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Japan to revise romanization rules for first time in 70 years

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/08/21/japan/panel-hepburn-style-romanization/
13•rgovostes•3h ago

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rfarley04•3h ago
I live in Thailand and I cannot get over the fact that romanization is (seemingly?) completely unstandardized. Even government signage uses different English spelling of Thai words.
Theofrastus•3h ago
I'm honestly surprised Hepburn wasn't the official standard yet. It sounds way closer to the spoken sounds, at least to my western ears.

> The council’s recommendation also adopts Hepburn spellings for し, じ and つ as shi, ji, and tsu, compared to the Kunrei spellings of si, zi and tu.

I could imagine si, zi and tu sound closer to the spoken sounds to Mandarin speakers.

wyan•2h ago
Not closer to the spoken sounds, closer to English orthography.
Theofrastus•2h ago
Native German speaker here. It fits very well here, too
mono442•16m ago
It works better with other European languages' orthography too.
mytailorisrich•2h ago
I don't know the details history of the system's development, however I notice that with Kunrei everything spelling is neatly 2 characters while with Hepburn it may be 2 or 3 characters:

Kunrei: ki si ti ni hi mi

Hepburn: ki shi chi ni hi mi

The politics of the issue is obviously that Hepburn is older and an American system while Nihon and Kunrei are very purposely domestic (Nihon "is much more regular than Hepburn romanization, and unlike Hepburn's system, it makes no effort to make itself easier to pronounce for English-speakers" [1]). Apparently, Hepburn was later imposed by US occupying forces in 1945.

Perhaps 80 years is long enough and suitable to effect the change officially with no loss of face.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon-shiki

Theofrastus•2h ago
The political aspect might be a big part of why and how the systems are chosen. Didn't know about that!

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