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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-legacy-ryzen-7-5800x3d-chips-now-sell-for-up-to-usd800-more-than-a-new-9800x3d-am4-chip-costs-twice-as-much-as-msrp-as-enthusiasts-flock-to-old-ddr4-memory
21•walterbell•1h ago

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throwaway613745•44m ago
oh ffs, I was just thinking about upgrading my current PC with a new GPU and CPU and just keeping the same 64gb of AM4 DDR4 I already have. But now even the prices for the CPUs are skyrocketting? Eff everything about this and curse Sam Altman.
AdrianB1•40m ago
Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3D scalping?
tylerflick•35m ago
> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter

It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.

kevin_thibedeau•24m ago
This is where the 5700X shines. 8 cores, still cool.
wtallis•4m ago
The 5700X has the same 8 cores as a 5800X3D but with a slightly higher maximum clock speed (the X3D CPUs tend to have lower maximum voltages because the extra cache die doesn't tolerate voltages as high as the CPU cores do). The only reason the 5700X is running cooler for you is because it comes with a 65W "TDP" setting out of the box rather than the 105W "TDP" setting used by the 5800X3D. If you configure a 5800X3D to operate at the same power limit, it'll give you generally better performance than a 5700X.

In general, buying a power-limited desktop CPU has never been a good strategy to get better efficiency. You can always configure the full-power chip to only use that extra headroom for short bursts, and to throttle down to what you consider acceptable for sustained workloads.

letmetweakit•4m ago
And the 7900 ! (AM5 though)
zten•19m ago
The Ryzen CPUs seem to be designed to spike as high as whatever thermal limit you configure with Precision Boost Overdrive.
tetraodonpuffer•33m ago
5800x3d / 5700x3d are MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than non-x3d in some games that are CPU bound (for some even 2x / 3x faster than non-x3d) so even with a "slower" GPU it can still be a large upgrade
alecco•9m ago
Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.
ls612•4m ago
Even like 2016 vintage boards were PCI3 4.0 so I don’t think this is a huge issue?
PeterStuer•6m ago
BS. A used (not available new) 5800X3D is 350€, while a new 9800X3D is around 460€.

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