It is, though. The premises of white nationalism, like any form of fascism, require an "out-group," and at the same time a mechanism for convincing the "in-group" that hating them is morally acceptable. The framing of empathy as a vice does that job. It is literally part of their stochastic terrorism strategy. That's why they're so "anti-woke", despite not ever (literally not once) defining what "woke" is. They don't care what it is, or what their constituents think it means. They only care that there is buy-in on the idea that caring for others and being sensitive to their needs is bad. Because that is the prerequisite of the rest of their plans.

"Please try to be empathetic and look the other way as your civilization is being raped and murdered into oblivion. Die kindly."

You... you think this sentiment is *not* representative of white nationalism? Really? Can you maybe fill in the blanks here? Who is doing the "raping"? Why is "Western civilization" purportedly coming to an end?

And when DHH says something like: "In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now." Could you perhaps explain to me what he might mean by "native Brit"?

You know what, I actually don't believe for a second that you're being honest here. You know exactly what this is but you don't want other people to name it. But that's OK: we'll name it for you. Feel free to wear it around your neck.

Even if it is, it's not exactly a head scratcher how things end up like this.

The Jews have their Israeli ethno-state. In Liberia for instance, citizenship is limited to blacks. Armenia has special citizenship progression for Armenians for instance. China is incredibly difficult to be a citizen unless you are ethnic Chinese. Most (arab) gulf states are ethno-states, muslims have countries like Afghanistan where pretty much any Muslim could settle and live in Shariah law.

Musk basically left south Africa around the time segregation ended. There is massive demand for white nationalist state as Western nations open themselves to multi-culturalism and there is basically no 'refuge' left for white nationalists unless you are Serbian or something.

The fact that ethno-states probably aren't defensible doesn't negate the fact white supremacists exist en masse and have demand for something that no longer exists, looking at examples of everyone else getting it, and scheming how they can get it for themselves. The only question is where they will end up focusing their collective energy.

The parent comment, and the series of messages they linked to, are such peak "terminally online" content that I suspect nothing one can write here can help.

The paranoia and distrust is so intense that every statement will be seen as a coded phrase, "dog whistle" or obscure reference to some sinister thing.

Which is particularly unfortunate, because I think Elon's tweet is genuinely wrong and bad. But it kinda feels like these people need to disconnect from the internet and go for a walk. Maybe have a real life conversation with a real life regular person on the other side of the political aisle.

> especially since there is a collection of powerful companies (Palantir, Anduril, SpaceX, etc) that are being embedded into the government and into defense by the Trump administration.

Note this was all happening — and obvious — well before Kirk’s death; there’s been no shift, Musk and Thiel have been working on this, and not hiding it, since the start.

I'm aghast at our industry but have faith in open source, free software, and other community movements. Maybe it's time for me to shift my attention entirely in that direction.

Whole industry? Just those that don’t mind enabling some rich bigots.