•51m ago
As it is they still can’t sell as many cars as they used to, which stands in contrast to Elon’s pay package.
Given that, the title seems accurate to me.
FireBeyond•38m ago
Nothing about that makes sense.
> According to an Experian Automotive report on electric vehicles, out of the 292.3 million cars and trucks on the road in the U.S. in 2024, approximately 4,092,200 (1.4%) of those were electric cars.
So 43% would be 1.76M. Going to 57% would be 2.33M, i.e. nearly 600K sales. Except:
> Demand for Standard versions was expected to support sales in November, but the company's total sales fell nearly 23% to 39,800 vehicles from 51,513 a year earlier and were the lowest since January 2022, according to the data from Cox, which tracks sales across the industry.
Whatever "math" is happening in this article is fundamentally broken.
Unless they mean "the market sale of EVs in November", in which case 39,800 of 70,000 is Tesla, up from... 31,000?
So Tesla's monthly sales drops to a 4 year low, down 23%, but somehow 8,800 vehicles is enough to increase market share by 30%+? I have no idea what mashup of numbers is happening here.
breve•10m ago
No. They're talking about sales and market share in November.
The short version is Tesla is selling fewer cars these days.