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California judge rules that Tesla engaged in deceptive marketing for Autopilot

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/16/california-judge-says-tesla-engaged-in-deceptive-autopilot-marketing-.html
34•elsewhen•3h ago

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johng•2h ago
Long overdue, IMO.
windexh8er•47m ago
And they'll keep paying the premium. I haven't looked at the Tesla website since Musk turned the corner, but is anyone actually paying this charlatan $8k for "Full Self-Driving (Supervised)"? After years of empty lies how is anyone still sucker enough?

And then... "Currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous. The activation and use of these features are dependent on development and regulatory approval, which may take longer in some jurisdictions."

I can't believe they aren't forced to say that this may never happen, which is the reality given the history of it.

BugsJustFindMe•2h ago
I'm annoyed by the stay, but I'm more annoyed that the desired penalty is just a 30 day suspension. No fine, no refunds for sales made under false pretenses.
millzlane•1h ago
I honestly don't want to make this political and I'm not a libertarian. But this reminds me of something a libertarian once said. That courts would find companies liable for their crimes and someone would go to jail.

My question: Why isn't someone going to jail, when they have clearly broken a law?

dragonwriter•1h ago
> My question: Why isn't someone going to jail, when they have clearly broken a law?

Because the law in question is civil, not criminal, and because the violation was found by an executive branch administrative law judge, not by a court of general jurisdiction in even a civil lawsuit.

ursAxZA•13m ago
Honestly, the slowest actor here was the regulator. If the name “Full Self-Driving” was unacceptable, they could have stopped it years ago.

“Autopilot” is already a technical aviation term — planes don’t fly themselves while the pilot sleeps — so the misunderstanding comes from the public, not the term.

And without a legal framework defining responsibility for autonomous systems, the liability naturally falls back to the human who activates the feature.

So the root issue isn’t the marketing; it’s the regulatory vacuum that let the ambiguity persist.

(Just my impression as a non-expert observer.)

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