I've invented this heuristic: if the page that describes the project uses the word "solutions", then they'll attempt to use "open source" to obtain free labour, but will distribute the revenues only amongst those people who actually have control.
I really don't get what you're implying. I don't see any problem with the photos on the mattermost front page.
It's "open source" so that they save on developer costs, not for ideological reasons, and you can tell from the photos on their front page - that's what I was implying.
Think "enterprise", rather than "racism".
I think the point was that open source hasn't often been supported by companies serving these kinds of markets and the interests of the broader community are often sidelined.
> A new compiled version is released under an MIT license every month on the 16th.
What does than even mean? Is it equivalent to what we use to call "freeware". Is it legal to modify the binaries?
The FSF calls it a "free license" [1] and I don't think they would if they didn't make the source code available.
Source code available is necessary but not sufficient for Free software, see [2]
> Freedoms 1 and 3 require source code to be available because studying and modifying software without its source code can range from highly impractical to nearly impossible.
[1] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#Expat
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
EDIT Oh sorry, you mean for the LICENSE to be available. Never mind then.
Not really? FOSS communities overestimate their importance on a daily basis.
Case in point: Linux. 90%+ of commits were corporate sponsored… in 2004. The pure community member does almost nothing of importance for Linux anymore; or any of these projects.
Zulip (for Slack) and Wekan (for Trello) are good replacements, save yourself the ethical and technical worries.
Edit: sorry, hotheaded reply. I assume you mean that the creator of mIRC was encouraging it (though it's not mentioned anywhere). I still.stand by my analogy, but I see your point given your assumption.
Like most licensed software, it was likely licensed by “US Government” or “Department of Defense”. Plus, it was openly written about back in the day. It was well known. No clauses in their licensing to prevent its use for those purposes.
Comparing to Mattermost and amplifying the original comment, Mattermost website is openly associating with PlatformOne.
Crucially, it's end to end encrypted.
You can self-host it, or pay for having it hosted (or use the hosted free tier).
Has other things in addition to kanban.
I got a 1 yr account.
and still no one from that company has admitted to it being a mistake?
very nice
If they want to do that then, as every corporate "open source", they are free to do so but why not communicate that at least in the release post?
Any potential free user who would consider going paid will now be starting off their relationship negatively.
Really weird strategy.
diff --git a/server/channels/app/limits.go b/server/channels/app/limits.go
index b13103898a..a8be8dd908 100644
--- a/server/channels/app/limits.go
+++ b/server/channels/app/limits.go
@@ -36,17 +36,6 @@ func (a *App) GetServerLimits() (*model.ServerLimits, *model.AppError) {
limits.MaxUsersHardLimit = licenseUserLimit + int64(extraUsers)
}
- // Check if license has post history limits and get the calculated timestamp
- if license != nil && license.Limits != nil && license.Limits.PostHistory > 0 {
- limits.PostHistoryLimit = license.Limits.PostHistory
- // Get the calculated timestamp of the last accessible post
- lastAccessibleTime, appErr := a.GetLastAccessiblePostTime()
- if appErr != nil {
- return nil, appErr
- }
- limits.LastAccessiblePostTime = lastAccessibleTime
- }
-
activeUserCount, appErr := a.Srv().Store().User().Count(model.UserCountOptions{})
if appErr != nil {
return nil, model.NewAppError("GetServerLimits", "app.limits.get_app_limits.user_count.store_error", nil, "", http.StatusInternalServerError).Wrap(appErr)https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost/issues/34271#issuec...
Also one of the comments:
> Would be a shame if someone with too much time on their hands dug into the binary and added a few zeroes to the message limit
Can this be done via some binary-patch tool? Really curious. It would save recompile efforts.
At first they tried to say that "we're a school" and then when the MM rep said they have an Education license, they admitted that they are not actually a school, but rather a consulting company that is gouging schools by overcharging for open source software.
It's about rug pulling your users and cutting them off at the knees. I don't use mattermost but read the github thread in it's entirety.
Enshitification ensues.
bramhaag•1h ago
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Y_Y•1h ago
Wanting to use Mattermost's binaries rather than building from source?
Re licensing see: https://isitreallyfoss.com/projects/mattermost/
LudwigNagasena•1h ago
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J-Kuhn•1h ago
The source code is... AGPL licensed? But not the admin tools. They seem to be licensed under the Apache License 2.0.
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Yeah, good luck. Contact your lawyer.
bfkwlfkjf•1h ago
true_religion•1h ago
ekjhgkejhgk•18m ago
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html
csomar•58m ago
Now couple that with the fact that supply-chain control is profitable (legally or illegally); I think the next 5-10 years will be interesting.
mort96•56m ago
The open source community really needs to stop with the "just fork it" mindset.
derefr•54m ago
I think the implication is that some other interested org could very easily step in and assume the role that the Mattermost org was in, and everyone would very eagerly switch and leave Mattermost itself speaking to an empty room.
whatevaa•14m ago
integralid•47m ago
The open source community really needs to stop with the "just do everything i want for free" mindset.
I mean, open source does not mean you're entitled to free support, and free in free software is not about money. I think people depend too much on those projects and then act entitled.
Of course the open source bait and switch done by companies is a shitty behavior worth calling out, but the companies exist to earn money and at this point this can be expected.
mort96•5m ago
I do think this development represents a bait and switch though.