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Fathers’ choices may be packaged and passed down in sperm RNA

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-dads-fitness-may-be-packaged-and-passed-down-in-sperm-rna-20251222/
57•vismit2000•2h ago

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turtleyacht•1h ago
Curious if in vitro fertilization (IVF) could consider RNA impact when evaluating fitness.

Current criteria appear to be motility, morphology, and DNA attributes (fragmentation & integrity) [1], all mostly visual or physical assessments.

[1] https://vidafertility.com/en/best-sperm-selection/

zerofor_conduct•1h ago
Lamarck has entered the chat
echelon•35m ago
I see you being downvoted, but it's a good quip.

Lamarckian vs. Mendelian genetics was about heritable traits being acquired in life (Lamarck), or being discrete units passed down at conception (Mendel).

Genetics is almost entirely Mendelian, but some of epigenetics is durable and thus Lamarckian.

There's also retroviral integrations, transposons, and all sorts of other complexities that don't fit neatly into boxes.

yieldcrv•53m ago
> “It’s still very hand-wavy,” said the epigeneticist Colin Conine (opens a new tab) of the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia

okay, I trust this article and source more

where can I keep up with this in more mainstream but technical publications

biophysboy•23m ago
I would recommend keeping tabs on authors rather than periodically checking specific publications.
flexagoon•21m ago
> okay, I trust this article and source more

Quanta Magazine is great! They have a cool YouTube channel as well

bethekidyouwant•27m ago
Exercise and take nicotine. My kids have a leg up it seems.
websiteapi•26m ago
assuming this is true, perhaps it's best to freeze sperm regularly with labels that way if you go off the deep end you can snapshot quite literally your best self? some possible times - right before college, right after college, after you meet someone you think you'd marry (but before you do), after marriage.

seems like a neat premise for sci fi novella

xeromal•19m ago
Makes me wonder if that's some of the influence that different siblings get? The first born gets more ambition, the middle child chills, and the baby acts like a boomer.

jk.

Honestly, sounds like a great read!

ralusek•11m ago
If my quicksave/quickload savescumming is to be observed, I’d be pining for that sperm from before I told the waitress “you too” wrt to her telling me to enjoy my meal.
EPWN3D•10m ago
That'd be a great basis for a controlled experiment.
harshreality•22m ago
Someone who works out every day will obviously have different metabolic and microRNA profiles; assuming that line of research holds up and those biomolecular profiles make it into the zygote, survive many replication cycles, and act as developmental signalling molecules affecting gene expression during embryonic and fetal development, there could be life-long effects.

What can't happen is inter-generational transmission of particular subjective experiences that aren't pared with specific, unique metabolic, hormonal, and gene-expression signatures. Only biomolecular-mediated phenotypes, the most general and obvious of which would be things like stress or exercise or diet, make sense to be transmitted that way.

For instance, someone who's chronically afraid might transmit some kind of stress/fear modulating signals to offspring. Someone who's afraid of a specific thing, however, cannot transmit fear of that specific thing unless there's some incredible and unexplored cognition-to-biomolecular signalling mechanism that's entirely unexplored and undescribed. Therefore, I don't know why the article uses the term "lived experience", which is too broad a term to describe what the research suggests might be occurring.

yearolinuxdsktp•14m ago
We know that severe stress (such as trauma) leaves chemical marks on the genes, potentially passed down to the offspring. For example, this paper writes about an “accumulating amount of evidence of an enduring effect of trauma exposure to be passed to offspring transgenerationally: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5977074/

If that’s not “lived experience,” then I don’t know what is.

diab0lic•6m ago
The comment you’re replying to suggests “lived experience” is too broad, not too narrow. The issue isn’t that it fails to include your example. It fails to exclude other things.
diego_moita•20m ago
This reminds me of the transgenerational trauma on the descendants of the Dutch Hongerwinter of 1944-45. Generations after, people carry in their epigenics the effects of that tragedy:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_anxiety_and_str...

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